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jayderwin1
02-17-2006, 08:03 AM
do skylons cause and damage to the factory ski pole or the base that it hooks up to? i know they have cables going to the bow hook, but what about side to side damage?

Kevin 89MC
02-17-2006, 09:37 AM
I use a skylon on mine, although not that much. I have noticed no damage or wear. The one I have has a nice soft (rubber?) insert in the sleeve that fits over the pylon, and soft mesh around the cable where it hooks through the front eyebolt. After reading some other posts about pylons, I will be checking my mounting bolts first thing in the spring, to make sure they are tight.
Good luck.

3event
02-17-2006, 09:43 AM
I've been using a Fly High since 2002, no problems noticed. Add me to the list of those checking mounts in the spring, though. There is a warning sticker advising the rider not to swing out beyond 45 degrees - if you have a decent boarder get out to 45 or more, you see some flex in the pole. We do more skiing and barefooting - boarding not the primary sport.

I'm still not nervous about it enough to consider dropping a tower on the machine. We dock in the lift after every run so I still perceive the tower as a complication that will cost me $$$$$.

Hoff1
02-17-2006, 10:43 AM
Used a Fly High for 5 seasons. Wakeboarding is primary sport for the boat. Never seen an issue as far as damage. I have tightened the bolts below the floor twice in those 5 seasons. Just keep an eye on the flex while someone is riding. Usually not an issue for most riders.

jayderwin1
02-17-2006, 11:11 AM
so these skylons were not made for wakeboarding? everytime i go out for a jump its at least 45 degrees. yeah i would like a tower also but cant afford $1500 for it. really the only reason i am intrested is so people can sit in the back while one is wakeboardin. it seems like that would be a lot of pull on the base of the pylon, 8 feet is a lot of leverage.

corey
02-17-2006, 11:15 AM
Been using one for years, no problems what so ever. I definitally recommend the Fly High product though, I had a differnt brand for awhile and the connection system was far less durable.

bcampbe7
02-17-2006, 11:19 AM
so these skylons were not made for wakeboarding? everytime i go out for a jump its at least 45 degrees. yeah i would like a tower also but cant afford $1500 for it. really the only reason i am intrested is so people can sit in the back while one is wakeboardin. it seems like that would be a lot of pull on the base of the pylon, 8 feet is a lot of leverage.


Keep in mind, your pylon is not supporting 100% of the force. The Fly-high is also attached at the bow.

AirJunky
02-17-2006, 11:20 AM
I used one for a couple years & never had a problem. Be sure to keep the bow cable tight & encourage your riders to not throw big tricks out in the flats. I'm not talking about cutting out & then doing a progressive cut back into the wake. But doing air tricks, flips or rolls, and then hanging on for dear life. I know a guy in the Sac Delta area who yanked the pylon completely out of the boat. He was doing air front flips & held on a bit too long.
Also, get an extended pylon that uses a bow cable, not a strap. We had problems with the straps flexing a lot, even when the rider was right behind the boat.

east tx skier
02-17-2006, 11:23 AM
In my father-in-law's 98 205, there is a warning on the pylon about attaching tall things to it. Bow strap would seem to be a must.

jayderwin1
02-17-2006, 11:34 AM
i realize they have straps that hook to the bow, what i am worried about it the side force, there is nothing but the pylon that keeps the skylon from going side to side

bcampbe7
02-17-2006, 12:19 PM
Break-out the vector force book.
I imagine under extreme side force the pylon would give, but like AJ said, just be careful on the tricks out in the flats. :steering:

AirJunky
02-17-2006, 01:01 PM
i realize they have straps that hook to the bow, what i am worried about it the side force, there is nothing but the pylon that keeps the skylon from going side to side
Yep, and like I said before, don't be pulling tricks out in the flats & thinking you can butt check & pull out of them. There aren't many boarders who can do tricks out there anyway, which is why you don't hear about problems. A big strong rider can pull them over pretty easily & will cause problems in the pylon mount over time.

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02-17-2006, 02:01 PM
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jayderwin1
02-17-2006, 02:16 PM
yeah i don't have to worry about and tricks out in the flats the wake is about the only thing that gets me in the air.

bradamerry
02-17-2006, 04:02 PM
I will not use mine anymore. I've had a tighten my mounts 3 times because of the thing. My two cents.

east tx skier
02-17-2006, 04:21 PM
Brad, I'm laughing. You're talking about the fact that your pylon mounts keep loosening up, then below, you've got the for sale message.

That's truth in advertising for ya!

AirJunky
02-17-2006, 04:30 PM
I will not use mine anymore. I've had a tighten my mounts 3 times because of the thing. My two cents.If the nuts are backing off, use lock washers or nylocks.
It might be crushing the glass inside the U-bolts. You can reinforce it with a metal plate or two inside it.
We saw the same thing happen when using a bow strap (that stretched) rather than a bow cable (no stretch).

east tx skier
02-17-2006, 04:52 PM
I'm no longer laughing.

Sodar
02-17-2006, 05:10 PM
I have an Air Boom on my 1996 and have used it for 3 years now without incident. I just make sure my strap is taunt and that the pylon bolts are tight and I have never had any problems... I have also done a little customizing by adding a few allen bolts to the Air Boom to clamp the pole to the pylon because when I used the ski tow it would twist the whole pole and cause my board racks to be sideways. Here is a picture of what I am talking about:

AirJunky
02-17-2006, 05:16 PM
Hey Cameron, have you ever looked under the floor at your pylon mounts? The straps on the AB are exactly what we had a problem with. They would be tight and the pylon would still move due to the straps stretching.

Sodar
02-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Hey Cameron, have you ever looked under the floor at your pylon mounts? The straps on the AB are exactly what we had a problem with. They would be tight and the pylon would still move due to the straps stretching.

Yeah, everything checks out fine... I use my AirBoom very rarely and if I do it is typically with new riders since everyone wants to ride behind my best buddy's Super Air. I usually just use it for goofing around on the wakeskate or teaching new people to ride. I mean after all it is a slalom boat... my wake is SUPPOSED to be small and I am proud of it!!

Sodar
02-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Hey Cameron, have you ever looked under the floor at your pylon mounts? The straps on the AB are exactly what we had a problem with. They would be tight and the pylon would still move due to the straps stretching.

Oh, one more thing! I completely forgot about this! I got rid of the stock AirBoom strap and ratchet. I went and bought spectra webbing that matched the maroon in my boat and also bought a stainless ratchet as the zinc coated one looks like crap. If anyone has an AirBoom, you should try this spectra webbing, it is what mountain climbers use... NO stretch at all!

AirJunky
02-17-2006, 05:26 PM
Bingo! Best thing you could have done, Cameron!