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jrcarte78
04-21-2006, 06:30 PM
We have found a house close to the lake on a nice chunk of land. It meets all of our needs except 1--no detached shop with an area to store the MC. I definitely want something like this and feel the easiest and most cost effective is a premanufactured/engineered steel building. I've googled this(see below) and it seems there are a lot of companies that deal in these type of buildings. Does anyone have any experience with any particular manufacturer of these? Anything anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.

:)

J.R.

Olympia (http://www.olympiabuildings.com/?refer=adwords&gclid=CKes4sX0voQCFTweJAodVj88NQ)

General Steel (http://www.gensteel.com)

Premier Steel (http://www.premiersteel.org/)

mplv
04-21-2006, 08:54 PM
dont cut yourself short by not getting some block quotes too, you may be suprised

TMCNo1
04-21-2006, 08:58 PM
Varco-Pruden Metal Buildings!

Upper Michigan Prostar190
04-21-2006, 10:20 PM
What do those cost in relation to a block building?? Do they last? :confused:

TMCNo1
04-21-2006, 10:39 PM
What do those cost in relation to a block building?? Do they last? :confused:


Most have full line of colors and accessories, doors, windows, canopies, roof extensions, lean-to's, different insulation value options, etc. Cost is normally about 85%, erection time is 65% after slab is cured and painted finishes are now 30 year guarantee on most! A 40"X60", 4 to 6 week delivery to site average.

SkiDog
04-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Dang Harold, I'm gonna hire you as a salesman for MY company! I happen to be a dealer for "Goldseal" brand metal buildings. My company sales and erects what we feel are the best metal buildings on the market today. As a testament to our buildings, Hurricane Charlie that hit Punta Gorda Fla. a couple of years ago, Goldseal had THE ONLY BUILDINGS LEFT STANDING in the industrial zone of that city. As far as the price goes, you can expect to spend in the neighborhood of $25 - $35.00 per square foot. That is a good ballpark price for a completely finished building with lights, electrical plugs, concrete, doors, ect. It really depends on what you want! I personally have a 40'X80' with 3 10'
X10' roll up doors and 5 entry doors. However, I STRONGLY suggest that you use 12' x 12' rollups especially if you have a tower on your boat. As I said, I am an authorized Goldseal dealer, and I can sell ANYWHERE in the continental US. I would be happy to give you a quote.
Wildsmith Construction Co., Inc. Brunswick, Ga. PM me for a phone #.

TMCNo1
04-22-2006, 03:43 PM
I worked for Varco-Pruden for 13 years as a Sales Draftsman/Draftsman/Drafting Dept. Chief Draftsman/Erection Specialist/Trouble Shooter. They wanted me and Lynn to move to Corp. HDQ. in Memphis TN in 1978 to be Corp. Chief Draftsman and was forcing me to accept the job without telling me what the pay, benefits, etc. was and instead I quit and went into business for myself. They told me that if I accepted the job "We Own You" and it didn't set too well with me. I did not make a bad choice after I found out what happened to the guy from Calif. that ultimately did take the position.

SkiDog
04-22-2006, 07:19 PM
With that being said, why in the hell did you give out that name on this board!?!?!?!?! :confused:

SkiDog
04-22-2006, 07:46 PM
You can check out my metal building co. but going to :
www.gold-seal.com

TMCNo1
04-22-2006, 10:11 PM
Good product, the people sucked and they did me a favor!!!!!!!!!

jimmer2880
04-24-2006, 09:06 AM
I think a lot of it depends on who's doing the labor. I just researched this a bit, and was about to pull the switch on buying a kit when I talked to my brother (a GC who lives a couple hours away). Since I'm doing all the labor except for the masonary/concrete and needed a footer for retaining walls, a Steel roof, vinyl siding actually came in about $1,000 cheaper than an all steel building.

However, I will say that I will have much more labor hours in this puppy than if I went all-steel.

SkiDog
04-24-2006, 04:15 PM
Would you like me to send you a color brochure on our steel buildings? BTW, stay away from people like General Steel. They are in the market for the do it yourselfers, and really know how to take advantage of their customers who don't really know the steel buildings and just how they go together. They will KILL you when you are short on some parts that you didn't know you needed in the first place when you get the bill for them. I have heard this from a number of people that have ordered from them. I promise that's not a sales pitch, just a warning. Good luck with whatever you decide to do! Eddie

jrcarte78
04-24-2006, 05:17 PM
Thanks for all the info guys.... It's greatly appreciated....

No1--Only you could have a job titled "Erection Specialist" :D

"Huh Huh... He said erection"(Best Butthead impersonation) :D

Sorry, back on track, SkiDog--that would be awesome if you could send me some info. I'll send you a PM with all my info.

TMCNo1
04-24-2006, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=jrcarte78]Thanks for all the info guys.... It's greatly appreciated....

No1--Only you could have a job titled "Erection Specialist" :D



Everybody is a specialist these days! Somebody had to do it and I got paid for it! :eek:

Leroy
04-24-2006, 06:03 PM
Interesting thread now! The guy were I store my boat now is selling out to a developer and building a new garage. He is going to build a new garage and this time is going to subdivide it and sell garage units. He calls them garage condos. I'm looking at that seriously as I would like to have a 20x40 or so enviromental controlled garage near the lake.

AirJunky
04-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Hey Leroy,
Funny you should bring those garage condos up. A Company started selling that concept here in the last couple of years. Cost starts at $55k for a 16'x48' unit.
http://www.garagetown.com/

I can't say I'm sold on the idea, but maybe intrigued.

SkiDog
04-24-2006, 06:12 PM
Leroy, thats what YOU should do!!!!!!!!!!! Build the building, rent out spaces, and let the tennents pay for YOUR space! You wouldn't believe how inexpensive it is to do this! I'll send you some brochures too if you want.

jrcarte78
04-24-2006, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE=jrcarte78]Thanks for all the info guys.... It's greatly appreciated....

No1--Only you could have a job titled "Erection Specialist" :D



Everybody is a specialist these days! Somebody had to do it and I got paid for it! :eek:

:uglyhamme

SkiDog
04-24-2006, 06:23 PM
Hey Leroy,
Funny you should bring those garage condos up. A Company started selling that concept here in the last couple of years. Cost starts at $55k for a 16'x48' unit.
http://www.garagetown.com/

I can't say I'm sold on the idea, but maybe intrigued.


Bill, I just checked out their website, and I gotta admit, thats a cool thing. If he's selling them for that price then hes making a little money!
I think it's a great concept!

Leroy
04-24-2006, 06:33 PM
My friend is planning ~8-12 condos and with land looks like a $300-$400k investment. He just plays with stuff like this all the time......I would like to own one of the garages like this. His investment around 30-40k each, guess he will try to sell around $50k each, maybe he does it at cost for friends. ;) This really is a pretty interesting investment.....I can imagine a lot of people buying a garage like this or splitting it with couple of people.

AirJunky
04-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Yea, I agree, he's making some serious coin on these! A building of similar size can't be more than $20k or so. The land itself in the city could easily ould be far more. But outside of town it would be easy to find for the remainder.

My question is would the value appreciate like a home or a condo would? Or will they depreciate like a mobil home can? Either scenario would make it a questionable investment.

SkiDog
04-24-2006, 07:44 PM
Being in the building business, I would think that the market on these would appreciate instead of depreciate, simply because of land values are not going down in price. I have never really considered building a conditioned space condo for storage units - untill now! Maybe this is something I need to investigate.(In my spare time. HA HA) At least me being a dealer for a metal building manufacturer, I could get it at a better price than John Q. Customer.

TMCNo1
04-24-2006, 07:53 PM
Being in the building business, I would think that the market on these would appreciate instead of depreciate, simply because of land values are not going down in price. I have never really considered building a conditioned space condo for storage units - untill now! Maybe this is something I need to investigate.(In my spare time. HA HA) At least me being a dealer for a metal building manufacturer, I could get it at a better price than John Q. Customer.


They should appreciate, cause the ain't making any more land last time I heard. How about putting some on the MOON, I'll pay to get you there!

AirJunky
04-24-2006, 07:57 PM
They should appreciate, cause the ain't making any more land last time I heard. How about putting some on the MOON, I'll pay to get you there!
Yea, but now your talking about the land value appreciating. And when you buy something like at Garagetown, your really just getting the building & it's footprint.
I do know the Garagetown here in Liberty Lake has still some vacancies (after a year) and someone has signs right out front posting similar units for rent. I should stop by & check them out.

SkiDog
05-01-2006, 08:56 PM
We have found a house close to the lake on a nice chunk of land. It meets all of our needs except 1--no detached shop with an area to store the MC. I definitely want something like this and feel the easiest and most cost effective is a premanufactured/engineered steel building. I've googled this(see below) and it seems there are a lot of companies that deal in these type of buildings. Does anyone have any experience with any particular manufacturer of these? Anything anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated.

:)

J.R.

Olympia (http://www.olympiabuildings.com/?refer=adwords&gclid=CKes4sX0voQCFTweJAodVj88NQ)

General Steel (http://www.gensteel.com)

Premier Steel (http://www.premiersteel.org/)



I just checked on a standard 50' x 100' steel building from General Steel Buildings and the price was right at $53,990.00. The price for one of my buildings is around $37,500.00 Now both of these prices do NOT include ANY doors, windows, rollup doors, ect. This is just a base price, something to go on. I hope you got my brochures. Let me know.