Custom surfgate project

[MIskier]

Originally Posted by KahunaCraft

My thought is that the surf gate would need more proprietary technology. BU is a company that is trying to patent a common device, a trim tab. The only thing slightly different is the position (vertical). I'd argue that vertical trim tabs were invented by Sea-Doo and were used to help with steering on models dating back at least 5 years. Attachment 86100Attachment 86101

...and before that they were experimented on full size ships to help with maneuvering. There are all sorts of crazy patents in the marine industry and it is fairly hard to enforce them. For example there are multiple patents for stepped hulls but no one is getting paid for their idea unless someone is using those Exact lines as a parent hull, and are honest and obtained them in a legitimate manner.

Point being that if its a blatant copy with no changes than 'Bu may be able to make something stick if they are willing to pursue legal action, but it may not be worth their time and effort.

[sand2snow22]

Originally Posted by KahunaCraft

My thought is that the surf gate would need more proprietary technology. BU is a company that is trying to patent a common device, a trim tab. The only thing slightly different is the position (vertical). I'd argue that vertical trim tabs were invented by Sea-Doo and were used to help with steering on models dating back at least 5 years. Attachment 86100Attachment 86101

I ran across some repo'd SeaDoo's that look identical to that bottom picture. I've been meaning to post it on thebucrew.com stating that it's the OG surfgate!

[sand2snow22]

Originally Posted by MIskier

...and before that they were experimented on full size ships to help with maneuvering. There are all sorts of crazy patents in the marine industry and it is fairly hard to enforce them. For example there are multiple patents for stepped hulls but no one is getting paid for their idea unless someone is using those Exact lines as a parent hull, and are honest and obtained them in a legitimate manner.

Point being that if its a blatant copy with no changes than 'Bu may be able to make something stick if they are willing to pursue legal action, but it may not be worth their time and effort.

Come on MI, MC have anything up their sleeve?????

[sand2snow22]

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[MIskier]

Originally Posted by sand2snow22

Come on MI, MC have anything up their sleeve?????

I honestly don't know, I haven't talked to anyone at the factory since early Sept. and surf gate didn't come up.

Honestly I think there are better developments to be made with the hull geometry to create an amazing surf wake. Surf gate is sort of a band aid, and a good add on for existing owners that want to improve the quality of their wake.

[thamax]

I have no interest in selling something at all just made a comment on what could be a huge deal for people that want to make a great surf wake I try and avoid my attorney at all cost due to the price they charge just for advice. Manual gates could be done but wave transition wouldn't be possible so I guess it's a $700 project or a $100 but you have to switch it by hand

[CantRepeat]

Originally Posted by KahunaCraft

In case you're looking for it, trademark paperwork is here ...

http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85...documentSearch

Well, it looks like they have trademarked the name and the wave logo, not the "surf gate" itself.

[aquaman]

It might be possible to simply add an additional platform bracket if needed ?

or

to re-enforce the single bracket.


Tabs make alot more sense than massive weight in the boat.

[CantRepeat]

Originally Posted by aquaman

It might be possible to simply add an additional platform bracket if needed ?

or

to re-enforce the single bracket.


Tabs make alot more sense than massive weight in the boat.

But as MI pointed out, tabs don't really do that much for a surf wake.

[Crafty Cracker]

Hey could you share with me your measurements- you said you had exact measurements or took many? Photos or anything helpful would be appreciated.Thank you.