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Old 04-13-2013, 07:10 PM
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I hate that crap - been there... I always ask for torque wrench... and I watch.... if they don't have it - I take my biz else-where - my dicount tire co. has been good... can't say it's always been good...
So you all are glossing over the rounded lug nut(compliments of a 12 point socket). So they will be able to get that off?
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:18 PM
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So you all are glossing over the rounded lug nut(compliments of a 12 point socket). So they will be able to get that off?
Who said anything about a 12 point socket? Anyone who uses one of those for lug nuts is insane. The only time a 12 point is really useful is when the bolt head has twelve points.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:24 PM
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I've used Jim Grizzle Tire Company in Fort Smith Arkansas since the mid-80's ....... they only tighten with torque wrench!
sure, it takes two guys, but it's their policy! one guy holds the tire, the other guy torques it down.
I've never seen them short-cut service.
Good service is really appreciated. Sounds like they are really overdoing it as it only takes one guy to install a tire when properly using the star pattern for tightening a wheel.

I don't think I ever left a place and said "they had too much service".
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:40 PM
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Who said anything about a 12 point socket? Anyone who uses one of those for lug nuts is insane. The only time a 12 point is really useful is when the bolt head has twelve points.
Never had problems with a properly torqued lug nut. 12 point socket...yea I know, you can't fix stupid, but this is the first time this has happened in 20 years of working on my own cars.
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:55 PM
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Good service is really appreciated. Sounds like they are really overdoing it as it only takes one guy to install a tire when properly using the star pattern for tightening a wheel.

I don't think I ever left a place and said "they had too much service".
well, it's still up in the air on the rack when they torque down the wheels.... so, they just holler "torque" and someone will run over and help.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:37 PM
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well, it's still up in the air on the rack when they torque down the wheels.... so, they just holler "torque" and someone will run over and help.
I like it. Hand torqued with a witness.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:17 PM
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I like it. Hand torqued with a witness.
and they both sign off on the work order... I don't know if something happened in the past, or just precaution.... but it's been like that since I've been going there
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:12 PM
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So you all are glossing over the rounded lug nut(compliments of a 12 point socket). So they will be able to get that off?
Yes the stripped lug nut will eventually come off, the big tool companies sell "special" sockets that get pounded on that grips the nut and removes it, sometimes that doesn't work and have to get the ol' air hammer out. We're all the lug nuts gorilla tight, maybe the tire mechanic just f-up and stripped the one and didn't wanna get yelled at by his manager and decided not to say anything, as it would be 6 months before it was found . My shop is constantly repairing other "shops" f-ups...

They are probably going to tell you to pound sand, say something like were not responsible for something that happened 8 months ago, and prolly say well that wouldn't have happened if you brought it back for tire rotation, and will look at you oddly for using a 12 point socket on lug nuts.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:40 PM
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I like it. Hand torqued with a witness.
I think it's less a matter of being a witness and more like "HE DID IT!".
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:46 PM
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For everyone saying I seen them use the torque wrenches, have you seen the setting, do you know your manufacturers torque settings, when was the last time the wrench was calibrated. Don't know, then you tell yourself it's just lug nuts not surgery. I have seen many people use air impacts then put a torque wrench on, sure hit it with air then the torque wrench just needs to click. if asked if they used a torque wrench they can answer yes did check it with the torque wrench. They just sign off the ticket to make it seem like their going above and beyond. It's lug nuts not rocket science, if you can't hand start some nuts to prevent cross threading and properly secure them you need to be fired or be made to repair what you f-up. Take some money out of the tire mechanics paycheck and watch how fast his work quality improves.
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