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P-hat_in_Cincy
03-19-2006, 10:43 PM
Hey all...as some of you may remember, I was installing heat and a ballast systems in our 205V. Well, I got to water test the ballast system today. Attached is a link to the complete install thread.

Ballast install (http://www.wakesiderides.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17225&pid=207581&st=0&#entry207581)

Boat home page (http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482)

If it weren't so windy, I would have rode today!!!

SKI*MC
03-19-2006, 10:59 PM
thats cool. It looks very complex! What did you use in the bow, not the side of the bow. The tip of the bow.

milkmania
03-19-2006, 11:04 PM
Hey all...as some of you may remember, I was installing heat and a ballast systems in our 205V. Well, I got to water test the ballast system today. Attached is a link to the complete install thread.

Ballast install (http://www.wakesiderides.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17225&pid=207581&st=0&#entry207581)

Boat home page (http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482)

If it weren't so windy, I would have rode today!!!


you mean you're two timing us????
I feel so used:(



anyways, great pics:headbang:

SKI*MC
03-19-2006, 11:07 PM
thats cool. It looks very complex! What did you use in the bow, not the side of the bow. The tip of the bow.

Nevermind, its that huge one.

projectely4
03-19-2006, 11:39 PM
his bow sac is made by Fly High it is the integrated bow sac and wraps all around the bow from the port side to the tip and the starboard all in one sac

noose374
03-20-2006, 02:47 AM
Hey all...as some of you may remember, I was installing heat and a ballast systems in our 205V. Well, I got to water test the ballast system today. Attached is a link to the complete install thread.

Ballast install (http://www.wakesiderides.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17225&pid=207581&st=0&#entry207581)

Boat home page (http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482)

If it weren't so windy, I would have rode today!!!

Looks great. I'm putting the finishing touches on an auto ballast setup in my PS190. Where did you get the stainless through hull fittings?

P-hat_in_Cincy
03-20-2006, 08:58 AM
Looks great. I'm putting the finishing touches on an auto ballast setup in my PS190. Where did you get the stainless through hull fittings?

Noose,
The stainless fittings came from www.boatfix.com

michael freeman
03-20-2006, 09:19 AM
Noose,
The stainless fittings came from www.boatfix.com

Found the Bronze but didn't see the Stainless.

What are the advantages of Bronze over stainless in your install?

The only reason I could think of is maybe less growth on Bronze. Is there another reason you used Bronze on one of the thru hull fittings?

P-hat_in_Cincy
03-20-2006, 09:32 AM
Do a search for "thru hull" and it'll return results of size, color, and pricing. Then click on the catalogue page to see the product.

Selection page (http://www.boatfix.com/bykeywordnew2.asp?textfield=thru+hull&texttype=2&submit=Search)

Thru hull catalogue page (http://www.boatfix.com/catalog/624.pdf)

Although our boat doesn't sit in the water for more than a week at a time, I used bronze on the 2 bottom hull intakes b/c I thought I heard stainless is a little more susceptible to pitting. All the stainless thru hulls are above the water line with exception to the rear transom intakes, but even those spend time above the water line when on plane.

As for other advantage of stainless over bronze...looks.

Kell
03-20-2006, 02:55 PM
Nice work!

Diesel
03-23-2006, 12:22 PM
Nice work ;)

It turned out sweet. I really like that bow sac. You will have to let me know how it works out and if you think it is worth it considering it only holds a portion of stated capacity. I might have to add one to my list since bow weight seemed to clean up the 209 wake very nicely.

Thanks for sharing the install and the info :) .

hutangclan
01-10-2010, 12:42 AM
I don't suppose you could repost your ballast install on this site since wakesiderides is down????

Wake2004
04-24-2010, 12:55 PM
please repost

2000205V
05-25-2010, 01:49 PM
I'd like to see what you used in the front as well. I'm concerned that the bow bag won't fit too well in the older 205V's and X2's because after looking at the flyhigh bags it seems like it is far too big for the very nose of the boat under the seats ... they advertise the integrated bow bag for 2004 and newer X series.

Would love to see a pic to see the fit.

Also, how well does it drain the entire sac?

Until now I have had a 600lb bag across the seats in the front and it is messy to drain/fill and also uses a lot of space ....... not to mention it's destroyed my bow seat upholstry.

Many thanks!

mccobmd
05-25-2010, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=2000205V;681679]I'd like to see what you used in the front as well. I'm concerned that the bow bag won't fit too well in the older 205V's and X2's because after looking at the flyhigh bags it seems like it is far too big for the very nose of the boat under the seats ... they advertise the integrated bow bag for 2004 and newer X series.
QUOTE]

If you fill it all the way it pops the seats up

djkslc
05-25-2010, 05:01 PM
mccobmd, you helped me with some info on the 02 x-star I bought a few weeks ago. Thanks again. The previous owner installed the bow fly high sac. He plumbed in a new pump about a foot back from the ballast intake. The pump pumps the water into the starboard side of the bag and it seems to be able to fill nearly 100% before water starts coming out the overfill holes. I know it's getting close to full when my cup holders up front start to rise up. To empty it he has another pump on the port side that pumps the water out (seems to get 95% of the water out). It is a very clean set-up that I wasn't too fired up that it had it at first because I lost some storage, but now that I have used it I couldn't be more pleased that it is in there. The one bad thing is you can't fill them all at the same time. If you are running the fill pump for the bow bag it starves the other 3 pumps and vise versa.

TallRedRider
05-25-2010, 06:06 PM
Hey all...as some of you may remember, I was installing heat and a ballast systems in our 205V. Well, I got to water test the ballast system today. Attached is a link to the complete install thread.

Ballast install (http://www.wakesiderides.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17225&pid=207581&st=0&#entry207581)

Boat home page (http://www.wakesiderides.com/rides/index.php?page=out&id=1482)

If it weren't so windy, I would have rode today!!!

PHat,
how come the link is not working for me? I just get junk website with other links on it.

I thought it would never happen in the rear, but for the first time I had the rear sack collapse shut and stop air flow from the overflow once the sac was empty and the tank in the rear started to implode. I have had this problem plenty in the front, but never in the rear so far. (I think I got the front figured out). I am assuming that you plumbed the fly high sacs via the overflow like many others have done. I considered putting something in the sac like a smaller hose with multiple air ports in it to be sure the sack can not completely vaccuum itself shut without sucking air into the overflow. Any thoughts?

76S&S
05-26-2010, 09:43 AM
I plumbed the integrated bow sac in this past winter. My ski locker bag had a port and starbord overflow so I ran these to the port and starbord sides of the bow sac and then ran overflows to the existing through hull overflows.

The bag doesn't fill 100%. Once the cup holders start poppin out, I cut the pump off.

I've found that it is best to drain the bag while the nose of the boat is a little high. Either running 25 or so down the lake or once on the lift...........but not sitting still in the water. With the nose high gravity takes care of flowing the water to the ski locker bag which then flows to the pump.

BHT
05-26-2010, 12:43 PM
I'm getting ready to make some changes on my X1 and trying to decide on the 400 lb or 750 lb bags in the rear lockers. Any advice would be appreciated.

rem_pss308
05-26-2010, 12:47 PM
I'm getting ready to make some changes on my X1 and trying to decide on the 400 lb or 750 lb bags in the rear lockers. Any advice would be appreciated.


I have the 750 in my 1999 X-star which is the same hull. It takes a lot of weight in the front.

You can figure about the same weight in the front as you put in the rear. and if you have anyone sitting on the sundeck, or rear seat while riding, that effects it too.

If I had it to do over I would get the 400 for the engine compartment.

My son can do scarecrows,tantrums, elephants and and 540 spins with the lower weight. and a few people in the boat.

BHT
05-26-2010, 05:38 PM
Thanks rem, I ordered the 400 lb bags so I don't have to go so crazy with weight up front. It's plenty wake for me anyway.

mccobmd
05-26-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks rem, I ordered the 400 lb bags so I don't have to go so crazy with weight up front. It's plenty wake for me anyway.

The reason I went with 750's is to surf. I fill them approx half way for boarding with KGB full and 300lbs up front. Way bigger wake than I want or need. It's nice to fill them on either side for surfing.

BHT
05-26-2010, 11:27 PM
mccobmd good point about surf.

2000205V
06-01-2010, 04:05 PM
So for a 2000 205V (X-star) front ballast would I be better off with a flyhigh bow bag under the seats (and not fill it completely full to avoid seat popping) or a straight tube style bag that snakes around the front under the seats?

I think my options are:
Fly High Pro X Series X-2 Integrated Bow Sac
OR
Fly High Pro X Series Integrated Bow Sac
OR
Fly High Pro X Series Center Gravity Games Sac (tube sack)

Also I would love to see a filled bag and a lbs estimate on an early model xstar or 205V if any of you have done them.

Thanks!

rem_pss308
01-16-2011, 10:15 AM
Hey P-hat_in_Cincy,

Can you post your pics here, I never did get to see your install, and Im about to get started on mine.

01-17-2011, 05:34 PM
I'm getting ready to make some changes on my X1 and trying to decide on the 400 lb or 750 lb bags in the rear lockers. Any advice would be appreciated.

If you're going to be using the boat for surfing get the 750s, as you need as much weight in that locker as possible. Even with additional weight in the front of the boat you probably won't fill them completely for wakeboarding.

If you're only interested in wakeboarding the 400's are probably plenty, unless you plan on a significant upgrade in the bow of the boat.

Our Mastercraft TankBuster Upgrade (http://www.wakemakers.com/mastercraft-tankbuster-ballst-system-upgrade.html) may be worth looking at if you want to save the time and hassle of tracking down everything you need for the upgrade (and save a little money on the components).