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Old 11-09-2012, 10:06 AM
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Starting boat out of the water

I put my 3 hours old 197 into the water today drove it the length of lake about Halve a mile
then drove back with a skier got to end started to turn then the temp light came on I noticed high temp switched off motor straight away .i ph dealer and it's going in first thing Monday.
what I want to know is does anyone start there boat before they put in water. I don't run the motor I just turn key soon as it turns over I switch it off.only because the first time I put my x14 in the water the battery was flat. after that I did it every time with the 14 had no probs.
the dealer said I might of burnt out one of the pick up blades. and I not suppose to do it.
but I did it with jet ski and the X14. the guy that runs the lakes said last year it happen to a brand new Malibu so he said it not uncommon
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:22 AM
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We never start the engines or turn the motors over out of the water. I will back the trailer up enough to get the pick-ups wet and then fire them up, then power off the trailer. If you have a bad battery, no worries, your still on the trailer and not flotaing anywhere.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:26 AM
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Something certainly sounds wrong with the water intake but I wouldn't be quick to assume its because of turning your engine over for a couple seconds out of the water. Did you ever drive through weeds or a shallow area so that you could have sucked up some gunk?

If my boat has been sitting for a couple weeks or more, I always turn the engine over (much to my neighbor's chagrin) for literally 1 second to make sure the batteries are good. So don't feel bad about doing that and i hardly think that a second of spinning dry can damage the impellor. In terms of boating, few things are worse than getting to the dock and having dead batteries. good luck

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Old 11-09-2012, 10:38 AM
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If you fired up your boat without hooking it to any water source, especially after having it sit for any extended period of time, you probably didn't break just 1 vane from your impeller, but you probably broke every one of them off instead. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, under any circumstance start your boat without it being in the water or hooked up to a hose. The impeller vanes are rubber, rubbing against a metal housing. They burn up and break off very quickly when they start spinning while they're dry, and they start spinning as soon as the starter starts trying to turn the motor over. If you started it for the first time after sitting all winter, the rubber impeller had also probably began to seat to the metal housing, making it even harder to spin and break loose on the first start while dry. Impellers need to be lubricated, and water is their lubricant. It's like having a prostate examination with no lube... you wouldn't like that would ya?

The good news is, you could fix this yourself for the cost of an impeller at www.skidim.com instead of paying for what will probably end up being a 500+ dollar dealer visit. If you decide to do it yourself, be sure to go through all the hoses after the impeller housing up all the way to your thermostat, because that's more than likely where all of the vanes you broke off are piled up at.

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Old 11-10-2012, 01:54 PM
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If you fired up your boat without hooking it to any water source, especially after having it sit for any extended period of time, you probably didn't break just 1 vane from your impeller, but you probably broke every one of them off instead.
This is absolute misinformation. I start my boat all the time out of the water. When I winterize it at the end of the season the impeller is fine. I'm on the same impeller for 4 years now and it still looks like new.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:48 PM
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This is absolute misinformation. I start my boat all the time out of the water. When I winterize it at the end of the season the impeller is fine. I'm on the same impeller for 4 years now and it still looks like new.
So the guy who drives drunk all the time and hasn't killed anyone yet proves that drinking and driving isn't a bad thing? I know that's overstating things, but that's the logic you're using. Everything works, until it doesn't. You're way past the useful life of that impeller. It'll be fine till it isn't. Then when your engine overheats, I hope you're watching your temp gauge and shut it down before it does major damage. Ask yourself if a thirty dollar part and a few minutes are worth the risk to your engine.
Bumping is iffy, dry starting is a mistake, imo. But we're all allowed to make our own mistakes.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:47 PM
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This is absolute misinformation. I start my boat all the time out of the water. When I winterize it at the end of the season the impeller is fine. I'm on the same impeller for 4 years now and it still looks like new.
It may look like new but I guarantee the vanes don't push back on the housing like they need to, in order to provide sufficient water flow rate. Having seen and replaced numbers well into the hundreds of impellers that were missing vanes, I'd rather be safe than cheap.

Look at it this way- what's the cost of an impeller and gasket vs the cost to repair the damage from one that lets you down when you least expect and least want it to?
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:46 AM
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hi thanks for the replies so far. just to let you know I am in oz so we are starting our summer .and the boats brand new I took it out 2weeks ago and then again today .so it hasn't been sitting .
we checked underneath and there was no weeds etc near the intake .
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:51 AM
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hi thanks for the replies so far. just to let you know I am in oz so we are starting our summer .and the boats brand new I took it out 2weeks ago and then again today .so it hasn't been sitting .
we checked underneath and there was no weeds etc near the intake .
Take a look at your impellar and see what kind of condition it's in.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:07 AM
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My dealer started a new boat in the showroom and man did it sound sweet! I personally never start it out of the water. I do exactly what someone else recommends I leave it on the trailer and back it off in reverse. I don't like the push off the trailer due to anything can happen and if it's still on the trailer you really don't have any big problems. (leave the plug out and etc..)

I'm going to bet it's not the impellar, I think it's something else.

Let us know what you find.

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