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[captain planet]

Oh, and there was that receiver that got paralyzed by Jack Tatum in that preseason game.......Darryl Stingley......I had to look that one up.


......I don't know why I'm answering, I'm not a patriots fan.

[scott023]

Originally Posted by captain planet

Again, this is why I look at stats and facts to determine who is better. Numbers don't lie, they don't have feelings, they don't talk, they just are, and therefore they cannot be ignored.

Drew Brees is also better than brady, yet the Saints are not in the playoffs so you don't hear that he is the best from Simms or Young. It helps to be on a great team to be considered really great by these guys.

I'm a big Brees fan, but his interception numbers are a lot less pretty to look at than Brady's. I don't think he's a better QB than Brady.

You know you have to look outside the numbers, sometimes, to place a true value on a players importance to the team... just sayin.


And no, I'm not a Pats fan.

Seriously.

[TxsRiverRat]

Originally Posted by scott023

I'm a big Brees fan...

Drew Brees wears the same panties and Tony Romo!

[scott023]

Originally Posted by TxsRiverRat

Drew Brees wears the same panties and Tony Romo!

At least Brees has won something. His panties must fit better.

[TxsRiverRat]

Originally Posted by scott023

At least Brees has won something. His panties must fit better.

I hope Jerry doesnt win another playoff game as long as he's alive!

[scott023]

Originally Posted by TxsRiverRat

I hope Jerry doesnt win another playoff game as long as he's alive!

At this point, it isn't hard to imagine that your wish will come true.

[captain planet]

Originally Posted by scott023

I'm a big Brees fan, but his interception numbers are a lot less pretty to look at than Brady's. I don't think he's a better QB than Brady.

You know you have to look outside the numbers, sometimes, to place a true value on a players importance to the team... just sayin.


And no, I'm not a Pats fan.

Seriously.

yrs yards td int ypg comp % 4000+ yd seasons 5000+ yd seasons
Brees 12 45919 324 165 270.1 65.6 4 3
brady 13 44806 334 123 253.1 63.7 5 1


Brees is also better than brady. If Brees keeps it up (and his numbers are still trending upwards), he will break the all time yards record.

And to address the bold above.....when brady went down in 2008, Matt Cassell was plugged into the Belechik system and took them to an 11-5 regular season record. The success of the Patriots is the system, not tom brady.

I believe my body of work here has proven without a doubt that brady is over rated as a QB. If Cassell can be the next man up and take them 11-5 pass for nearly 3700 yards, get traded to K.C. and then tank, it shows that the system is the driver here. The same can be said for S.F. with Montana and Young and the west-coast offense that Bill Walsh created. Young was actually much better than Montana, and a better athlete. Montana and brady are equally over-rated.

[TxsRiverRat]

Originally Posted by captain planet

yrs yards td int ypg comp % 4000+ yd seasons 5000+ yd seasons
Brees 12 45919 324 165 270.1 65.6 4 3
brady 13 44806 334 123 253.1 63.7 5 1


Brees is also better than brady. If Brees keeps it up (and his numbers are still trending upwards), he will break the all time yards record.

And to address the bold above.....when brady went down in 2008, Matt Cassell was plugged into the Belechik system and took them to an 11-5 regular season record. The success of the Patriots is the system, not tom brady.

Was that cassell season the same season they went 11-5 and missed the playoffs?

And is Brees' interception level also trending upwards?

[captain planet]

Originally Posted by TxsRiverRat

Was that cassell season the same season they went 11-5 and missed the playoffs?

And is Brees' interception level also trending upwards?

Yup, 11-5 and no playoffs.

Brees int's are nearly level, a little less than one per game. He has had over 40 TDs the last two seasons.

[scott023]

Originally Posted by captain planet

Yup, 11-5 and no playoffs.

Brees int's are nearly level, a little less than one per game. He has had over 40 TDs the last two seasons.

Over 40 more interceptions... wonder how many points those led to for the opponents? And how many of those points led to losses for the Saints...