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Old 09-11-2005, 10:50 PM
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hooking the hull

my ski buddy has an 01 p190. its immaculate to say the least. be both ski behind it regularly on the course. he wants a new boat because of its tracking issues and slopply wake at 22. i told him i have heard about people having the 01 hull "hooked" to be exaclty like an 03,04 prostar. has anyone done this and who did it. neither of us trust the local dealer to do it.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:55 PM
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I have an 01 prostar,,, what do you mean by hooked??
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:01 PM
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the newer boats, starting with the pro tournament in 02 , are hooked in the rear of the hull. this makes the bow ride lower and the t-rudder you have unneccesary. makes the boat track better and have a consistent softer wake at the 22off area.
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:09 PM
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the newer boats, starting with the pro tournament in 02 , are hooked in the rear of the hull. this makes the bow ride lower and the t-rudder you have unneccesary. makes the boat track better and have a consistent softer wake at the 22off area.
So "hooked" means shaved, right?

When we used to let friends/cousins ride the Jet Skis (old school standup and sitdown 650X-2's) ... they were always banging into chit, (or so it seemed) we would take them to a shop that strictly did fiberglass repair, I'll bet they could HOOK you up. I wonder though if the hooking procedure (if done incorrectly) might cause the boat to be to thin in places?

Rod, he is probably just jealous of you new Bu' ... you know what he really needs to do
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:22 PM
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The shop in Spokane for fiberglass repair is Boatworks II ... but that probably won't help anyone but AirJunky and SkySkiSpokane
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:23 PM
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he has nothing to be jealous about, his boat is awesome. it just has the same prob that all 01' have. realistically it's not a big deal. it skiies great.

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Old 09-12-2005, 07:48 AM
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I had a 2002 PS 197 that I had my local dealer hook, and it turned out great. It was the first one they had done, which admittedly made me a bit nervous, however, I trust my dealer. They got the specs from the factory and when it was done, you could not tell that it was added, no matter where you looked. We left the "T Rudder" on as well and had twice the amount of lift, which was great for my slalom wake, however, it made the wells on either side of the wake a bit smaller for the barefoot tricks.
The 22-Off bump was gone, however, the biggest thing I noticed was that I shot spray out the side of the boat a lot further. In order to use a boom on the boat after having this done, I had to utilize 2 of the 18inch extensions, which really puts you out there and makes it tough on your driver. Had we taken off the "T Rudder" I am sure that some of that would have gone away.
In any case, Mid-Ohio Watersports (www.midohiowatersports.com) did mine and have done several since, so give them a call and maybe they can help you or coach your local dealer in the "How Too's".
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Old 09-12-2005, 10:26 AM
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he has nothing to be jealous about, his boat is awesome. it just has the same prob that all 01' have. realistically it's not a big deal. it skiies great.
I don't know that 01 is the same hull as an 02 and I'm assuming you guys are talking about changing the rudder when and if you do this?
That pic looks like a 209? I thought you said 190 I also don't know if it would have the same effect on a 209?
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:15 AM
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my ski buddy has an 01 p190. its immaculate to say the least. be both ski behind it regularly on the course. he wants a new boat because of its tracking issues and slopply wake at 22. i told him i have heard about people having the 01 hull "hooked" to be exaclty like an 03,04 prostar. has anyone done this and who did it. neither of us trust the local dealer to do it.
There have been a few threads on this here. The issue is hooking the hull vs adding a wake plate, like the Lenco tab MC is putting on the 06 230VRS/X30. Some of the Maristars from a few years ago apparently have a little porpoising problem at higher speeds, and these plates fix that, as well as flattening the wake on those V drives.

One way to test it is to duct tape some pieces of a thin piece of wood, like a paint stirrer or wooden yard stick across part of the very back of the hull. Apparently it doesn't stay very long, but usually long enough to test whether or not it works. Another poster here by gluing various "wedges" to the hull to see the effect. It helped him know how much of a hook he needed to have glassed in.

My 230VRS doesn't porpoise and the wake meets our skiing needs, but I wouldn't mind getting the bow down just a little and I would like to get rid of the rooster tail at 15-22 off, so I'm going to add the MC Lenco wake tab in the spring. Gregg did that and it helped a lot on that boat.
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:06 AM
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My '02 PS 197 is being "hooked" as we speak. Should be done in a day or so. Work is being performed by Texas MasterCraft in Fort Worth, TX. Jimmie says the glass guy has the jigs direct form MasterCraft engineering to fit it just like the '03-05's. Details to follow......
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