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Old 11-06-2017, 10:12 PM
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Poor Paul got his arse kicked.. I hope it wasn't because of his views... but alas I am sure it will be.... by none other than a total looser... sigh.. I hope he sues him to the poor house..
Maybe the Dandelions in the yard were finally too much for the anesthesiologist neighbor. In either case, time for Rand to use that gold-level Obamacare policy.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:03 PM
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:09 PM
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^Hard to watch Napolitano with all the hype and rock music schtick, but in that clip (post #2389, wow) he actually summarized the legal jeopardy for POTUS in a balanced way.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:19 PM
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Napolitano is one of 5 people in the media/political realm that I actually trust what they say. He is fantastic.

Hey, his 'Chambers' has to have some production quality!
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:21 AM
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Maybe the Dandelions in the yard were finally too much for the anesthesiologist neighbor. In either case, time for Rand to use that gold-level Obamacare policy.
the government law writers... all Democrats that wrote ocare.. wrote themselves out of it.. so what does that tell you?
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the government law writers... all Democrats that wrote ocare.. wrote themselves out of it.. so what does that tell you?
not sure what you mean by wrote themselves out of it.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:36 PM
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not sure what you mean by wrote themselves out of it.
Members of congress get their own health insurance plan while the rest of us peasants get the expensive scraps, i.e. obummer-care.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:37 PM
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What if Government Steals Liberty and Fails to Deliver Safety?
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What if the government doesn't really deliver for us? What if its failures to protect our lives, liberties and property are glaring? What if nothing changes after these failures?

What if the National Security Agency — the federal government's domestic spying apparatus — has convinced Congress that it needs to cut constitutional corners in order to spy on as many people in America as possible? What if Congress has bought that argument and passed a statute that put a secret court between the NSA and its appetite for all electronically transmitted data in America? What if that secret court — called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court — is supposed to protect personal liberty but instead has become a wall behind which the NSA hides?

What if the Constitution only permits warrants for searches and seizures that are based on probable cause of crime? What if the Constitution requires that all warrants for searches and seizures specifically describe the place to be searched or the person or thing to be seized? What if the courts have ruled that electronic surveillance constitutes a search and seizure within the meaning of the Constitution?

What if the FISC issues warrants based on a lesser standard than probable cause of crime? What if its standard is probable cause of speaking with or knowing someone who has spoken with a foreign person? What if this is such an absurd and loose standard that it violates the Constitution and ends up protecting no one except the spies who pretend to employ it?

What if the FISC is a facade? What if the NSA spies on all people all the time while hiding behind FISC-issued warrants? What if the stated purpose of spying on everyone all the time is to keep us safe from terrorist acts by trading liberty for security? What if that trade has never worked?

What if the NSA has convinced President Donald Trump and his immediate two predecessors that it needs to spy on everyone in America to keep us safe, no matter what the Constitution says? What if those three presidents have bought that argument?

What if NSA spying is really done without any warrants? What if this spying captures in real time every keystroke on every computer and hand-held device — as well as the content of every email, text message, telephone call and fiber-optic cable transmission — in the United States 24/7?

What if NSA computers have direct and unimpeded access to all mainframe computers of all telecoms and computer service providers in the U.S.? What if the acquisition of all this data is known in the intelligence community as bulk surveillance?

What if the Constitution is the supreme law of the land? What if the Constitution, with its requirement of warrants based on probable cause and specifically identifying targets, expressly prohibits bulk surveillance? What if bulk surveillance is not only unconstitutional but also useless because it produces information overload — too much data to sift through in a timely manner?

What if President Trump and his immediate two predecessors have unleashed the NSA to acquire all communications data about everyone in America even though it's obvious that the NSA cannot possibly sift through it all in a timely enough manner to keep us safe?

What if the Islamic State-inspired extremist who drove a rental truck on a New York City bicycle and pedestrian path and killed eight people last week did a dry run of his killing plans the week before? What if one of his own cellphones recorded portions of the dry run? What if the NSA had that recording but did not notice it until after the attack?

What if the same killer who drove the rental truck stored 90 video clips of other Islamic State-inspired killings on a cellphone? What if the NSA had those videos but did not notice them until after the attack?

What if the same killer who drove that rental truck also stored nearly 4,000 photos of Islamic State atrocities on a cellphone and the NSA, which has had the repellant photos since the killer first stored them, did not notice them until after the attack?

What if liberty is our birthright and cannot be taken away by government without a jury trial? What if the NSA's allies in government wrongly and foolishly think that the surrender of privacy to America's 60,000 domestic spies somehow keeps us safe?

What if the genius of the Constitution — if followed — is not only its protection of privacy but also its requirement that the government focus its searches and seizures on people who it has reason to suspect are engaged in criminal activity and about whom judges have ratified the evidence to support those suspicions? What if the Constitution requires the government to leave the rest of us alone?

What if the government stinks at keeping us safe but is very good at invading our privacy?

What if this bulk surveillance is about power and control and not about safety? What if the NSA has selectively leaked what it knows about some folks for political purposes? What if President Trump himself and his former national security adviser have been victims of those leaks?

What if the use of intelligence data for political purposes and not for safety is a profound danger to democracy? What if government can't keep us safe? What if we falsely think that it does keep us safe? What if that delusion makes us less safe? What if government's bulk acquisition of private data makes us less free? What if government works not for us but for itself? What do we do about it?
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:52 PM
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