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Old 02-18-2013, 01:25 AM
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Resurrecting this thread as I was using it to try and fix a problem...

I've been having problems with my Perfect Pass Wakeboard Pro on my '08 X-15 surging and/or slowing way down when I hit rollers, especially if it is multiple rollers when a couple boats pass. I went to play with the settings as suggested above to see if that would fix it and got confused. At least in wakeboard mode, mine only has KDW and not CS or NN settings. Are these other two in a different menu somewhere? Or in a mode other than wakeboard mode? Or is there a firmware update that I missed somewhere? Looking at the instructions in the pdf earlier in this thread, I've never seen that screen with CS and NN. Mine goes straight to the named riders list where only KDW is available.

If I can't get this sucker working better, I may fork out the $500 and upgrade to Stargazer so I can bypass the paddle wheel driven problems.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:44 AM
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Resurrecting this thread as I was using it to try and fix a problem...

I've been having problems with my Perfect Pass Wakeboard Pro on my '08 X-15 surging and/or slowing way down when I hit rollers, especially if it is multiple rollers when a couple boats pass. I went to play with the settings as suggested above to see if that would fix it and got confused. At least in wakeboard mode, mine only has KDW and not CS or NN settings. Are these other two in a different menu somewhere? Or in a mode other than wakeboard mode? Or is there a firmware update that I missed somewhere? Looking at the instructions in the pdf earlier in this thread, I've never seen that screen with CS and NN. Mine goes straight to the named riders list where only KDW is available.

If I can't get this sucker working better, I may fork out the $500 and upgrade to Stargazer so I can bypass the paddle wheel driven problems.
Did you see pages 3-5 of the manual I attached in post #4 of this thread? I don't know if that document describes your gauges/controls or not.

If your X-15 has the paddle wheel mounted the same as mine, the issue is where it is located on the hull. I was told this by the people at PP when I contacted them for guidance on the settings. Mine is by the center drain plug of the boat. So when going through rollers it is actually leaving the water and catching air. The folks at PP said it really should be more towards the stern to keep it from doing that. For me, increasing the filter factor (NN) helped reduce the issue drastically. It does however take a bit more time for the boat to settle into the correct speed.

You most likely know this. But my son would only advance the throttle to where the PP engaged. So when the boat needed to use more throttle it was not able to. I have to remind him to move the throttle a little extra forward.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:29 PM
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I never saw those screens on my PP. On mine you only choose the mode when creating a new named rider, and when you choose wakeboard mode it only displays an option for KDW. Maybe it's buried in a menu somewhere. Or maybe once you have named rider lists you lose the ability to set NN and CS.

I need to go out one night where I can spend more time with it. Im usually monkeying with it on the water while somebody is waiting for me to be ready and I'm going from memory and don't have this forum or that PDF in front of me. If I can't find those settings in another menu, I'll try a factory reset and start for scratch.

My paddle wheel is indeed near the center drain plug. I used to never have a problem with this and initially suspected something was wrong with my paddle wheel (still possible). I think what's happened, however is that I've recently been riding with better riders who want the boat going a little faster. At 22mph and below I'm thinking that paddle wheel was less likely to come out even going through rollers, but at 23-24 it's causing much more of a problem. Hopefully I can correct this with settings. I don't want to spend the money on a Stargazer upgrade.

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Old 02-18-2013, 03:55 PM
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I am having some of the same issues. I am not even using the specified user settings bc mine was so bad. I messed with all the numbers with a little change, but I mostly just use the RPM mode now. I am going to try some of the numbers in this thread to see if a combination of them will help the problem. I have yet to try it with ballast in the boat so that may make it even more of a headache. Only a few more weeks until I can throw the boat in the water.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:38 AM
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2012 X2 settings

Does anyone have the settings for an x2? We run stock ballast. Thanks
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Old 08-03-2014, 12:34 AM
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CS Limts

My manual CS adjustment seems to stop at 1000. It will only go lower with the Auto Setup.

Is anyone else having this problem?



To make it work what worked best for me was to I have an ('05 X-Star with the Stargazer):

1) Weight the boat in the middle range of where your riders normally ride (for me I maxed out the weight because it seems the Perfect Pass will miss if I do setup with no weight).

2) Press the Menu and Up button at the same time to enter setup mode.

3) In setup mode edit Control Setting on this screen do the auto CS number set. You have to drive pretty consistently from about 3,000 to 4,200 RPM and then down to 3,500 or so again. Then the auto will kick in. Reduce to idle and hit MENU to save that number.

4) I next believe?!? That doing the slalom RPM settings at the different speeds may also help the setup as well??

5) Then I go back and manually adjust the KDW and the NN

Mine are:

CS 650-700
KDW 130-140 right now
NN 140

6) Man if all of this fails and U just want cruise control then just goto the Config Settings "Press the Menu and Up button at the same time" again and do "Device Testing". Setting 1.2 or 1.3 seems to be about 22 MPH for me.


Sucks that this is not easier! Really sucks that my MC dealer could not figure it out. They had me call:

Gary Allen at Perfect Pass:
902-468-2150
8-4 est

that may be his cell so use it sparingly?!?!?

-Jason

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Old 09-22-2014, 10:05 PM
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Ha found this thread I knew I read it ahwile back and thanks to Aric for his mad search skills. I road behind goneboatn x15 and his perfect pass works way better then mine. Oh ya got the screen fixed so now it's time to try some of these setting tommorow
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:35 PM
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Have you thought of zero off. That will solve all surging issues.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:38 PM
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I haven't got a clear story on that. I have tried turning on 3 event. And I have heard if I add the gps puck it will install, but no one can verify what I need to do. And the puck is around 800. So if I knew mor I would try. But that's my problem it over shoots 5 to 7 mph, then under another 2 mph. But I was on goneboatn x15 and he was dialed in to maybe 1 mph but I couldn't feel it
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:35 AM
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Zero off will solve that issue no problem. Your dealership should know what to do, many 2012's were switched over from pp to zero off
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