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Old 07-04-2010, 12:07 PM
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I did not read pages 6-15 or so.

My pump just went out.

Is the pump the same even for an 2006 8.1L engine?

I will have it apart in the next day or two, and will know for sure then. But it would be nice to know now if the replacement is the same to pop the new one back in.
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:56 PM
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Help withh a part number?

I have a 2001 X-star and need to replace the pump. The NAPA E2065 / Advance E2044 / Delco EP356 part is close, but are all a little smaller than the one I pulled out and won't work for my application. The label on the "Big Daddy" Carter module shows: 71-299S, 23 K00, CGB 98-002. The actual fuel pump itself shows 2290A 291. Photos attached. Can anyone help me by providing a part number that will work?
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:20 PM
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I have a 2001 X-star and need to replace the pump. The NAPA E2065 / Advance E2044 / Delco EP356 part is close, but are all a little smaller than the one I pulled out and won't work for my application. The label on the "Big Daddy" Carter module shows: 71-299S, 23 K00, CGB 98-002. The actual fuel pump itself shows 2290A 291. Photos attached. Can anyone help me by providing a part number that will work?
The point of this thread is that Carter makes the pumps exclusively for Mastercraft and are very tight lipped about what aftermarket part number will interchange. So no one is going to be able to tell you, and it seems like these guys have tried for sure. I would try one of the recommended pumps and you will find they work fine. As long as the pressure and GPM specs are in line, then you should be fine. I actually used a Bosch pump that cross references with the EP356. Modern technology for sure...it also fits a 1985 Cutlass Supreme, IIRC. I have about 5 hours on the boat so far, and it seems fine.
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Old 07-07-2010, 07:57 PM
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TallRedRider,

Thanks for getting back so quickly. I guess I was unclear, so I'll try harder: The Airtex E2065 and E2044 are both shorter than the one I pulled out of my boat (description and picture in my last post). I suppose it's possible to modify the carrier to keep it in place, but I'm hoping that someone here can give me a DIFFERENT part number that will be closer in size to my original pump.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:29 AM
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Interesting. My fuel pump in a 04 xstar went out while at the lake this past weekend. Long story short, went to NAPA and found one the same length and diameter (use 65psi I believe). Line was kinked, so I did a quick fix at the local marine garage at the lake. Used "regular" fuel line 5/16 and put two screw down clamps on it and it ran fine. This was a temporary fix.

Now for a couple of questions: Is this pump adequate ( enough or not enough pressure, etc). What harm occurs if not?

Fuel line: I know I need submersible line. How long does this "regular" fuel line typically work in a submersed environment? Why can't I use 5/16 line and put to regular screw down clamps on either end?
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Old 08-13-2010, 10:42 AM
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:55 PM
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TallRedRider,

Thanks for getting back so quickly. I guess I was unclear, so I'll try harder: The Airtex E2065 and E2044 are both shorter than the one I pulled out of my boat (description and picture in my last post). I suppose it's possible to modify the carrier to keep it in place, but I'm hoping that someone here can give me a DIFFERENT part number that will be closer in size to my original pump.
I know it has been a month now, but I should note that the paperwork that came with my Bosch pump specifically stated that they know that the pump might not be the exact size of the pump it replaced but assured that it would still work...and of course they said theirs was of the highest quality.

So I am not worked up at all over the pumps being slightly different size.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:56 PM
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help. see post 185
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:26 PM
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Regarding aftermarket submersible hose (30R10), as we all have discovered, 5/16" is what's readily available. The problem is the 1/4 barb at the regulator. I believe this could be handled in a couple of ways. One might try 1/4" Viton heat shrink tube over the barb (yea, not only a fire danger, but risk of melting your plastic barb if you are not careful) followed by as many sucessive layers of 5/16" Viton shrink tube until you end up with a Viton covered barb measuring 5/16" OD. Or, perhaps, just buy 1/4" ID x 5/16" OD Viton hose. Slip a piece of that over the barb then install the 5/16" 30R10 over that (appropriately clamped with a fuel injection clamp). Unfortunately the only hose meeting that spec that I've found in a short search comes in 25' lengths for $70+. Here's some for your viewing: http://www.amazon.com/Viton-tubing-I...1726906&sr=8-6

Viton has excellent ratings when it comes to chemical and fuel resistance. Just a thought.

I suspect someone, somewhere, sells it by the foot, but no time to search right now.

Dan, regular fuel line will fail. Clamping 5/16" line on a 1/4" barb may leak.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:34 PM
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thks deminimis.
Sounds like a new unit.
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