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Old 05-11-2014, 09:35 PM
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Cloaked...stuff is super gripping...so I removed backing one half at a time and set that half before moving to next.
Thank you. That is what I was thinking.

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Old 05-11-2014, 09:44 PM
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How did the insulation do as far as sound deadening? I want to try this on mine.

On a side note, does anyone have any insight to removing the vent in my box? I cant see it doing much other than letting a little hot air out when not running.

Personally, I would not buy it soley for acoustical performance...although it did help help in my situation from not having anything last summer. Not their top product for sound...but it is very good looking IMO. Easy to install. I would do it again.

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Old 05-11-2014, 09:48 PM
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BTW...I don't think their top sound product is adhesive backed...and that was a must for me. I was not going to spray glue.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:06 PM
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This is considered a barrier and deadening material for sound. I've done extensive research on sound deadening, since bringing the sound level down in my diesel truck. (I've taken it from 99 dB down to 82dB) - that's a *huge* decrease, as the scale is logarithmic, and I'm not done. Boat will be soon to follow, I promise.

The largest problem with the boat is twofold, the barrier and deadening layers are good - the deadening layer won't do a heck of a lot for us in the boat department though, due to the lack of resonance in fiberglass, whereas in sheetmetal it is much more prone to resonate. It will help, but not greatly.

What you really need is an absorption layer in addition to the barrier, deadening, and decoupling layer. The problem is, in our boats, this is going to be a significant challenge to do without significant modifications.

MLV - mass loaded vinyl is really the missing link in the equation here to block sound, and that's what you need here - something to completely block the sound. MLV is very heavy, about 1/4" thick, and very hard to "adhere". I might experiment with some on my current engine hatch. If you could get a layer of MLV to adhere, then add a layer of Ensolite closed cell foam on top of that, that would be a relatively thin, and very effective sound absorption solution.

Here's some good reading on the actual science behind what's going on.
http://cascadeaudio.com/car_noise_control/index.htm

I actually have some of their larger engine box insulation in stock, but there isn't room inside my engine box to place it, at least on the sides, there may be enough height to put a layer on the top.

All I can say is stay tuned - probably this coming fall and winter, and I can tell you a bit more about what I've found to be effective.

I've got thousands of dollars and quite a few hours in the truck project, and it's completely worth it... I will apply what I've learned there to the boat.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:06 PM
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I am new to this forum but know a bit about insulation (18 years at Owens Corning). Would a 3/4" thick for pmable glueable sheet work? We make this stuff for hvac that's semi rigid, cut able, has fiberglass facing with foiled backing-- that combo provides resistance to reverb as well as Eliminates sound transfer...also has R 3-4 so will reduce thermal heat transfer...

That foam stuff in my 96 is falling off and until I read your posts I hadn't thought much about it..

Happy to send you a small sample
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:18 PM
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For those that have done the installation, would you say the results were worth the time and money? I don't mind the engine noise in the boat much but if it helps significantly I'm always open for little areas to tinker with on the boat.
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:32 PM
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For those that have done the installation, would you say the results were worth the time and money? I don't mind the engine noise in the boat much but if it helps significantly I'm always open for little areas to tinker with on the boat.
I think it was...start to finish I think I may have put in about 8 hours or so...beers in between.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:32 PM
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Rockman, were you the one who had problems with the aluminum strip inside the motor box? If so, did you get it back in shape? Did you use rivets?
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:12 PM
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For those that have done the installation, would you say the results were worth the time and money? I don't mind the engine noise in the boat much but if it helps significantly I'm always open for little areas to tinker with on the boat.
On the product that I bought....don't know that I would buy it solely for acoustical performance. Of course I am the guy that rolls his window down at a stop light to hear a good V8 take off. (Also Porsches'). Those sounds never get old for me...so I have kinda trained my hear to listen to my boat when in use. Mainly bought for looks and for the wifey who wanted a quieter boat. Her first time out is this weekend...so i plan on asking her.
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:34 PM
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On the product that I bought....don't know that I would buy it solely for acoustical performance. Of course I am the guy that rolls his window down at a stop light to hear a good V8 take off. (Also Porsches'). Those sounds never get old for me...so I have kinda trained my hear to listen to my boat when in use. Mainly bought for looks and for the wifey who wanted a quieter boat. Her first time out is this weekend...so i plan on asking her.
It looks great. Job well done.
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