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Old 08-15-2012, 01:14 AM
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Automotive Paint Over/On Top Of Gel Coat

Starting my research on my maybe winter project. I purchased my 92 Prostar this spring and have started working through issues as they come up this season.

The boat was redone at some point not long ago and from afar and in pictures looks great. It's once you’re up close to start to notice a few problems/issues. These range from missing foam below the windshield, to an obvious patch and filler on the gunnel, to the seam between the hull and top deck not meeting up as they should.

I took this boat in as a trade and new it would be a bit of a project to get it into the condition I would be happy with, but it runs and gets me and my family on the lake, which is by far the most important part of owning a boat.

Now you know the back story I am going to use this thread to detail my progress and help me find answers to the questions I can't seem to search out. Thanks everyone in advance.

First issue I am going to tackle is that the boat was painted, which as I mentioned makes it look great from far away. Although up close you can tell it is a re paint, most due to very obvious rock chips on the bow. I was told it look like it was painted with automotive paint, probably right over the old Gel coat.

So what do you guys suggest is the best way to remove the paint without ruining the gel coat? Suggestions?
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:21 AM
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Could we see some pictures of it?
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:25 AM
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Tomcat had the same issue. He had it redone through an insurance claim but I guess it cost an arm and a leg. Looks like the guy sanded it down and started from scratch. Search for his thread it may give you an idea.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:05 AM
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Here is a picture of it looking pretty good from far away. I'll see if I can't get how bad it really is to show up in some pictures this afternoon.

I was quoted over 15,000 for a pro to clean it up and give it a whole new gelcoat. I just can't justify spending that short of money. Not that I don't think it's worth that at a pro shop but I think much of that is just the labour hours it's going to take sanding it down after I get the paint out.

My thinking is that if I can get the paint off and fix as many of the dings and issues myself: 1) I will learn a new skill which is always nice, 2) I will have a boat that I can take some true pride in, knowing I did it myself.

I am thinking I will still need to have it sent out once I do all the leg work to be re gelcoated, although I won't know how bad it is until I get the paint off.

I was reading last night that probably acetone is the place to start and if that doesn't work move to airplane stripper?
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:46 AM
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when you say deck and hull not meeting up as it should what do you mean...some pics would help. I had some issues with my deck and hull where the previous owner bumped docks etc. I removed the rub rail and filled in the problem areas with 3M 5200....drilled out old rivets and put in new rivets glued in with 3M 5200.

Windshield gasket - easy..just have someone help you...glass very expensive.

regarding the paint...check into wrapping it with vinyl. Lot less work and aggravation and you can personalize the boat. If you have patience you can wrap it yourself....not easy...but might a good project for the winter if you have a heated work area.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:56 PM
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Here are some pictures of the major issues. I tried to get some of where the paint ran bit but couldn't get them to show up. in the picture that looks like just the side of the boat, that is showing over spray, it is not a water line mark.
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:46 PM
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I dont see anything wrong with the last pic in post #6



The top cap and the bottom hull should not be seamed together.

The boat is designed to be separated if need be.




The paint is really the only issue. Were is the foam missing?


Have you thought about just sanding the entire boat or possibly sanding where the two colors meet and just have a wrap put on......


A wrap will cost you tons and you can make it look pretty cool for a lot less cash.
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:54 PM
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I dont see anything wrong with the last pic in post #6



The top cap and the bottom hull should not be seamed together.

The boat is designed to be separated if need be.




The paint is really the only issue. Were is the foam missing?


Have you thought about just sanding the entire boat or possibly sanding where the two colors meet and just have a wrap put on......


A wrap will cost you tons and you can make it look pretty cool for a lot less cash.
Looks like some questionable quality body work, and some crack repairs needed. I'm with Kyle on this........get the repairs handled, smooth out the surfaces, and throw a wrap on it.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:52 AM
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I dont see anything wrong with the last pic in post #6



The top cap and the bottom hull should not be seamed together.

The boat is designed to be separated if need be.




The paint is really the only issue. Were is the foam missing?


Have you thought about just sanding the entire boat or possibly sanding where the two colors meet and just have a wrap put on......


A wrap will cost you tons and you can make it look pretty cool for a lot less cash.
Here is a couple of pictures to clear up the missing foam(sealer tape).

Kyle, you don't think that these screws should go through the hull as well as the top deck?
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:45 PM
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Here is a couple of pictures to clear up the missing foam(sealer tape).

Kyle, you don't think that these screws should go through the hull as well as the top deck?
Ok are the circled screws in the center that could be holding on the rub rail cap that says Mastercraft on it?


The screws on your boat do NOT hold the top cap and the hull together. Your boat has rivets and you can see them in the pic just left and right of your circle. Those hold the cap on the hull.

The screws if not holding on the rail cover in the center on the back are probably added after to hold the rail on or something. I would not worry about it.
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