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PT 1999 ProStar 03-21-2013 08:56 AM

"True HP"
 
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Hello All - during my new boat search I was trying to decide between the Imor 5.7 or 6.0 and a well respected MasterCraft dealer (by most of us on ths forum) sent this email below regarding an independent study on "true HP" for the top 3 motor companies. (see the attachement) I found it very interesting and if this is something you've already seen sorry for the re-post!
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Hey Paul

Most Manufacturers overstate their HP dramatically, as you can see below from the CARB testing the true HP of each engine. That PCM your buddy has is really only 360HP, not 409 as they advertise. The horsepower of the Ilmor 5.7 is 320 vs 277 in PCM. All of our staff can see a dramatic difference in the performance of the ilmor vs indmar. Unfortunately, we are usually focuses on torque with extra ballast, not top end.

One of my employees is a big barefooter, and I was asking him about it. He said that with your size the Illmor would be really close to getting your 44MPH, but couldnít guarantee it. He did mention that all footers are using the 5.7 and he doesnít even know anyone with 6.0 Ilmor in MC. He said some will get the tower also, which helps with the start and reduces drag at top end, because it is pulling up. I checked with my rep and he said everyone he knows foots with 5.7 in Ilmor.

Theclarks1111 03-21-2013 09:01 AM

That is interesting. So the Indmar MCX that many of us have is only 308 HP, not 350 HP?

PT 1999 ProStar 03-21-2013 09:11 AM

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I guess so clark?? Here is the full attachment with website that didn't fully download on my first email.

east tx skier 03-21-2013 09:18 AM

Interesting. In the somewhat distant past, PCM has been known to understate hp, but not by much.

The 308 hp on the MCX is right in line with what I was told by another MC dealer about 5 or 6 years ago.

Theclarks1111 03-21-2013 09:21 AM

That's interesting stuff, I didn't think they would inflate the ratings by as much as 40 or 50 HP

east tx skier 03-21-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Theclarks1111 (Post 917787)
That's interesting stuff, I didn't think they would inflate the ratings by as much as 40 or 50 HP

Lots of things can affect a dyno. All I know is that this number was without the exhaust tips. No other info specific to the testing other than that. Take it for what it's worth. If you or anyone else has a lot of in depth knowledge of how these things work and how numbers can change based on tiny condition changes, you may be able to make yourself feel more or less comfortable with that figure.

I have seen dyno figures from older PCM GT-40 figures come out around 311 or 312. They are rated at 310.

A lot of this drop off might be due to the mandatory cats put on the boats in around 06 or so. But that's just speculation.

PT 1999 ProStar 03-21-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Theclarks1111 (Post 917787)
That's interesting stuff, I didn't think they would inflate the ratings by as much as 40 or 50 HP

It's all one big "gray area". I had another guy tell me that Ilmor actually has a higher HP than what they published. He said the reason is because if the true HP was stated then insuring the boats would be very difficult.......Who knows??? :rolleyes:

Theclarks1111 03-21-2013 09:35 AM

Well I guess if I'm actually at 308 HP, I'm over it! I am plenty happy with the MCX, even with 2500 lbs of ballast, it still performs very well.

I enjoyed seeing that information though...

east tx skier 03-21-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PT 1999 ProStar (Post 917789)
It's all one big "gray area". I had another guy tell me that Ilmor actually has a higher HP than what they published. He said the reason is because if the true HP was stated then insuring the boats would be very difficult.......Who knows??? :rolleyes:

My Allstate agent keeps offering to insure my boat. I keep reminding her that we tried that 10 years ago and that their stated HP to length formula makes it impossible.

PT 1999 ProStar 03-21-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by east tx skier (Post 917799)
My Allstate agent keeps offering to insure my boat. I keep reminding her that we tried that 10 years ago and that their stated HP to length formula makes it impossible.

This year was the first time AMICA agreed to insure my boat. The new one with a 6.0L go figure!!


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