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Old 07-03-2008, 08:22 AM
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Stargazer Upgrade for PerfectPass - HOW TO GUIDE

Okay, did a search on StarGazer and 2 pages worth of different links came up. So I'm going to try to combine these all to link to the various Threads as relative to an install. Start a FAQ page on StarGazer or Star Gazer or stargazer.

So to start, I'll be receiving the upgrade today. Thank you Bill at http://www.nefwm.com

I will be upgrading my 6.5ng (multi-line display) on my DriveByWire 2005 197 with MCX engine. I have the standard transmission, NO POWERSLOT!!!

I've received lots of great feedback from friends who have done the install, but I'm sure there are others out there who would like to get their system setup for optimum performance right out of the box.
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:14 AM
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I'm not recommending any of these posts, just creating a list to help other's like myself sort through all the details. Hopefully soon I'll provide a summary of what I believe to be of most importance from each of these.

PP stargazer vs wakeboard pro
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer

Perfect Pass Digital Pro Master Module
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer

PP or Zero-off
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer

Tips on setting Stargazer baselines?
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer

Stargazer Updates Coming Soon
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer

PP Stargazer Problems HELP
http://tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showth...ight=stargazer
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:28 PM
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The installation manual says it is okay to install the transponder underneath the dash fiberglass. Has anyone tried this? I was just thinking that is a quicker install than looping the cord through the back edge of the instrument panel.

I might just try it and see if I get a signal. It doesn't appear that location is essential. Anyone know the tolerance of the transceiver. Is it within inches or feet?

I'm just thinking long term cleanliness, adding it on top just makes one more thing to clean around?!?
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:51 PM
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And I was worried about getting a signal through the bimini. Guess there's only one way to find out.
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Old 07-03-2008, 10:55 PM
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Underneath the dash fiberglass?

Not sure I understand - and I don't recall much from the manual other than a pic I saw showing it where I put it ultimately. Our 08' TT has the pucks all lined up fwd of the windshield just behind the wraparound seats via velcro. 2 for the ZO and 1 for the SG. Both are the same Garmin antennae with different stickers.

On my 07' TT 197 it took me 5 minutes to pop the dashpod up - pull the antennae wire through, and resecure. All told - physical installation took about 10 minutes. No issues with a mini tower bimini extended.

Be sure to grab all your baselines and other discrete values out of 6.5ng before you disconnect it from power/display.

The newer version takes zero input from the PW. I now have that version. If you ski on a river with a current, you might miss 6.5ng or the PW version of SG.

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Old 07-04-2008, 12:37 AM
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Underneath the dash fiberglass?

Not sure I understand - and I don't recall much from the manual other than a pic I saw showing it where I put it ultimately. Our 08' TT has the pucks all lined up fwd of the windshield just behind the wraparound seats via velcro. 2 for the ZO and 1 for the SG. Both are the same Garmin antennae with different stickers.
Just a cleaner look placing the GPS under the dash, mounted directly to the fiberglass. Near the center corner there is a stiff wire that is wedged against the top surface, so I located the GPS there, so that is has some extra holding power with the adhesive velcro. Initially I put the unit on the dash to get a signal, then once the signal was strong I played with it a couple times while under by boat canopy. Never a lost signal. Turned it on/off and instantly it found the satellites. VERY COOL INDEED!!!
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:43 AM
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Be sure to grab all your baselines and other discrete values out of 6.5ng before you disconnect it from power/display.

The newer version takes zero input from the PW. I now have that version. If you ski on a river with a current, you might miss 6.5ng or the PW version of SG.

Jerry
Okay so I recorded down my previous 6.5ng baselines, but PP put a "POST-IT NOTE" on my module to do the CS/CR Setting to Auto first before calibration. Guess I just drive it up to 3800-4200 RPM while that screen is open. I'm not really sure what this does, ANYONE?

Then each speed says CAL so then I'll do the calibrate. Any suggestions on over-riding or "pre-setting" these to my previous baselines?

So this latest version of SG isn't using the paddle wheel at all, except for temperature? Why wouldn't they just continue to incorporate it. Must have just been making the software too complex!!!

As for my installation, took longer than 10min. As I had to review part of the kick panel to swap out the harness wire (required on '05 MCX upgrade as ECM is already flashed). But playing with the menu, MUY BUENO, so much easier to use. Light night and day.

I'm planning to calibrate at 8am tomorrow morning with a crew and 1/2-3/4 gas and bimini on.

I still can't figure out how to get the "L" next to the skier. The only mode it appears to work in is "PRACTICE". Maybe that's because I'm still needing to calibrate first. Planning to run with two pick-ups as I've got all-buoy timing with only 8 magnets.
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Underneath the dash fiberglass?

Not sure I understand - and I don't recall much from the manual other than a pic I saw showing it where I put it ultimately. Our 08' TT has the pucks all lined up fwd of the windshield just behind the wraparound seats via velcro. 2 for the ZO and 1 for the SG. Both are the same Garmin antennae with different stickers.

On my 07' TT 197 it took me 5 minutes to pop the dashpod up - pull the antennae wire through, and resecure. All told - physical installation took about 10 minutes. No issues with a mini tower bimini extended.

Be sure to grab all your baselines and other discrete values out of 6.5ng before you disconnect it from power/display.

The newer version takes zero input from the PW. I now have that version. If you ski on a river with a current, you might miss 6.5ng or the PW version of SG.

Jerry
Some versions of 7.0.5 take paddle wheel input and some don't. I'm not sure if there's still a choice for customers who are buying the latest unit, but already have paddle wheels.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:08 AM
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Some versions of 7.0.5 take paddle wheel input and some don't. I'm not sure if there's still a choice for customers who are buying the latest unit, but already have paddle wheels.
I already had the paddle wheel installed, so how wil I know if it is taking this data? I'm not really worried as I never ski in a current.

I do have a friend that does a lot of river skiing and already has an '05 Moomba with Servo running 6.5ng. He's looking to upgrade to SG to help with "river current" skiing. Looks like that isn't a good idea at present. Again this would be another huge opportunity for PP to excel my incorporating this in next upgrade.
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Old 07-05-2008, 03:16 PM
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The L should appear in Tournament mode, I think you get there by pressing up and down at the same time (same as before). When calibrating Skip's boat, we did reset most of the baselines to get good times all the way through. It was a breeze to drive in a tournament once it was set up. I'll definitely be doing mine at some point...
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