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Old 02-17-2014, 10:53 PM
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Pete, I didn't know you are a ford guy...
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:59 PM
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Bad news? I think not. Ford sold more trucks in september and october than Toyota did in 2013.

To add a little less ford presence (you're welcome scott haha) It took only took Chevy a fiscal quarter to outsell toyota's 2013 sales.



But, I am excited to see the availability of half ton diesels rising in the US. It's a step in the right direction.
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Toyota has hinted at this for so long.... I'll believe it when I see it.

We saw some test mules recently on a trip to Colorado testing on Loveland pass. Its real! The engineers didnt want to talk though, but it was definetly a diesel and you dont normally bring packages like that to public roads unless you bringing to market I would think.
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Old 03-17-2014, 01:41 PM
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Forgot to add, you can get the RAM 1500 with an 8 speed and a 3.0 v6 diesel now. It is a very nice package.
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glad its at least a real diesel ... not like the earlier failed attempt in the late 1970s into the 1990s in the Chevy half ton with the 350 converted to diesel, later replaced with the 6.2 and later with the 6.5 (don't think the 6.5 was available in half tons though).
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Forgot to add, you can get the RAM 1500 with an 8 speed and a 3.0 v6 diesel now. It is a very nice package.
The diesel is made by Fiat, 420 lb. ft. of torque, 26 mpg (probably 2WD version?)

Price one and you'll think twice from what I've read. No real gain in torque, diesel fuel cost $.60 or $.70 more per gallon. So where's the economy in that?

To each their own but I'll stick with my Ford Eco-boost.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:38 PM
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Why is it sad news? What possible reason would there be to buy one of these Johnny come lately brands, when GM, Ford, and Dodge have been doing diesels since the 90's?

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Old 03-17-2014, 10:37 PM
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glad its at least a real diesel ... not like the earlier failed attempt in the late 1970s into the 1990s in the Chevy half ton with the 350 converted to diesel, later replaced with the 6.2 and later with the 6.5 (don't think the 6.5 was available in half tons though).
Word. Had one of those in a motorhome from the mid 90s. Biggest pos ever. The only fix would of been to replace it with a 7.3 powerstroke.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:07 AM
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The diesel is made by Fiat, 420 lb. ft. of torque, 26 mpg (probably 2WD version?)

Price one and you'll think twice from what I've read. No real gain in torque, diesel fuel cost $.60 or $.70 more per gallon. So where's the economy in that?

To each their own but I'll stick with my Ford Eco-boost.
The diesel is made by fiat....I dont see the problem there?

420lb ft of torque? Hooked up to a ZF 8 speed trans? Where is the issue?

28mpg's I think was certified in 4wd weight.


I have driven them, and they are awesome packages. Feels like im driving a freight train with all the torque. I think it is targetting the guys who have money, want a diesel that can tow and still get great mpg's hooked and unhooked, and want that all in the best handling truck on the market.

Ive read the eco-boost is getting brutal real worl fuel economy, and im not surprised.
Are you getting good fuel economy in yours?

I ask in all serousness. I read lots of people slamming all packages. I have a crew cab ram 1500, 4x4 with the 3.6 8 speed and 3.55 gears. Ill get 22mpg's at 80mph. We tow a 4500-5000lb horse trailer aswell 1 or 2 times a month and it pulls it just fine. Still gets great fuel economy towing that, but I doubt you guys drive like my lady does when she tows it. Drives like a grandma....but i dont complain. End result is good fuel economy, and reduced drivetrain wear
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:19 PM
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The new V6 diesel in the Ram 1500 is produced by VM Motori which is now owned by Fiat. They purchased the remaining 50% of the company from GM this past Oct.

The 1/2 ton diesel market is for customers who still want the shorter bed and comfy ride of a 1500 that tow heavier on the weekends but don't need a HD truck to daily drive or need to tow over 10K pounds. Just my $.02......

I would sure look into them if I wanted a 1/2 ton. The ecoboost is a nice engine for towing but the fuel economy numbers are a farce. The new 5.3 from GM gets better fuel economy in real world driving and in a Car and Driver head to head. Not saying the new 5.3 tows better but I would like to see a head to head towing comparison.

Looks like in 2015 ford is introducing a 2.7 ecoboost to try and get the fuel economy numbers they wanted from the 3.5.
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