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Smitty
10-08-2004, 05:07 PM
Has anyone heard about this:
Brunswick/Mastercraft (http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=33372&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

I think it's a bunch of crap, but makes for interesting coversation.

Farmer Ted
10-08-2004, 05:39 PM
Mastercraft isn’t a publicly traded company and a search of Brunswick’s webpage didn’t turn up anything. Double checking Brunswick’s page at http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=97828&p=irol-sec
Came up blank as well.


Just rumors.

Now if and when MC does go public, that would be something to worry about. Brunswick has a market cap of $4.6 billion and $10 billion in sales worldwide. It would be difficult to resist a take over from a corporation that large.


But hey *** do I know.

I’m not an investment banker, I only play one on TV.


T

paulphillipson
10-08-2004, 06:01 PM
Buried in teh motley diatribe on the wakeboard site: http://www.pouschinecook.com/mastercraft.htm#top

flyinryn
10-08-2004, 06:30 PM
I Really Dont Want To Hear Stuff Like That.
Specially If They Start Putting The Mercs Into These Boats.

Than We Will Be On The Same Level As The Malibu's.

H20skeefreek
10-08-2004, 06:38 PM
I Really Dont Want To Hear Stuff Like That.
Specially If They Start Putting The Mercs Into These Boats.

Than We Will Be On The Same Level As The Malibu's.


there is not a peice of solid fact, or even weak fact for that matter on that website. Lot's not get into the business of speculation and rumor, and KILL THIS THREAD.

If something like that happens we will deal with it at the time.

Farmer Ted
10-08-2004, 07:38 PM
Sheds a little more light on the subject,

http://www.pouschinecook.com/case_study.htm

Leroy
10-09-2004, 12:00 AM
Very interesting reading, at least with this much public knowledge you know there is indeed something going on...if it lead to somthing. Actually looks like a decent match with Brunswick, but don't think the Merc in on par with the Indmar for this type of boat.

NeilM
10-09-2004, 12:01 AM
Anything's possible, I suppose. Brunswick's been buying and selling boat companies like crazy. I would have thought they would keep a little lower profile until after the Mercury / Yamaha powerhead issue was settled. Funny how Brunswick charges Yamaha with dumping, but then goes for an injunction when Yamaha says it's going to raise its powerhead prices by 98% (4 stroke Merc powerheads are built by Yamaha)..

Management companies make their money by buying undervalued/ undercapitalized companies, injecting some cash and some know-how, getting it profitable, and then selling it.

NeilM
10-18-2004, 11:08 AM
' goes without saying that Genmar doesn't think much of Brunswick's antics of late...


Jacobs attacks Mercury again


Friday October 15, 2004


MINNEAPOLIS – Genmar Holdings, Inc. chairman and CEO Irwin L. Jacobs, has again weighed into the engine-pricing dispute between Mercury Marine and Yamaha Motor Corp. Ltd., attacking Mercury’s position on several fronts in a letter yesterday addressed to Genmar dealers and U.S. boat manufacturers.

Jacobs accused Mercury of dishonesty and said the outboard engine manufacturer would do, “Whatever it takes to increase their own profits, even if it means hurting or possibly destroying an industry that has been declining for years.”

Jacobs said Mercury was attempting to “dupe the International Trade Commission into substantially raising engine prices,” after Mercury helped initiate the anti-dumping investigation of Japanese outboard engine manufacturers undertaken by the U.S. Department of Commerce earlier this year.

Yamaha subsequently informed Brunswick Corp. – Mercury Marine’s parent company – that it would cease delivery of the 80 – 115 HP powerheads it sold to Brunswick, unless the company agreed to a 91.6-percent price increase.

Brunswick responded by filing an anticipatory breach of contract lawsuit in the U.S. District Court, Eastern Court of Wisconsin, against Yamaha Motor Co. Ltd., attempting to stop the increase and force Yamaha to continue selling the powerheads at current prices.

The court recently ordered the parties to settle the dispute through a process of arbitration – which is ongoing. But Jacobs believes Mercury’s actions with regard to Yamaha constitute a double standard.

“Mercury is attempting to publicly and legally condemn Yamaha for ‘dumping’ outboard engines in the U.S., while at the same time in their neighborhood court in Green Bay, they are attempting to mislead their friendly local court by asking the court to order Yamaha to sell them four-stroke engine heads at a price they complained to the Department of Commerce is too cheap, and to the court in Green Bay for the same products, they say is too expensive,” Jacobs wrote. “It is simply an illogical and untenable position to take.”

Jacobs also claimed Mercury misled the government by asking the Department of Commerce to help save the jobs of Mercury’s employees in the United States with its investigation, while at the same time “building a new engine factory in China that will most likely replace workers in the future at Mercury’s factory in Fond du Lac, Wis.”

He then went on to allege, as proof of Brunswick’s plans to control the boat building and engine industry in the U.S., that within the past 60 days Brunswick had “approached Genmar to ask if we would be interested in selling our saltwater boat group to them. Suffice it to say we have no interest now or anytime in the future to sell our saltwater boat companies to Brunswick,” Jacobs wrote.

Contacted this morning by telephone, Mercury said it would issue a response on the matter in the near future.