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weskix4
04-13-2006, 09:28 PM
This is my first post so be gentle...just kidding. I am looking for advice regarding the purchase of a "new to me" Prostar 190. A little background about my family and myself. We are all recreation skiers who more than likely will not enter a tourny in this lifetime, but we love skiing behind the best ski boat in the world...MC of course. Our last boat was a 1988 Prostar 190 that we loved, but it got too small for the family. We are looking to buy a 1995-1997 or 2000-2003 190. My wife and I loved the wake behind the '88 and I'm looking for that nice "soft" wake again. By all accounts that I have been able to read on this board it sounds like the hull from 95-97 would be the right choice. But, I really can't get a feel for the 2000-2003 hull in comparison to the 95-97. Clearly there are advantages to the newer boat due to the Perfect Pass being more of a standard plus locker, etc., but they are at the top of my price range and I will want to add a tower for the kids. My priority is a top of the line slalom wake, but it will need to wakeboard and kneeboard, and barefoot with a boom off the side. Please help. I have considered the 205 but I'm not real big on the open bow boats. Also, I skied behind a 1993 205 and for an open bow it had a nice wake but I thought my 88 190 was a lot better...maybe I was just loving my boat too much. If I'm wrong about the 205 please let me know...thanks.

88 PS190
04-13-2006, 09:32 PM
try a 197.... its the same hull as a 190, with the open bow ( i know not your fav. but adds space)

André
04-13-2006, 09:36 PM
Welcome to the board!
Both are great boats but not sure if they will fit your family, skis,wakeboards,boom,kneeboards,vests,wet suits,ropes and more things for the day?
Do you live on a lake or have a lake house?
...and you don't want an O.B.?

BrianM
04-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Well I just traded my '88 for a '97 in November and couldn't be happier. That being said the boat really does not have all that much more room inside. It is a little wider and has a larger cockpit but it is definitely not a huge difference. The reason I traded up were for the newer hull (no spray) and styling along with EFI.

The closed bow is all I need since it is just my wife and I and we do 95% of our skiing on a private lake off of the dock. It really sounds like you should seriously consider a '95 or older 205. Would give you substantially more room for the family especially with a tower.

Also keep in mind that the 2000 Prostar 190 is a different hull than the 2001 -2003.

Here is another thought. How about going to an open bow Sportstar or a Prostar 195? Both are an open bow version of the 95-97 190 hull that were built in 1998 to I believe 2001(someone correct me if I am wrong on the year of those models)? Would give you more room but would still give you the same feel driving and skiing.

erkoehler
04-14-2006, 12:00 AM
Alot of the advice that is given will depend on whether or not you live on a lake. If you are able to ski and store equipment on your dock, then a 190 would be great. However, if you need to pack all equipment, and people into the boat for the day, you'll definetly love the extra space of a 205 or 197.

With that being said, I think a 2002 PS 197 would fit the bill quite nicely. You get the awesome wake of a 190 with the added benefit of an open bow.

Some say the non-hooked hull of 2002 didn't provide as nice of a slalom wake, but you will love the added speed for barefooting.

I wouldn't worry about the versions of PP if you decided to go with a mid-90's boat, as the chips can always be updated or changed out to fit your needs.

As far as towers go, you will have an easier time finding one already on a 197 since they were an option from the factory. That being said, if you add one to a 90's era boat, be sure that you use a large enough backing plate to spread the load on a greater area of the gunnel.

92 190 PS
04-14-2006, 09:19 AM
Go the 197 route. Not sure what the first year was, but this is the best boat out there for all around 3 event skiing. Open bow gives you more flexibiltiy with the family and the smaller hull doesn't sacrifice wakes. Would reccomend a mini tower if you go with a tower.

92 190 PS
04-14-2006, 09:29 AM
This should give you an idea of where you'd be on a 2000 195...Looks like you're in the $20,000 to $25,000 range...

Here is a link with several pictures that would give you a good perspective on the amount of space.
http://www.slalomshop.com/preowned/listings/l0063.shtml

http://www.basslakeboatrentals.com/boatsforsale.html

3event
04-14-2006, 10:20 AM
My biased opinion (owner 02 PS197) is that if you are considering 00-03 you might as well look closely at the 197. The '03 will have the best hull on the water for slalom as ERK says. I am conflicted over whether I might have the glasswork done to update my 02 hull, but it is FAST. 48+ with the Predator engine.

You've got lots of great choices and great advice from the knowledgeable gang on here. Pick a few alternatives you could live with, rank by preference, and see what good deals you can find. It might be best not to be stuck on 1 specific boat/year. Don't move too slow, though, the season is heating up soon!

baedriver
04-14-2006, 10:28 AM
The 197 I just got one and my wife and I love it plenty of room and a sweet wake. We had seven in the boat last night and did not feel crowded. Good luck with the search

VTJC
04-14-2006, 10:37 AM
Weskix4,

I also had an 88 ‘Powerslot’ 190 that I loved, until the barn collapsed on it after a great snow year. It was replaced by a 98 Moomba Boomerang, then that was replaced by my current 99 MC Sportstar. I like you, don’t like open bow ski boats. Closed bow certainly offer allot of storage space under the bow and are safer in my opinion. They don’t put seats on the hood of a car for a reason! I enjoy the newer EFI engine, Perfect Pass and styling. However the SportStar dash does look old.

Boats I would look for are:
95-97 Prostar
98-03 SportStar/19Skier Closedbow, 98 had a 305 EFI TBI 99+ standard engine was 350 EFI TBI 310hp(aka Predator) used in MC’s through 04 model year. The SportStar(95-97 Prostar 190 hull) was also packaged for a few years with a tower as the X5, in both closed and open bow versions. So you could look for one of them.
or
01+ Prostar 190’s

In 2000, the Sportstar open bow became the Prostar 195.
Here are some urls of SportStar Threads:
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=4281
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=1893
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2379

Here are some nice boats I have scene lately on eBay:
1995 190: http://cgi.ebay.com/Mastercraft-Pro-Star-190_W0QQitemZ4630170860QQcategoryZ63686QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
2002 19 Skier: http://cgi.ebay.com/MasterCraft-Ski-Wakeboard-Boat_W0QQitemZ4630160614QQcategoryZ63686QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem
2001 19 Skier: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4627289330

Good luck in the boat search! I enjoyed helping a friend find a closed bow MC lately, he ended up a 98 SportStar with an LT-1 Engine.

Jamie

weskix4
04-14-2006, 11:07 AM
Wow, thanks for all of the great feedback. I will have to rethink the open-bow bias that I have, but skiing with friends who have open-bow tourny boats I have not been real excited about having kids riding upfront while I was driving. I guess if you are hanging out resting the extra seat space would be nice. Most of our skiing will be done on a private lake or off of a houseboat so storage will not be the big concern. I just really wanted a world class slalom wake as compared to my 1988 190 and I knew this was the place to get the "real world" feedback...thanks. One quick question, is there a big difference between the 195 and 197?

east tx skier
04-14-2006, 11:34 AM
They are different hulls. The 195 is the 95--97 ProStar hull with the open bow cut into it. The 197 is the newer hull.

Just for the sake of reference, here's a quick hull timeline. I started with 91 because that's the first new one after the one you've already owned.

Prostar 190
91--94
95--97
98--2000
2001--2002
2002 Tournament Team, 2003--Present (190/197)

Prostar 205
92--95
96--2000

19 Skier/Sportstar
1998--2002

Prostar 195
1999--2001

6ballsisall
04-14-2006, 12:40 PM
I've got a 95' and love it. Prior I had an 86' which I believe is the same hull and beam as your 88' is. I noticed a significant improvement in storage space and overall room in the 95'. Secondly, the 95' doesn't put off spray even for very shortline skiers, and what I really like is EFI.
We'd like open bow ourselves but I have to say you do loose out of some valueable storage space in the open bow when comparing a 205 to a 190.

Footin
04-14-2006, 06:58 PM
I have been very happy with my 94 205 for the last year; however, my next machine will be a 197 or X-7 (hopefully in a year or two).

BrianM
04-15-2006, 10:53 AM
Most of our skiing will be done on a private lake or off of a houseboat so storage will not be the big concern. I just really wanted a world class slalom wake as compared to my 1988 190 and I knew this was the place to get the "real world" feedback...thanks. One quick question, is there a big difference between the 195 and 197?

If you mostly ski on a private lake or off of a houseboat then go ahead and get the closed bow. If you want to spend a little less money the 95-97 Prostar 190 is an awsome choice. If you can crack the nut that a 2001 and up 190 would cost then that is an excellent choice as well.

Long live the closed bow ski boat!!

David4MCSammyDuvall
04-16-2006, 11:46 AM
Welcome ! My first boat was 1988 MasterCraft ProStar 190 with PowerSlot. Loved the boat. Had to sell it when moving to a different state. I bought 1995 MasterCraft ProStar 190 Sammy Duvall two years ago. No open bow. Can't have open bow due I'm deaf. Can't have deaf friends sitting in front and talking with their hands while I'm driving. My 1995 model is much wider than 1988. Lots of storage space. The wake is almost same as 1988 but it has more spray on the sides. And the most important is the price of the boat. I can't afford more than $20,000.00 boat or even a 40 or 50 or 100 thousand dollars MC boats. Bought my 1995 MC Sammy Duvall with 90 hours on it for $ 15,000.00. :D

c640947
04-16-2006, 01:18 PM
I have a 95 190 for sale with a tower and a barefoot boom if you decide to go that route...... http://andrewdavis.tigerboatdocks.com