View Full Version : Do all lakes have Core of Engineers
kycat2007
06-15-2006, 01:55 PM
I know in KY we have to abid by what the Corp says on what we can and can't do as it pertains to the land around the lake and docks. I was curious if all states have this or not. When I lived in Nashville I know Alan Jackson got into some trouble with the Core down there because he cleared his land all the way to lake. We have redline restrictions here in KY.
PendO
06-15-2006, 02:09 PM
http://www.usace.army.mil/public.html#Civil
"The Corps of Engineers is the Nation's largest provider of outdoor recreation, operating more than 2,500 recreation areas at 463 projects (mostly lakes) and leasing an additional 1,800 sites to State or local park and recreation authorities or private interests. The Corps hosts about 360 million visits a year at its lakes, beaches and other areas, and estimates that 25 million Americans (one in ten) visit a Corps project at least once a year. Supporting visitors to these recreation areas generates 600,000 jobs.
The Army Corps of Engineers is the steward of the lands and waters at Corps water resources projects.
Its Natural Resources Management Mission is to manage and conserve those natural resources, consistent with ecosystem management principles, while providing quality public outdoor recreation experiences to serve the needs of present and future generations. Our Rangers and park staff are our stewards and serve and support our visitors and the nation.
Since the vast majority of our recreation areas are located next to water, the Corps, in partnership with other agencies, is active in the National Water Safety Program. Visit this program's site for materials to teach and promote water safety at home or in the classroom, and for links to other water safety sites."
and this link is for your area wide office:
http://www.usace.army.mil/inet/functions/cw/cecwo/reg/division.htm
No not all lakes are corps controlled although many are. A lot of lakes are owned and operated by power companies and land use is directly controlled by them. My current lake in NC is controlled by the Corps but it is very lax. My property line is right on the water line, but forms have to be filed and permission given to be able to cut down trees and build structures. But that is not difficult.
My Parents have a place on Rough River in KY and my experience with the corps there is that they are jerks. We had a light that was 30 feet up in a tree to light our dock at night. The corps made us move it because it was found to be hanging 1 foot into their airspace. I don't even know how they found the light, much less determined that was violating their airspace.
M-Funf
06-15-2006, 02:13 PM
Some of our lakes are P.G.&E...
Cloaked
06-15-2006, 02:23 PM
TVA controls our waterways of the Tennessee River and associated lakes. Corp runs Centerhill LAke.
pendo gave an informative post on corps lakes
if they(the army corps) build them then they get to control them ya know
I think that every corps lake I know of has no constant level
some stay the same level more than others though
Greers Ferry is a C.O.E. lake. We (ski club) have a really good working relation with them, we name them on secondary insurance as well.
If they control a lake, they very much control the shoreline. Get caught cutting down a tree below the white line, your property to their shoreline merger, it cost you $1000 - $5000 per Tree. Last year a guy cut down 30, knew the fine and paid it, increased his property value with a view by a lot more than that; hence the increase in price of trees cut. But, what you do is wait for an ice storm, then you remove the bent trees.
djhuff
06-16-2006, 08:20 AM
If they control a lake, they very much control the shoreline. Get caught cutting down a tree below the white line, your property to their shoreline merger, it cost you $1000 - $5000 per Tree. Last year a guy cut down 30, knew the fine and paid it, increased his property value with a view by a lot more than that; hence the increase in price of trees cut. But, what you do is wait for an ice storm, then you remove the bent trees.
Some areas here, will fine the mess out of you for cutting down trees, then require you to re plant to stabilize the shore, and fine you for every day this is not done.
MJDore
06-16-2006, 09:44 AM
My parents live on a creek bed off a Corp lake in Nashville (Old Hickory) and every year they come out and check the creek bank and put a 'Corps of Engineer' sign along it...and every year my dad chucks it in the creek. :D
My experience with them has been varied. I know at Center Hill, though, those boys don't mess around. As I understand it, Alan Jackson gets fined every year for building that boat dock because new docks aren't allowed to be built along the shoreline UNLESS you're replacing an existing one. I remember when he did it he just decided he would keep the dock and pay the annual fine. No skin off his back.
CoFooter
06-16-2006, 12:28 PM
I know Arkansas has a lot of Corps lakes. We have land on one. I think in general the corps does a pretty good job of managing the shoreline and keeping the aesthetics of the lake intact. You go out on some non-corp lakes and they look like slums. A free for all along the shoreline where pretty much people do what they want - gets to looking pretty tacky. For that I appreciate the corps. Having said that, getting a new dock permit is a B***h. Gotta take the good with the bad.......