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richardsoncd
05-26-2006, 08:26 AM
This is a bit long....what's the angle?


Dear Candidate,

We will never ask you for bank name, bank account number, routing number, credit card, passwords, ssn number etc. If anyone asks for those on our behalf please do not give out this info. This is to ensure that you will not be the victim of an identity theft case.

Before we start you have to understand what our company is looking for and if you feel that this type of job is good for you follow the instructions below this introduction. If you have one free hour daily (not including weekends) you are welcome to join today. Our job is a flextime, flex-place opportunity designed to fit around your family's income and time needs. You can earn from $50,000 up to $200,000 a year (depends on our sales) and more after one year working with us. Our company can guarantee $5,500 every month income in your first year of work.

Here you have the description of this job in simple steps:

1. You agree and sign the contract, send us your full name and postal address.

2. In 4-5 days after you have agreed to work for us you will start to receive checks/money orders/cashier checks made on your name from our customers in U.S. and Canada. Our customers use hospital funds and the checks are always covered. The payments are made for our products and services which have already been delivered.

3. You cash the checks/money orders/cashier checks at your bank using your pre-established account.

4. You deduct the 10% commission from the total amount of the check or money order that you receive and cash.

5. You send the remaining 90% minus transfer fees to our company as per our instructions to one of our offices. We have offices in almost all of Europe; we will instruct you where to send the balance. This means that the funds will not always be sent to our headquarters in U.K. You will not make the transfer on our company name. One of our employees will be the receiver for the funds. The methods we use for transferring funds are: wire transfers, money transfers, checks and money orders. Depending on our needs we will instruct you to send the funds using one of those methods.

6. After one month has passed since you signed the contract you will receive your first salary.

IMED is a privately owned company founded in 1924. The business is based in London at the heart of the UK motorway network and has developed from its origins, producing surgical needles, into a major business servicing the global healthcare market.

Today, IMED is building on the company's strong tradition for product research and development and is developing into one of the UK's leading healthcare groups. The company has developed and markets products in the growing areas of sports medicine, spinal surgery and biomaterials and has an established international distribution base across Europe, America and the Far East.

We care to explain to you thoroughly the entire process that will possibly be the best job you will ever have. This job is possible because our company IMED has its headquarters in London, UK. As such we do not yet have stores or offices in the United States and Canada. Until we do we will always need representatives in the U.S. to take care of some financial matters. The problem we are facing is the time necessary for our company to clear the funds from checks, money orders and cashier checks paid by our customers from U.S. and Canada after they have received our products and/or services. It takes approximately 2 to 3 weeks including shipping to clear these checks in Europe. We need to clear the checks, money orders and cashier checks inside U.S. and then have the funds transferred to our company in U.K. by other means. This is where you can help us. It would speed up the process tenfold. We have already made a signed agreement with the U.S. officials and we are paying all the necessary taxes for our business. We will also send you a 1099 Form for tax deduction on your part on the date you will receive your first salary. This job is official and legal according to the U.S. legislation as it is today.

The process itself involves answering e-mails a couple of times per day and going to a bank. This job does not require any kind of experience. It only requires access to the Internet and knowledge to send e-mails. First step in this job is for you to wait at home for checks/money orders/cashier checks sent by our American and Canadian customers on your name as per our instructions. For this to be possible we need your basic personal info such as full name and full address.

After you receive the checks/money orders/cashier checks you will have to go to the bank to cash them. The most important objective is for you to speed up the cashing process in any way possible. Keep in mind that we have already delivered our products and we need to get the funds to maintain our cash flow. We are covering you financially should any problems arise up to the full amounts on the checks you processed. There is no need for a special bank account to make this happen and creating a new account will slow down the process. After you have cash in hand you will have to contact us at the same e-mail address and then you will receive additional instructions on how to send the money to us. We cannot provide a phone number yet because we have many collaborators and momentarily we lack the technical support. For basic information we will have to use e-mails. Phone support is only for more sensitive issues that might appear after signing the contract. We will support any fees involved from receiving, cashing and transferring the money to our company. Your commission and salary are not subject to any fee deduction. The 10% off of each check/money order/cashier check and the monthly $900 are your net income.

We do make background research on all the international customers before we sell our products. We also verify the checks for funds availability before it arrives to you. In an outstanding case of any problem, we offer a full guarantee to cover the fees and the whole amount on any check. This way you can feel absolutely protected and safe.

To begin this job we need your FULL NAME (IMPORTANT: Enter your business name instead if you want to use it, we cannot change it later) AND ADDRESS (your postal address) via email for payments that will be mailed (shipped) to you and a FAX or a scanned copy (jpeg/jpg only) of your signed contract via e-mail. Please follow these instructions exactly; everything that is written in red is a must:

1. Fill in the following information and send it to us by e-mail:
E-mail address:
Full name:
Postal Address:
City, State, Zip code:
Phone number:

2. Fill in the empty fields in the contract at paragraph 1.2, sign it and send it to us.


To do that you have the following options:

a. Fill in the empty fields inside the contract, send it by e-mail and the last page print it, sign it and send it by fax.

b. Fill in the empty fields in the contract, then print and sign the last page, scan it or take a digital photo (jpeg/jpg only) and send the whole contract back by e-mail.

c. Fill in the empty fields inside the contract, print the whole contract, sign the last page and send everything through fax.

d. In case the e-mails you send to us bounce back we apologize. Our e-mails are sometimes full because of incoming e-mails so please send all the information by fax.

IMPORTANT: Please use your computer or typewriter to fill in the empty fields inside the contract. If that is not possible please fill in by hand but legible. After you fill in the contract complete the same info below and send it to us by e-mail.

IMPORTANT:

-You have to be at least 21 years old.

-You have to be an American citizen, legal resident or immigrant in U.S.

-You must have an existing active U.S. bank account

Due to the fact that we receive tens of faxes per day please confirm that you have done so and also send your personal info that you filled in the contract via e-mail.

In order to start this job, your response is expected today and also your signature (last page of contract signed). Reply at this e-mail address with the subject: AGREED WITH ALL TERMS OF THE REPRESENTATIVE CONTRACT. Please see attachment for the CONTRACT.

Please reply here if you have any questions. This is the e-mail address we use for receiving contracts. Thank you and we hope to collaborate with you as soon as possible,



Mike Perkins

Administrative Director

International Med

sizzler
05-26-2006, 08:30 AM
if something seems too good to be true......it normally is :cool:

Leroy
05-26-2006, 08:49 AM
Big time Scam.


You are sending them money for a month before you receive anything, money send to person not company, they are hoping they can get probably a week or two out of this before things go sour. Their source of checks is from a variety of sources to add confusion.

JimN
05-26-2006, 09:02 AM
Sounds almost like money laundering. If someone waited for their check(s) to clear before sending payment, fine, but I would bet that it goes against their rules.

Can you say SCAM!

richardsoncd
05-26-2006, 09:18 AM
How do they get e-mail addresses, and I wonder if gmail knows about this? I am just tired of getting this crap in my inbox. I know it's a scam but just couldn't figure the angle...one of the many reasons I am a TMC member.

dapicatti
05-26-2006, 09:38 AM
My wife is a manager of a bank....and says "THIS IS A SCAM--RUN AWAY FROM IT".
She sees this stuff every day, and the poor guy who ends up cashing the checks that later bounce remains responsible for the money....usually it is people who cannot afford to take this loss. The checks look legitimate, however there is so much fraud out there you cannot often tell what is real or not. Her bank places a 10 day hold (working days) on these checks and more times than not they bounce.

Run away......

gemco
05-26-2006, 09:44 AM
Wake up and smell the coffee!! Santa Claus is coming!!!! Scam Scam Scam!!!!!!!!!!!

gemco
05-26-2006, 09:46 AM
Wake up and smell the coffee!! Santa Claus is coming!!!! Scam Scam Scam!!!!!!!!!!! :

mbeach
05-26-2006, 09:49 AM
if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then you reasonably can conclude within the 95% confidence interval that it is probably a SCAM

bcampbe7
05-26-2006, 10:01 AM
How do they get e-mail addresses, and I wonder if gmail knows about this? I am just tired of getting this crap in my inbox. I know it's a scam but just couldn't figure the angle...one of the many reasons I am a TMC member.

Have you ever used your gmail email to sign-up for anything, or posted your email address in any open forum such as TMC?
If so, that is how they got it.

jake
05-26-2006, 10:49 AM
I work in the anti-money laundering and fraud prevention world with large financial institutions as a consultant. I see two possible angles here.

1. Check kiting. They'll send you a check, you cash it and wire/ACH the money to them. The check bounces, but only after taking 3 days or so to route through the clearing system, by which time you've already sent them a wire, which is as good as handing them your cash. Check kiting is an old scam, this is a new twist on it. Basically, you're covering the check with your own funds, and when it bounces you're SOL.

2. As JimN pointed out, it could be a money laundering scam, but I highly doubt it. I doubt any successful criminal (ie one with a bunch of money to launder) would be dumb enough to solicit help from unknown individuals. Most money laundering these days is done through highly complex networks of seemingly legitimate businesses and/or trade finance related transactions such as import/export letters of credit.

As everyone else said, it's definitely a scam.

Ryan
05-26-2006, 10:53 AM
I bet the whole check concept is be bogus. They could be trying to just link your name (imbeded in your email) and your address for the first steps in identity theft.

JimN
05-26-2006, 11:08 AM
A lot of laundering is done by car dealers, whether they are aware or not, too. Another dealer here in Milwaukee was nailed for selling an Escalade to an undercover cop who was posing as a drug dealer and actually told the dealer that he got the money illegally. Then, there's the IRS form 8300, for any cash transactions over $10,000.

LakePirate
05-26-2006, 11:17 AM
This is probably the same guy that sells MCs on Ebay for 3500 bucks.

Good call on the Kiting Jake. That was my first thought after reading.