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Old 06-12-2013, 02:50 PM
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Around the same. I ride usually very small crew. 3 people max.

750's rear, 350 or so in custom locker sac. Integrated bow sac 350ish , 450 in the walkway up front and around 200lbs pop products up front and another 200 under the rear observer bench on the passenger side to offset the weight of the torque on the prop.

I am at 80ft 24.5mph

I was running all pop products in the nose for a long time til I picked up the ski again. I found using the pop bags I needed less weight because I was able to concentrate the lead as far forward as possible. I was able to get away with 500 lbs of pop bags but 500lbs of water in the walkway won't cut it
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:11 PM
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Keep in mind with the weight most of us are running this I the high end of wake. Speed also is a huge factor. With the 750's full and the rest you need to be at the 24mph mark to get it cleaned up.

Yourself being a beginner rider at 17mph the factory should be plenty. However if you want to up it here is what I would do.

Rip out your tanks. Use 500lb bags on each side of engine. Run you locker sac and add a 500- 700 lb bag to the nose. You have to consider what speed you like and how much u plan on progressing. At 21-23 mph that 500 bag scenario is optimal at 65-70 ft. That will get 75% if not more of anyone a mackin wake. The rest of weight we all have chimed in on is really an advanced setup.

If you plan in surfing or progressing to top level tricks. Opt for the 750 bags right away and just fill them to your liking. It makes it hard to get exactly the same fill every single time so that's the only downfall without maxing them out, but it gives you room to grow.

For now tho try upping you speed a bit and letting rope out to 60ft at around 20 mph. Riding at 17 and that short of a rope is little tough if you are consistently clearing the wake.
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Old 06-12-2013, 05:22 PM
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you'd have a hard time get'n a 100lb person riding correctly on a wakeboard only go'n 17 mph
if you're 150lbs or more you need to increase your speed to 22-23 mph and line length of 60+ ft
and at 17mph your wake is too soft the higher speeds will give your wake some firmness. As you add weight to the boat you'll increase your speed and increase the line length
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:00 AM
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Sounds like great advice guys. I don't mind spending money, but I'd rather be content with what I have until I get more advanced. That said I think I'll do what swatguy suggested, try to extend the rope out to 60ft, and speed up to around 20mph. I'll be on the lake this weekend! Its the first week of hot in Arkansas. The high all year has been about 82, but it gotten up to 97 this week. Time to cool off!
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:44 PM
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I run 750s in the back, 300 in ski locker, and a 750 in the walkway. 23 at 75'. I really need more weight up front. So go with what CaryK and JRW said and get the 1100 sac for the bow. You can always fill everything halfway if you don't want a huge wake, but you will eventually want it big. Might as well do it right.
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:58 PM
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I am currently at 21.5mph and 60ft with the 400# FlyHigh's in the back and a 370# KGB.
I am about to replace my 400# sacks in the back with the 750#. Then I will put one of the 400# sacks in the walk way between the driver and observer. Then if more is needed in the front I will set it across the top of the one in the walk way. I will also be riding at 23mph and 70ft because that is where I was behind my buddies AXIS at the end of the season.
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Old 12-26-2013, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by turbozinke View Post
Wow you guys are going a lot faster than I thought! We've been going 17mph at about 50'
Everyone has great suggestions here on the speed and weight. The reason for the faster speed and longer rope is bc when you add weight, you need more speed to clear the wider wake. It would be difficult for me to even clear my wake at 17mph bc I couldn't get enough speed. If you are going by your boat speedo, double check it with a GPS to make sure it is what you think it is. 1-2mph will make a pretty big difference when it comes to wakeboarding. Ease your way into it and post some videos and/or pics.
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:54 AM
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What have you guys found works well for a good walkway sac?
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Old 12-28-2013, 12:07 AM
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Bud we need the triangle sac for the bow. Lol. But it doesnt get much better than this
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Old 12-29-2013, 03:14 PM
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How do you guys that put the 750s in the back get them about half full for the intermediate wakeboarder? I have a 2008 and I believe I have the 20 minute timers. I played around with the KGB timer and was about to get 26 blinks or so.
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