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dichdoc
02-11-2006, 11:45 PM
Researching restoration of 84 S&S looking for pics of stringer and floor replacement. Searched threads but pics are MIA. I have the typical delamination to the sides of the engine.

6ballsisall
02-11-2006, 11:47 PM
Researching restoration of 84 S&S looking for pics of stringer and floor replacement. Searched threads but pics are MIA. I have the typical delamination to the sides of the engine.

I don't believe 84's had wooden stringers. ICBW though

tex
02-11-2006, 11:49 PM
I did my stringers on my 80 supreme. it is messy but not as bad as you would think! good luck!

east tx skier
02-12-2006, 12:43 AM
As Jrandol said, I don't think you have wood stringers there. Maybe just need to reinforce the engine mounts somehow? But as for replacing the stringers, that may not be necessary.

JEREMY79
02-12-2006, 10:55 AM
Yeah I dont think 84 had wooden stringers either. If you just want to reinforce the engine mounts- take them out and fill the holes full of epoxy and let it dry. put a 1/4" metal plate on each side of the stringer where the mount is and drill you new holes. Floors are easy, if you can take your old one out you can put the new one back in.

Cloaked
02-12-2006, 04:59 PM
If I understand previous information and through owning several of the old boats, the stringers were wood through the 80s and maybe further. The change in quality came when MC decided to glass over the wood to protect it from water exposure. I think the early 83 year models (actually manufactured in late 82) were the last of exposed wood stringers. Please don't hold me to the fire on this as the gospel.

Dan K
02-12-2006, 05:25 PM
I have an 81 it has wooden stringers covered by glass. Only exposure is where screws are mounted as well as the crossover drain channels in the back. I must be one of the only lucky ones, Stringers are original and solid last time I checked.

dichdoc
02-12-2006, 06:58 PM
I agree with the stringers being glassed. Can anyone point me to a restoration thread with pics? Jermey's? thanks TB

Larryp
02-12-2006, 10:08 PM
I am sure there is no wood in a 84

erkoehler
02-13-2006, 12:14 AM
I agree with the stringers being glassed. Can anyone point me to a restoration thread with pics? Jermey's? thanks TB


Haven't seen any pics of that on the site right now, but your best bet would be Jeremy to get those.

JEREMY79
02-13-2006, 08:16 AM
Guys I think I lost most of my restoration pics in the move. I cant seem to find them.

brianaw26
02-13-2006, 03:36 PM
Here is some more info that I found on some other forums. Basic Idea but not exactly the same boats. hope this helps a little.

http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=75210#post75210

This bateau site is full of info!!!

http://bateau2.com/content/view/144/28/


http://209.190.4.227/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=396

Iím about to jump into this stringer, floor replacement, and I am rebuilding the engine. Hopefully I can get this done on my week off. 7 days of busting my arse!! I have to finish.

amber 6
02-13-2006, 04:04 PM
If you want to PM me I have more photos from my 83 Stars and Stripes rebuild.

Cloaked
02-13-2006, 04:54 PM
Guys I think I lost most of my restoration pics in the move. I cant seem to find them.I have them somewhere.

JEREMY79
02-13-2006, 05:43 PM
I have them somewhere.
post em

jayderwin1
02-13-2006, 06:01 PM
Amber 6 is the bow storage area solid? no stringers

Cloaked
02-13-2006, 07:24 PM
post emI will when I recover a dead HD. SombiAtch went teats up as I booted to look for them. I am about ready to cry.

insocova
03-04-2006, 01:42 AM
I am 70% through a total restoration of a 79 Mastercraft. I have been reading but not posting. When I am done, I plan to make a website about the entire process. I pulled the engine, stripped out the old interior, carpet, floorboards, and stringers. Bought new fir stringers, cut them to fit, coated them with resin twice and glassed them in. I am away for three months on business and plan to complete the job when I get home to be on the water for the summer. I have total documentation from motor mount angles and measurements to the total trailer fender reconstruction..So far I am in process of completing the stringers, and will do the floor next, which has been cut already. The motor is 90% complete minus a timing chain/gearset and installation back into the boat. Any questions up to this point, I will be more than happy to answer. Any pics needed, email me @ calegilley@hotmail.com and I will send them. I am very proud of the project thus far and this restoration has become a passion. To my knowlege, an 84 definately does not contain wood anywhere, but if my wood stringer pics will help let me know. later

kjohnson
03-06-2006, 08:26 AM
The only wood in an 84 is in the seats and side panels.

Cloaked
03-06-2006, 03:01 PM
The only wood in an 84 is in the seats and side panels.Not 100% true. The transom is wood as well as the stringers IIRC. Both are glass covered but there still lies wood. I have drilled into both and found as described. :twocents:

kjohnson
03-07-2006, 09:06 AM
According to MC literature, there was wood in the transom in 83, but not 84. Are you sure it is an 84? Also, according to the literature, wood stringers were not in the 84.

Bruce Carr
03-07-2006, 09:54 AM
MC went to the fiberglass stringer system in mid '83. I can't say for sure but I would be very surprised if they retained wood in the transom when they went to the all fiberglass construction. I have an early '83 which has wood stringers laminated with fiberglass, all new wood floors (just finished that project) and a wood core sandwhiched between layerers of fiberglass in the transom.

dichdoc
03-07-2006, 09:56 AM
My 84 has wood in the transom about half way up (from the bottom to just above the floor) It supports the Teak which was lagged in to the wood. TB

Cloaked
03-07-2006, 12:04 PM
My 84 has wood in the transom about half way up (from the bottom to just above the floor) It supports the Teak which was lagged in to the wood. TBCorrect (not doubting but confirming) as does the 85 model.

Cloaked
03-07-2006, 12:08 PM
..........I can't say for sure but I would be very surprised if they retained wood in the transom when they went to the all fiberglass construction. That is contradictary within itself. Transoms have wood, thus "all fiberglass" is not a correct statement.

There is wood in dem-dare-stringer-thingers.


...beating a dead horse... LOL :D :D

jayderwin1
03-13-2006, 10:30 PM
my 86 has wood in the transom i found this out when my swim platform rip out of the back.