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[tex]

I had not watched much of the Falcons this season...their receivers are beasts! I wish we had that!

[TxsRiverRat]

Originally Posted by tex

I had not watched much of the Falcons this season...their receivers are beasts! I wish we had that!

What difference would it make without an offensive line

[captain planet]

Originally Posted by scott023

Jealousy sure is ugly.

So is an over-rated QB.

[shepherd]

Go Ravens!

[bbymgr]

Originally Posted by captain planet

So is an over-rated QB.

I understand.................................all you OSU fans hate Brady because he is from Michigan, and OSU has never had a descent QB in the NFL. Unless you want to count Tomczak and his career stats of 88 TD & 106 INT.

[captain planet]

Originally Posted by bbymgr

I understand.................................all you OSU fans hate Brady because he is from Michigan, and OSU has never had a descent QB in the NFL. Unless you want to count Tomczak and his career stats of 88 TD & 106 INT.

Like I've said before, it is the system that generates his numbers, not him. Belechik should get the majority of the credit, not brady. Matt cassel....look at him in N.E.....and look at him in K.C.

[scott023]

Originally Posted by captain planet

So is an over-rated QB.

CP you are so full of it, it's astonishing. Take all your rubbish stats and look at facts... might help if you take of the rose tinted glasses. I've read you hailing Peyton, yet his stats when it comes to playoffs are a long cry from Bradys, there's no comparison. That alone shows your bias.

[scott023]

Originally Posted by bbymgr

I understand.................................all you OSU fans hate Brady because he is from Michigan, and OSU has never had a descent QB in the NFL. Unless you want to count Tomczak and his career stats of 88 TD & 106 INT.

DING DING DING

[captain planet]

Originally Posted by scott023

CP you are so full of it, it's astonishing. Take all your rubbish stats and look at facts... might help if you take of the rose tinted glasses. I've read you hailing Peyton, yet his stats when it comes to playoffs are a long cry from Bradys, there's no comparison. That alone shows your bias.

When it comes to playoffs, Manning threw for more yards than brady in every head to head playoff match-up.

As for stats and facts. Here are a couple that you can't ignore. Matt Cassell's magical 2008 season in New England when brady went down, he ended up passing for more yards than brady did in 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2006. Not only that, but he had a higher yards per game average than brady's 2001, 2003, and 2006 seasons. So there is a HUGE argument that the system produces these numbers, not the players skill. As you can see, take Cassell out of the system and he is pedestrian. A test of a great QB is, take him off the team, place him somewhere else and see what he does. Please refer to Favre, Brees, and Manning. brady is not at the same level as these guys.

I concede that brady is a good QB. But he is not as good as the repeated perception.

[captain planet]

And to elaborate another Fact. Manning has thrown for over 4000 yards in 12 of 14 seasons, or approximately 86% of the time. Brady has thrown for over 4000 yards in 5 of 11 seasons, or approximately 45% of the time.

To be fair, I did not count the 2008 season for brady, nor did I count 2011 for Manning as they were both injured. So you see, I am unbiased.......and Manning is better.