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6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 06:55 PM
Doc told me I have to have surgery this Thursday and I'll be unavailable for watter playing for a couple weeks if not longer. :mad: No spring skiing for me :noface: :cry:

erkoehler
03-21-2006, 06:56 PM
WHAT!!!!!

You going to make Mania?

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 06:57 PM
WHAT!!!!!

You going to make Mania?

I sure hope so, that might be close to my first time in the water. Unless I can "fool" the doctor :D oh, and the wife :rolleyes:

erkoehler
03-21-2006, 07:00 PM
Otherwise, you can be the DD.....designated driver during the day and designated drinker at night :)

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 07:01 PM
Otherwise, you can be the DD.....designated driver during the day and designated drinker at night :)

That does have a nice ring to it doesnt it. Give me enough beers and some percocet and you might see a Prostar 190 running the course.....not thru the boat gates either :D

LakePirate
03-21-2006, 07:24 PM
Dude that sucks. Why couldn't good ol' doc figured that out 3 weeks ago.....unless this is a recent issue

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 07:26 PM
Dude that sucks. Why couldn't good ol' doc figured that out 3 weeks ago.....unless this is a recent issue


Lovely insurance companies.....go see your primary doctor, go thru all that BS so you can see a specialist whom you should have seen in the first place............... the usualy Insurance run around :rolleyes:

LakePirate
03-21-2006, 07:32 PM
Did I mention that I hate health care???

Not trying to offend any Docs on here but it is ridiculous.

I really love this new level of health that they all seem to promote

Oh your injury is fine

But Doc I can't do what I could do before the accident

Oh your injury is fine


This level of acceptable that Docs have is no where near what I consider acceptable.

Sorry for the rant

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Did I mention that I hate health care???

Not trying to offend any Docs on here but it is ridiculous.

I really love this new level of health that they all seem to promote

Oh your injury is fine

But Doc I can't do what I could do before the accident

Oh your injury is fine


This level of acceptable that Docs have is no where near what I consider acceptable.

Sorry for the rant

I hear you there. HOwever, I don't think its so much the docs as it is health care companies. The BS you go thru with them after paying good money out of your salary sucks! Insurance companies must have the best attorneys in the world, they think of every loop hole out there and find every way possible to "sell" you the policy and then bend you over when you need the coverage. And they don't even provide Vaseline!!! Oh chit, now I feel my blood pressure going up......

LakePirate
03-21-2006, 07:54 PM
While I agree to that

The "Don't do it if it hurts" treatment is bunk.

Trust me I got pulled off of an operating table before my shoulder surgery because I was out of network and they wouldn't approve it, even though I had reached my deductible. Then a week later they approved it. I hate insurance companies.

*Disclaimer*
No offense to any insurance agents on the board.

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 08:02 PM
Is it something you can talk about? Ligaments etc... Maybe some walking wounded will have some solid advice here. Chances are I have already ruptured, torn or broken mine! ;)

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Nothing to hide. They found a slightly smaller than golf ball sized lump/growth on my lower back. They think it's just something funky andnothing serious but want to remove it asap. Probably nothing... However, it was wierd going thru the pre-patient check in today. Do you have a will? Do you have life insurance? Jeez!!! :rolleyes:

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 08:10 PM
Obviously close enough to some other areas to cause the layup? I am sure all is well but one thing I have learned is that second and third opinions are invaluable! Treatments can vary and often the recovery times also vary as a result. Early and often is a good motto. I am sure you have already consulted a few specialists and the delay is the result. Take care and keep us posted! You will have a new scar, create a spectacular story to go with it! :D

JEREMY79
03-21-2006, 08:12 PM
You will have a new scar, create a spectacular story to go with it! :D


I have some crazy scars and even better storys.

M-Funf
03-21-2006, 08:13 PM
Did they already biopsy it? If it's benign, you could just leave it until after spring skiing :rolleyes:


[off topic sidebar]
FWIW, I despise managed health care. My father is a Kaiser member. He had a TIA or a small stroke last Friday and sat in the ER waiting for a CT scan for 2+ hours :eek: Of course, I was running around the ER :woohoo: to get somebody's attention...

Luckily, everything was O.K., but if it hadn't been, they would have gotten an earfull from me...
[back on topic]

Good Luck!!! We'll be thinkin' about ya!

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Not here Jeremy! However a new thread would be cool! Show us your scars!!!!

JEREMY79
03-21-2006, 08:15 PM
Sorry dude, Not my kind of thing :D

stevo137
03-21-2006, 08:15 PM
Jeff, speedy recovery my friend! You'll be on the water in no time.
Scars aint nothin' man. ;)

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Did they already biopsy it? If it's benign, you could just leave it until after spring skiing :rolleyes:


[off topic sidebar]
FWIW, I despise managed health care. My father is a Kaiser member. He had a TIA or a small stroke last Friday and sat in the ER waiting for a CT scan for 2+ hours :eek: Of course, I was running around the ER :woohoo: to get somebody's attention...

Luckily, everything was O.K., but if it hadn't been, they would have gotten an earfull from me...
[back on topic]

Good Luck!!! We'll be thinkin' about ya!

No biopsy, the are just going after it on Thursday and putting an end to it. At first he was talking tumors, cancer...... but then he backed off saying it was probably nothing. I am trying to just play it cool, if it is bad theres nothing I can do about it now except get rid of it. He did get pretty mad at me when i asked if it could wait till fall to take care of :D

I hear you about healhcare, I have Cigna, they absolutely suck!!!!!!!!!

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Jeff make sure you get enough opinions! You will be suprised and can only gain from the opinions! ;) No biopsy, the are just going after it on Thursday and putting an end to it. At first he was talking tumors, cancer...... but then he backed off saying it was probably nothing. I am trying to just play it cool, if it is bad theres nothing I can do about it now except get rid of it. He did get pretty mad at me when i asked if it could wait till fall to take care of :D

I hear you about healhcare, I have Cigna, they absolutely suck!!!!!!!!!

LakePirate
03-21-2006, 08:30 PM
Jeffy - on a serious note..take care of this thing. I am sure that everything will be ok.

Footin
03-21-2006, 08:44 PM
Jeff, If it's a matter of keeping it dry, I would be happy to let you you my drysuit at MM2. (just don't pee in it)

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 08:45 PM
Jeff, If it's a matter of keeping it dry, I would be happy to let you you my drysuit at MM2. (just don't pee in it)

hmmmmmmmmmmm..... hadnt thought of that!! :D

Footin
03-21-2006, 08:48 PM
Threadjack: Jeff, did you see my request in the Calander thread?

flipper
03-21-2006, 08:49 PM
Sorry to hear that, take care of it so you don't run into other problems.

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 08:50 PM
Go get that scar and we will see you on the scars thread! :D

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 08:50 PM
Threadjack: Jeff, did you see my request in the Calander thread?

yep I only have a sizeable PDF, can you dissect it?

Footin
03-21-2006, 08:52 PM
No, i'm not that good, got any extra.....I will pay.

Mag_Red
03-21-2006, 09:19 PM
You sure it's not just a cyst?? I had a large lump appear on my back right behind my arm pit and that's what it was. Hard as a rock and developed like over night. :rant: Most painfull thing I ever endured was when they lanced it and started squeezing the puss out :cry:

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 09:31 PM
No, i'm not that good, got any extra.....I will pay.


sorry dude, I don't even have one. Maybe somone else on here can do it??

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 09:32 PM
Allright, anyone need another beer? :o You sure it's not just a cyst?? I had a large lump appear on my back right behind my arm pit and that's what it was. Hard as a rock and developed like over night. :rant: Most painfull thing I ever endured was when they lanced it and started squeezing the puss out :cry:

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 09:36 PM
You sure it's not just a cyst?? I had a large lump appear on my back right behind my arm pit and that's what it was. Hard as a rock and developed like over night. :rant: Most painfull thing I ever endured was when they lanced it and started squeezing the puss out :cry:

As strange as it sounds thats what I hoped it would be. I was thinking, cool, see the surgeon, get him to stab that SOB and send me on my merry way. His exact words: "uh no, that is definetely not a cyst, ok, I am scheduling you for surgery this week." Oh well, maybe there will be a hot nurse or two :D

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 09:40 PM
Yeah, like they are gonna say, "check out the hot guy in the MasterCraft hat with the big cyst on his back!

BriEOD
03-21-2006, 09:46 PM
Allright, anyone need another beer? :o
Yeah, that's attractive Mag!! :eek:

6ballsisall
03-21-2006, 09:48 PM
so whos hungry now??

erkoehler
03-21-2006, 10:10 PM
Footin, I have one for sale, $55:)

Do you want me to take pics of the calendar and post them?

Mag_Red
03-21-2006, 10:12 PM
here's another lovely picture for ya..........after they popped that sucker.......it looked like I have a va gin a on my back from the hole that was left. Never did heal correctly and lefta nice scare. Wana see it Bob????? :D

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 10:12 PM
Erk? A cyst?

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Oh yeah Mag! Show me!

JEREMY79
03-21-2006, 10:13 PM
Footin, I have one for sale, $55:)

Do you want me to take pics of the calendar and post them?
post the pics

BriEOD
03-21-2006, 10:16 PM
You guys need professional help. :rolleyes:

JEREMY79
03-21-2006, 10:18 PM
No professional help. Just some warm weather.

Hoosier Bob
03-21-2006, 10:18 PM
Whatever Brian I know you will look!

André
03-21-2006, 10:26 PM
here's another lovely picture for ya..........after they popped that sucker.......it looked like I have a va gin a on my back from the hole that was left. Never did heal correctly and lefta nice scare. Wana see it Bob????? :D
Sure Mag,show us your va gin a ... :noface:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-22-2006, 10:08 AM
Whatever Brian I know you will look!

Yea he will. Its like a train wreck, you know its gonna be bad and gross, but you just GOT to look..... its human nature. ;)

Seriously Jeff, I am sure it will all turn out fine man! :) Doctor probably just wants to line his pockets with your health insurance co's money at your discomfort over a silly cyst or something. :rolleyes:

Leroy
03-22-2006, 10:33 AM
Hey JR: Good luck on this, I'm sure it's nothing also, but get it taken care of!

bcampbe7
03-22-2006, 11:32 AM
Hope all is well Jeff.
Better to take care of this now than try to wait it out.

starman205
03-22-2006, 11:34 AM
Jeff, There may be a noninvasive approach to dealing with the growth depending on what it is. There is a relatively new technology (2 years old) called Cyberknife that uses radiation to deal with various types of lesions in the body both cancerous and noncancerous. There are hospitals in Normal, IL and Bloomington, IL that have this technology and equipmnet. I'm not sure if it applies in your case but it is worth checking it out. Either do a google search for "Cyberknife" or go to www.accuray.com for information. I am very surprised that the doctors have not done a biopsy. I would have thought that this is the first thing that they would have done. At the very least they have the responsibility to tell you what it is. Please know that you have the right as the patient to make the final decision in any treatment plan to be performed on you. Note: I have been an engineer in the the medical device field for over 20 years and know that this technology is real!!! PM me if you care to discuss more specifics.

M-Funf
03-22-2006, 12:21 PM
Note: I have been an engineer in the the medical device field for over 20 years and know that this technology is real!!!

You too? I know about the Accuray technology as well, and also know a few people who've worked there...

Cyberknife is good for deep lesions (like in the brain) that would otherwise be extremely difficult to excise. In addition, it leaves the tissue behind, so the "lump" would not go away. Cyberknife also relies on fiducials or registration of the area to be ablated, which is great if you can put the patients head in a fixture, but not so good on soft tissue areas (harder to fix in place). You end up radiating more tissue than you'd want to. I've worked with many oncologists, and their motto is:

"when in doubt, cut it out".

I've never been a big fan of the cryo, radiation, seed implant approach to cancer. If I get prostate cancer, git that sucker outta me :eek:

Footin
03-22-2006, 05:19 PM
Good luck tomorrow Jeff, we will be thinking about you.

I hope your hospital room has WI/FI.

richardsoncd
03-22-2006, 05:23 PM
Good luck man, the sooner in the sooner out. At least you can still drive the MC....and throw back some cold ones, but seriously good luck and quick recovery.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 12:04 PM
I hear you there. HOwever, I don't think its so much the docs as it is health care companies. The BS you go thru with them after paying good money out of your salary sucks! Insurance companies must have the best attorneys in the world, they think of every loop hole out there and find every way possible to "sell" you the policy and then bend you over when you need the coverage. And they don't even provide Vaseline!!! Oh chit, now I feel my blood pressure going up......


JR, sounds like a hassel. if those Doctors screw you around too much, call me. You dont need to go through that. I have a degree in mechanical engineering, and I used to dable in taxidermy for a hobby, so in some 3rd world countries, that quallifies me as a Doctor and Surgeon. we will fly to some economically depressed area in africa were its legal and we will git-r-done!! I can take care of that problem for WAY less money. and I am a germ-o-phobe, so dont worry about the cleanliness part.

If your interested, have your people contact my people. ;)

milkmania
03-23-2006, 12:10 PM
Doc told me I have to have surgery this Thursday and I'll be unavailable for watter playing for a couple weeks if not longer. :mad: No spring skiing for me :noface: :cry:

man, it's just a little snip snip....

a bag of frozen peas helps alothttp://deephousepage.com/smilies/poke2.gif

M-Funf
03-23-2006, 12:14 PM
man, it's just a little snip snip....

a bag of frozen peas helps alothttp://deephousepage.com/smilies/poke2.gif

:purplaugh :purplaugh Yeah, riiiiiiiggghhht.... you a funny man!

milkmania
03-23-2006, 12:27 PM
:purplaugh :purplaugh Yeah, riiiiiiiggghhht.... you a funny man!

the doc let my wife sever the vas deferens........

it was only fair, I cut her cord, she cut mine:o

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 12:46 PM
I was seriously considering gettin the "V" done myself. I even went for a consultation with a surgeon. I was all set, all I had to do was make the phone call to schedule it. I was darn close, but I just couldnt do it. It wasnt because of fear of the procedure, it was because of fear of regret that I might actually want youngins someday.

and NO!!! dont anyone call me to perform a "V" on them. :mad: I will cut JR's cyst off his back, but thats about it.

6ballsisall
03-23-2006, 05:13 PM
Hey all! Well I am alive! Sore and drugged up but alive. :rolleyes:

bcampbe7
03-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Good to hear Jeff.
Take it easy!

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 05:16 PM
Howdy! SO you got your lump cut out? how did it go? Whats the scoop? Glad to hear your back! :D :toast: I may need to borrow some of your pain meds, I think some people are gonna beat my arse for all my polls.

6ballsisall
03-23-2006, 05:20 PM
You can have them UMP! I can't take that crap, i'd be praying to the porcelain gods if I did :rolleyes:

Leroy
03-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Glad to hear that!

So did you use Mag's DR and have one of those things on your back now?


Hey all! Well I am alive! Sore and drugged up but alive. :rolleyes:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 05:23 PM
Glad to hear that!

So did you use Mag's DR and have one of those things on your back now?
Hows he gonna walk around the beach with one of those things on his back?

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 05:24 PM
You can have them UMP! I can't take that crap, i'd be praying to the porcelain gods if I did :rolleyes:

well keep em handy, I may need em. I may have a can of whup arse opened up on me soon. :eek: ;)

6ballsisall
03-23-2006, 05:25 PM
well keep em handy, I may need em. I may have a can of whup arse opened up on me soon. :eek: ;)


TRU DAT!! :popcorn:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-23-2006, 05:32 PM
well lets hope things calm down here and I wont need those meds. :o

So how are you feeling JR? lots of pain? whats the scoop? you gonna be OK? :confused:

6ballsisall
03-23-2006, 05:35 PM
well lets hope things calm down here and I wont need those meds. :o

So how are you feeling JR? lots of pain? whats the scoop? you gonna be OK? :confused:


I should be fine. Pretty sore, but will be ok. Wont know till probably tommorrow if it was canercous or not. It was pretty uncomfortable being awak hearing that going on (cutting it out) :eek:

east tx skier
03-24-2006, 12:18 PM
Don't know why I didn't see this thread before. Hang in there, JR. Keep us posted.

BriEOD
03-24-2006, 12:24 PM
Ditto for me. I hope everything turns out Ok!!

6ballsisall
03-24-2006, 02:21 PM
Well got the test back, no cancer! :banana: and actually not to much pain from the ordeal

The shi&&y thing is I went to the doc today because I had a high fever and just felt really bad. I have pneumonia!! Dang, I need to catch a break :rolleyes:

ski_king
03-24-2006, 02:26 PM
Well that is great news!

Not just sit back and take care of that pneumonia. You will be up and kicking in no time.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-24-2006, 02:26 PM
ROCK ON JR~! WOOO WHOOO!!! :toast:
:headbang: Thats great news on the no cancer, SEE I TOLD YOU SO!!!

you will feel better soon!!! :D

erkoehler
03-24-2006, 02:26 PM
D*MN boy....you best get healthy soon.....

6ballsisall
03-24-2006, 03:24 PM
D*MN boy....you best get healthy soon.....


TRU DAT! :rolleyes:

pilot02
03-24-2006, 03:30 PM
I was seriously considering gettin the "V" done myself. I even went for a consultation with a surgeon. I was all set, all I had to do was make the phone call to schedule it. I was darn close, but I just couldnt do it. It wasnt because of fear of the procedure, it was because of fear of regret that I might actually want youngins someday.

and NO!!! dont anyone call me to perform a "V" on them. :mad: I will cut JR's cyst off his back, but thats about it.

Definitely don't do it if you have any doubt. The cost vs success rate of the reversal ain't worth it.

For those considering it, check out the No Scalpel procedure. 20 mins in the office with little recovery and much less chance of complications from what I'm hearing. That's the route I'm going...

pilot02
03-24-2006, 03:31 PM
JR, glad to hear things went well. Sorry to hear about the pneumonia and hope ya get well soon!

bcampbe7
03-24-2006, 03:43 PM
Well got the test back, no cancer! :banana: and actually not to much pain from the ordeal


Great news Jeff!
You will ready to ski in no time! :woohoo:

east tx skier
03-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Well got the test back, no cancer! :banana: and actually not to much pain from the ordeal

The shi&&y thing is I went to the doc today because I had a high fever and just felt really bad. I have pneumonia!! Dang, I need to catch a break :rolleyes:

Glad to hear you're cancer free. Bummer about the pneumonia. Kick that and get on your stick soon. :guitar:

jimmer2880
03-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah, like they are gonna say, "check out the hot guy in the MasterCraft hat with the big cyst on his back!

That's funny stuff!

When I go in for my V next month - I'm going to be sure to wear a MC shirt (oddly enough - I don't own a MC hat... weird... I need to fix that).

MC shirt, shorts, bag-o-pees. I'm sure I'll be real sexy!

bigmac
03-25-2006, 08:30 AM
Jeff, There may be a noninvasive approach to dealing with the growth depending on what it is. There is a relatively new technology (2 years old) called Cyberknife that uses radiation to deal with various types of lesions in the body both cancerous and noncancerous. There are hospitals in Normal, IL and Bloomington, IL that have this technology and equipmnet. I'm not sure if it applies in your case but it is worth checking it out. Either do a google search for "Cyberknife" or go to www.accuray.com for information. I am very surprised that the doctors have not done a biopsy. I would have thought that this is the first thing that they would have done. At the very least they have the responsibility to tell you what it is. Please know that you have the right as the patient to make the final decision in any treatment plan to be performed on you. Note: I have been an engineer in the the medical device field for over 20 years and know that this technology is real!!! PM me if you care to discuss more specifics.

Whoa. Gamma knife for a subcutaneous tumor? No way. Its application is for biopsy-proven cancers that are not readlily accessable to surgical removal, or not removable without disrupting a lot of important normal anatomy, such as some deep brain tumors. As to the biopsy, such lesions close to the skin, tumors that can actually be felt, aren't biopsied beforehand, they're removed. The vast majority are benign. Cyberknife would be WAY overkill for something like this. If he had trouble with Cigna getting approval for a simple excision, they'd laugh in his face if he asked about radiotherapy for such a thing.