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Byrdman
01-12-2006, 11:58 AM
These guys are trying to say that the Moombas and Supras are built with the same quality as MC, Nautiques, & Bu's. I dont know about the compitition, but MC's quality is a few(or more) steps ahead.

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/276897.html?1137080936


Looks like they are trying to justify why they bought an inferior boat, :headbang:

Cloaked
01-12-2006, 12:02 PM
I didn't click and I already know what's coming. Misery loves company.

And I still won't click.... :noface: :noface:

mrcrowson
01-12-2006, 12:08 PM
Hey did you guys see that guy was Justin Poop
:uglyhamme :D now that is Funny

MarkP
01-12-2006, 12:09 PM
I didn't click and I already know what's coming. Misery loves company.

And I still won't click.... :noface: :noface:
I didnít look either. But if its on the net, well, it must be true!!

twieder
01-12-2006, 12:11 PM
I read some, boardom or curiousity,not sure.My expierance...ya get what ya pay for.Some like hamburg, me ,I love steak! :rolleyes:

BriEOD
01-12-2006, 12:13 PM
Don't feed the trolls guys.

Leroy
01-12-2006, 12:28 PM
I'm not afraid to click, but not sure what I read still....:confused:


But I still know what I think!!! :)

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 12:29 PM
I'd wager the engines are probably about the same quality.

My brother-in-law has a supra. I'm not exactly frowning when I'm skiing behind it. It is a seven-year-old boat and, during the two years he's owned it, aprt from his having to repack the shaft, has been trouble free.

I take it all of you fellas have spent a lot of time in and around moombas/supras?

All that said, I am quite satisfied with my ski boat purchase.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 12:30 PM
My expierance...ya get what ya pay for.Some like hamburg, me ,I love steak! :rolleyes:

MC doesn't have the lowest MSRP, ya know. What are you trying to say. ;)

BriEOD
01-12-2006, 01:11 PM
Well, I thought the one guy hit it on the head. When after 20-30 years you still see MCs and CCs going for $10k+ that's value. Look at Denny's boat. Show me a Moomba after 25 years.

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 01:15 PM
im sure theyre built well, but they just dont have any luxurious stuff. i see it kind of like comparing a hydundai to a mercedes. are they both good cars? yes. will they both last a long time? yes the diffrence is in the hyundai you look like a dork , it performs like crap and it tit doesnt have nice ameneties. it was funny when i was shopping for a new boat before i bought the mc , i went to look at the supra and they only hade the outback. they were selling a new outback for less than i was selling a 4 y/o MB .

Jim@BAWS
01-12-2006, 02:13 PM
Interesting to read the CRAP that these guys through out there.
Even more amazing to see how much sticks. Here is a little reality for ya.

Last year or the year before you could not get 15 year financing on a MOOMBA because of the precieved perception of a DISPOSABLE BOAT. In other words IT DOES NOT LAST. MC went standard FUEL injection in 93-94 12 years ago. Moomba finally came on board last year.

You want cheap...then buy cheap. You get what you pay for !


Jim@BAWS

jraben8
01-12-2006, 02:23 PM
I absolutely love the fact that I sold my '87 Prostar for $50 less than I paid for it 7 years earlier. I could have gotten more but I was ready to upgrade and had the buyers itch!!!

sand2snow22
01-12-2006, 02:32 PM
Moomba's seem like great boats, especially for the price point. I've never been in one, so I don't want to judge. These guys seem to say Moomba has excellent construction techniques much like the big three. But do they really? It would be interesting to drill through a Moomba and drill through a MC or Bu to see the difference in thickness of the fiberglass?

erkoehler
01-12-2006, 02:41 PM
Moomba's seem like great boats, especially for the price point. I've never been in one, so I don't want to judge. These guys seem to say Moomba has excellent construction techniques much like the big three. But do they really? It would be interesting to drill through a Moomba and drill through a MC or Bu to see the difference in thickness of the fiberglass?

Just send me a check and I'll get to work :uglyhamme

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 02:49 PM
ive drilled a hole in the 93 mc and my 00 MB. didnt notice any thickness differences. then again i didnt svae the cut outs. i dont think the thickness of the fiberglass is what makes them cheaper. cheaper parts, carpet, upholtestelry, instuments etc and less of them.

Jim@BAWS
01-12-2006, 03:01 PM
You actually drilled 2 holes...One in the FALSE floor and then a second
through the hull. Thats a LINER in the bildge not the bottom of the boat. Rod at least per your owns words "CHEAPER". Look at your hollow stingers...no backing plates for the motor mounts. Look how your pylon is attached. Do you remember how your MC Pylon was attached? Backing plates on each side into STEEL not FIBERGLASS stingers held in by stainless steel U-Bolts

Looks great !!! But made much much cheaper !!!

Jim@BAWS



ive drilled a hole in the 93 mc and my 00 MB. didnt notice any thickness differences. then again i didnt svae the cut outs. i dont think the thickness of the fiberglass is what makes them cheaper. cheaper parts, carpet, upholtestelry, instuments etc and less of them.

PendO
01-12-2006, 03:05 PM
Seriously though ... the Single with Cheese From Wendy's is hands down better than the 1/4 Pounder from McDonalds, and the Wopper is a distant third ... now when it comes to breakfast, you just can't touch BK and the French Toast Sticks!

jmyers
01-12-2006, 03:12 PM
Seriously though ... the Single with Cheese From Wendy's is hands down better than the 1/4 Pounder from McDonalds, and the Wopper is a distant third ... now when it comes to breakfast, you just can't touch BK and the French Toast Sticks!
:uglyhamme Intended but mabey needed threadjack!

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:15 PM
Seriously though ... the Single with Cheese From Wendy's is hands down better than the 1/4 Pounder from McDonalds, and the Wopper is a distant third ... now when it comes to breakfast, you just can't touch BK and the French Toast Sticks!


i agree wendy's is the best out of the three. but what the deal with In n' Out. that place is always busy. im in the wrong business.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 03:16 PM
You actually drilled 2 holes...One in the FALSE floor and then a second
through the hull. Thats a LINER in the bildge not the bottom of the boat. Rod at least per your owns words "CHEAPER". Look at your hollow stingers...no backing plates for the motor mounts. Look how your pylon is attached. Do you remember how your MC Pylon was attached? Backing plates on each side into STEEL not FIBERGLASS stingers held in by stainless steel U-Bolts

Looks great !!! But made much much cheaper !!!

Jim@BAWS

Jim, just for the record, I don't think Rod was talking about his Bu here. He had a 2000 model ski boat by MB Sports if I recall correctly. This is a boat he doesn't own any more and can't readily see the things you're telling him to look at. It just seemed like you two might be talking about two different things inasmuch as Rod was comparing holes he drilled in his 00 MB and his 93 MC.

Carry on.

I hear those Malibus fill up with snow when you leave them uncovered in the frozen north. ;)

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:16 PM
You actually drilled 2 holes...One in the FALSE floor and then a second
through the hull. Thats a LINER in the bildge not the bottom of the boat. Rod at least per your owns words "CHEAPER". Look at your hollow stingers...no backing plates for the motor mounts. Look how your pylon is attached. Do you remember how your MC Pylon was attached? Backing plates on each side into STEEL not FIBERGLASS stingers held in by stainless steel U-Bolts

Looks great !!! But made much much cheaper !!!
Jim@BAWS


yeah i know, i think we all know.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 03:18 PM
i agree wendy's is the best out of the three. but what the deal with In n' Out. that place is always busy. im in the wrong business.

I like Fat Burger better than In/Out.

jmyers
01-12-2006, 03:20 PM
I like Fat Burger better than In/Out.
The only problem is we don't have Fat Burger here, I have only been on the strip in Vegas! In and Out is our CA burger joint! But i have to agree ETS Fat Burger is a little better! :D

sand2snow22
01-12-2006, 03:20 PM
[QUOTE=rodltg2] i dont think the thickness of the fiberglass is what makes them cheaper. QUOTE]

I would much rather go through the chop or double ups with a boat built with thick fiberglass, not cheap thin fiberglass....... The new X-2 is supposed to be constructed better than my X-1 hull style to better handle the chop, as a buyer this is appealing to me....A test drive might be in order.... :headbang:

I've never experienced Fat Burger, but do like In & Out.... 8p

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:20 PM
ive only had fatburger once at this indian casino in town. i dont gamble ( besides the bu' purchase ;) ) so i havnt been back. what about sonic burger , stopped there on the way back from bakersfield, not impressed.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 03:22 PM
For you fine people in Texas and/or Florida, I have three words in one part. Whataburger.

jmyers
01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
ive only had fatburger once at this indian casino in town. i dont gamble ( besides the bu' purchase ;) ) so i havnt been back. what about sonic burger , stopped there on the way back from bakersfield, not impressed.
Sonic onion rings and cherry lime aid to drink!! And to each his own on ski boats so who cares if mine is better than yours or yours is better than mine LET"S GO SKIING!!!!!!!!!! Back on thread track for a minute!! :D

loeweb
01-12-2006, 03:23 PM
Have to throw in Runza's burgers. Way better than any other fast food burger that I've had

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:25 PM
[QUOTE=rodltg2] i dont think the thickness of the fiberglass is what makes them cheaper. QUOTE]

I would much rather go through the chop or double ups with a boat built with thick fiberglass, not cheap thin fiberglass....... The new X-2 is supposed to be constructed better than my X-1 hull style to better handle the chop, as a buyer this is appealing to me....A test drive might be in order.... :headbang:


i didnt mean that a moomba has thinner but doent make them cheaper, i meant that i dont think the hull is thinner therefore not making that a reason for them being cheaper. maybe they are though , i dont know. moomba's are not my cup of tea. the outback doesnt rate that well for slalom.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 03:39 PM
...who cares if mine is better than yours or yours is better than mine LET"S GO SKIING!!!!!!!!!!

Amen. If somebody pulled up right now with a V.I.P. and said let's go skiing, I'd be out the door without thinking twice about it.

Of course, when I finished my set, I would tell him the carpet sucked and that the fiberglass smelled as if it had sat in the chop gun too long. No matter what, I'd make sure he realized by the time he dropped me off that he'd wasted his money on an inferior product. I'd then find out if he owned a puppy so I could go kick sand in its eyes. 8p

Hey, Rod. At the Mercedes dealership, do they talk trash about us Honda owners?

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:43 PM
Amen. If somebody pulled up right now with a V.I.P. and said let's go skiing, I'd be out the door without thinking twice about it.

Of course, when I finished my set, I would tell him the carpet sucked and that the fiberglass smelled as if it had sat in the chop gun too long. No matter what, I'd make sure he realized by the time he dropped me off that he'd wasted his money on an inferior product. I'd then find out if he owned a puppy so I could go kick sand in its eyes. 8p

Hey, Rod. At the Mercedes dealership, do they talk trash about us Honda owners?


your lucky to get anyone help you at all. actually it's a pleasant buying experience.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 03:50 PM
You're lucky to get anyone help you at all. actually it's a pleasant buying experience.

Actually, that's why my mom bought a Lexus. She and I drove over to the Mercedes dealership and could hardly get waited on. She drove down the street and wrote the Lexus dealer a check.

Eleven years later, she's still driving that Lexus. Talk about a low maintenance car.

River Rat
01-12-2006, 03:52 PM
For you fine people in Texas and/or Florida, I have three words in one part. Whataburger.


:firejump: Now we are talking What A Burger :steering:

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 03:54 PM
i love my mercedes nut ill be the first one say that they are overpriced and cost a buttload to maintain. thats the price you gotta pay to look pimp.!

djhuff
01-12-2006, 04:06 PM
I like the Wendy's drive through, around here, the only way they could be any faster is if they read your mind with what you wanted and had automatic draft on your bank account.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 04:08 PM
i love my mercedes nut ill be the first one say that they are overpriced and cost a buttload to maintain. thats the price you gotta pay to look pimp.!

I love 'em, too. But I've decided to put off buying one for quite a few years now. Besides, I look pimp without it. ;)

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 04:08 PM
they are also the only ones opne late in my area for the late night munchies. by the way im not a pot head focker.

jmyers
01-12-2006, 04:11 PM
they are also the only ones opne late in my area for the late night munchies. by the way im not a pot head focker.
:uglyhamme I think that is the true reason for the late night drive up window, they just won't say! And Wendy is a freak! (her idea I bet!)

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 04:13 PM
great now im hungry and im stuck in my office teamtalkin. too many of my sales people called in sick.

erkoehler
01-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Tell one of them to drag their sick arses out of bed and bring you lunch.

Sodar
01-12-2006, 04:16 PM
Amen. If somebody pulled up right now with a V.I.P. and said let's go skiing, I'd be out the door without thinking twice about it.

But you would think twice if it was a Bayliner I would hope!!!! :woohoo:

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 04:20 PM
Actually, we went out with some friends in their I/O last summer. Good times! I took my Maherajah long board figuring at 150 feet behind the boat, wake doesn't matter much anyway. Wake wasn't the problem. Dragging while that thing took its sweet time to plane was an issue, however. You get spoiled quick behind direct drives.

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 04:20 PM
not if it was the toolman in his challenger

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 04:21 PM
Rod, I thought you only had two boats now? ;)

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 04:24 PM
ill never sell my challenger. that boat is sweet!

jayocheskey
01-12-2006, 04:33 PM
For you fine people in Texas and/or Florida, I have three words in one part. Whataburger.

I LOVE the triple cheeseburger with Jalepenos. WHATABURGER is the way to go.

Jack-In-the-Box and the Ultimate Cheeseburger are a close second.

east tx skier
01-12-2006, 04:54 PM
ill never sell my challenger. that boat is sweet!

I still remember that thread. Bunch of people, probably being polite, saying, "I'm not so sure that's a MasterCraft."

bigmac
01-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Have to throw in Runza's burgers. Way better than any other fast food burger that I've hadNot sure, but I think Runza's have not so much nationwide presence. As soon as I saw someone mention Runza, I knew you were from Nebraska. I lived in Omaha all my life, went to UNL. Love Runza's... :)

Do you remember King's?

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 07:00 PM
I still remember that thread. Bunch of people, probably being polite, saying, "I'm not so sure that's a MasterCraft."


those were goodtimes, cant believ it went for so long

agua4fun
01-12-2006, 07:09 PM
I LOVE the triple cheeseburger with Jalepenos. WHATABURGER is the way to go.

Jack-In-the-Box and the Ultimate Cheeseburger are a close second.

I was in south padre TX for a week in october. WHATABURGER rocks! in 7 days i was there 4 times. (always after midnight)

rodltg2
01-12-2006, 07:35 PM
spring break? drunkin munchies?

H20skeefreek
01-12-2006, 07:38 PM
i just died laughing when I saw the thread title.

to be honest, i seriously considered buying a 2 or 3 year old moomba, but bought a 20 year old MC instead. I still think I got a better boat.

BriEOD
01-12-2006, 07:42 PM
those were goodtimes, cant believ it went for so long
Yep, I finally got to the bottom of that one. :D

AirJunky
01-12-2006, 08:12 PM
Look how your pylon is attached. Do you remember how your MC Pylon was attached? Backing plates on each side into STEEL not FIBERGLASS stingers held in by stainless steel U-Bolts
While I've certainly been happy with my boat purchase, and I've put the boat thru some serious paces too, I've got 2 friends who have ripped the pylon out of an MC....... one DD & one VD, both less than 5 or 6 yrs old. And as cheesy as the 'bu pylon installs used to be (haven't looked at one in a few years), I've never heard of one coming out.

Whataburger used to be great, but I haven't lived in Texas in years. Around here it's Wendy's or Kidd Valley.

BriEOD
01-12-2006, 08:19 PM
I like Wendy's. Also, those Hardess thickburgers are pretty good. Chilis (yes I know it isn't fast food) has some good burgers to! The Old Timer w/cheese and an ice cold Bud Light. :banana:

88 PS190
01-12-2006, 08:35 PM
The reason its so hard to do these comparisons because a moomba is still a 30+ THOUSAND dollar boat. That means that compared to the typical 15 thousand dollar boat alot of quality gets put in. That's a large step between an I/O and a moomba. Now there's the question of moomba's reputation vs. mastercrafts reputation. This is something that must be built. CC and MC have been around for a long time (CC a very long time) and through the course of history they've established brand quality.

Moomba has been getting better that is for sure. The do take steps to cut cost and keep their prices down. But it is not a bad boat and its not a "cheap" boat.

The problem I notice with all these comparisons is trying to negate the moomba below where it actually lies today.. The current moomba isn't the moomba of 10 years ago. Mastercraft however is still a high quality product that is remaining at the top along w/ CC.

What I will chime in on is that wakeboard specific V-drives are a relatively new product for both companies and use engines and transmissions from similar or the same manufacturers. They hire out steering cables and such. So most of the differences on the MC boat are hull design (arguably better) and the numerous high quality upgrades available on the hull.

Myself i'll take an older mastercraft before the moomba. But i'm not gonna say I don't like the moombas, as some of them are worthy boats... just not excellent boats.

MYMC
01-13-2006, 11:30 AM
Ever wonder if the Ferrari, Porsche, or any other "A" list sports car forums get this debate?

Ferrari VS Pontiac?
Porsche VS KIA

Sure they all have tires, suspension, engine, transmission etc...But there is a quantifiable difference.

Sales laws (as true as any in physics):
1) Nothing is worth more than what someone will pay for it at that point in time.
2) Resale value over time is greatest determiner of quality and desirability. Free markets doesn't lie.

Apply the rules to the brands mentioned in this post...

BriEOD
01-13-2006, 11:34 AM
Ferrari VS Pontiac?
Porsche VS KIA


That is pretty funny Mike. In my humble opinion, I think your example would be more synonymous with for example Bayliner vs. MC. While I agree Moomba is not even in the same league as MC, I'm not quite sure they are a KIA. Maybe a Chrylser Crossfire?

MYMC
01-13-2006, 11:38 AM
I stand corrected...as you saw in the other posts it is a bad morning. Thanks for the catch.

east tx skier
01-13-2006, 11:47 AM
Yeah, I think Brian has a point. Afterall, they're both using engines by indmar. Maybe it's like a 911 versus a Boxter. :)

SteveO
01-13-2006, 11:50 AM
[QUOTE=jayocheskey]I LOVE the triple cheeseburger with Jalepenos. WHATABURGER is the way to go.

QUOTE]

Don't forget the Sonic Double Bacon Cheeseburger! My Mobius ownen friend an I tend to indulge on them quite ofter after a late summer night run. The Mobius is a quaility price point boat. I kinda admire that they decided to bring a boat to the market to drive the IO folks to direct drive boats.

BriEOD
01-13-2006, 02:11 PM
I stand corrected...as you saw in the other posts it is a bad morning. Thanks for the catch.
It's a good point. I found the exampe very humorous!

Matt L.
01-13-2006, 05:58 PM
The only Moomba I ever saw was on10/23/2005 at Rosevelt Lake East of Phoenix. It was being towed in by no less than a wornout ols Bayliner! Boat looked pretty cool. But I'll take my 16 year old MC 240SC, that has never been towed in (but I'm a bit fanatical about maintainence) and still looks brand new! I just nee the $$$s to put a tower on it!

The Moomba is in the pic at the link below. Right at the top being towed by the white Bayliner. Met the guy at a party over Christmas, small talk about boats wakeboarding, skiing, etc., he was embarrased when I put it together that it was his boat I had a pic of being towed.

Matt

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lfootmatt/detail?.dir=1ec5&.dnm=ca88.jpg

rodltg2
01-13-2006, 06:06 PM
i never seen your model boat before matt.

mplv
01-13-2006, 07:25 PM
damn a diffrent matt l

pilot02
01-13-2006, 08:07 PM
Seriously though ... the Single with Cheese From Wendy's is hands down better than the 1/4 Pounder from McDonalds, and the Wopper is a distant third ... now when it comes to breakfast, you just can't touch BK and the French Toast Sticks!

Hmmm .... Chick-fil-at Chicken Biscuit and sausage burrito..... YUMMMM!

rodltg2
01-13-2006, 08:16 PM
chick a fila just came into twon, havent tried yet

88 PS190
01-13-2006, 09:25 PM
question, to MC wakeboats use a pump to fill the ballast or is just from water pressure. I've noticed that moombas use the equivalent of an automatic lawn sprinkler valve. then when the solinoid kicks over they fill.

Hoosier Bob
01-13-2006, 09:33 PM
If I remember correctly growing up in Ohio she is a very chunky freak! If that is your thing? Hopefully a freak none the less! :D

:uglyhamme I think that is the true reason for the late night drive up window, they just won't say! And Wendy is a freak! (her idea I bet!)

Hoosier Bob
01-13-2006, 09:34 PM
Very cool! Great food! Love the chips/fries!

chick a fila just came into twon, havent tried yet

6ballsisall
01-13-2006, 10:30 PM
Sales laws (as true as any in physics):
1) Nothing is worth more than what someone will pay for it at that point in time.
2) Resale value over time is greatest determiner of quality and desirability. Free markets doesn't lie.

Apply the rules to the brands mentioned in this post...

I think this calls for a TRU DAT :wavey:

6ballsisall
01-13-2006, 10:31 PM
Not sure, but I think Runza's have not so much nationwide presence. As soon as I saw someone mention Runza, I knew you were from Nebraska. I lived in Omaha all my life, went to UNL. Love Runza's... :)

Do you remember King's?

Born in Imperial, NE myself. Still have family in Aurora, NE. Wife has family in Seward, NE.

Nice to see a fellow husker on here :wavey:

ski_king
01-14-2006, 07:09 PM
Example of 2000 Moomba flotation....
http://www.laketow.com/images/2000skiboat/MVC-691S.JPG


Example of 1980 MasterCraft
http://www.tmcowners.com/photopost/data/500/medium/1980.jpg
Any questions?

Workin' 4 Toys
01-14-2006, 07:25 PM
question, to MC wakeboats use a pump to fill the ballast or is just from water pressure. I've noticed that moombas use the equivalent of an automatic lawn sprinkler valve. then when the solinoid kicks over they fill.
Yes, MC uses pumps.....pump in, and pump out.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-14-2006, 07:32 PM
Moo owners don't nec. think they have an inferior boat. I know someone that bought a Moo, and found out I have a MC, and tells me "Sorry to hear that". Now I am not one to confront stupidity, so I let it go.
And he offered to tell me he dropped almost $30K on it new 2 years ago.

Now if there was any point in the conversation that needed a valid "Sorry to hear that" that would have been the right time. But I refrained.

Matt L.
01-15-2006, 02:23 AM
i never seen your model boat before matt.


Yep, and you're not likely to see another one like it. I've only seen 2, the first was a bowrider on Beaver Lake, Arkansas, the second I bought. 1990 MC Maristar 240SC.

They made them from 1989 - 1993, in 93 only like 30 Anniversary editions were made. 96"beam 24"10" plus the swim platform true direct drive with a cuddy cabin. The HO454 makes it nice and it handles very nicely for such a big pig of a ski boat. The wake isn't as good as a PS190 but a little messing with the rope length will put you in a pretty flat wake.

At wakeboard speeds it throws a huge steep and crudless wake bigger than a Malibu wakesetter w/ the Wedge or an X30. Kinda pisses people off who spent 3 to 4 times as much on their boat who ask me what model my "New" mastercraft is. Because it truly does look and perform like new! Until the X80 it was the biggest MC ever made, Kinda pissed me off when they took away that distinction. I'd only ever upgrade if they made the X-80 in a cuddy cabin. The lines are there, I think it would look great, and w/ the twin engine and bow thruster, slow speed handling would be a dream. Mine handles very predictibly at slow speeds even in the wind. I can flip it and back the swimplatform into a dock to p/u passengers with ease. I also got a telescoping dock hook to help with docking.

Later,

Matt

rodltg2
01-15-2006, 02:33 AM
nice, its cool to have something unique.

jimmer2880
01-15-2006, 03:07 PM
Moo owners don't nec. think they have an inferior boat. I know someone that bought a Moo, and found out I have a MC, and tells me "Sorry to hear that". Now I am not one to confront stupidity, so I let it go.
And he offered to tell me he dropped almost $30K on it new 2 years ago.

Now if there was any point in the conversation that needed a valid "Sorry to hear that" that would have been the right time. But I refrained.

I hear you. None of the MANY moomba owners I know seem to think their boat is inferior to any MC, Nautique, 'bu, etc. They think "they're all about the same".

Yea... keep on thinking that. That's why my 11 year old MC looks better than your 5 year old Moomba.

Matt L.
01-15-2006, 06:17 PM
I think a lot of the MC owners out there take obsessive care of there boats, but. Our family had an 89 Tristar 190 from ~94 - 99. Bro-in-law bought a brand new Malibu Wakesetter. It was a great looking boat, but there was a quality difference. The interior on the Malibu would split at the slightest touch. The 190 was perfect when they got it and after 10 years was still perfect when they sold it. The Malibu had 6-7 tears w/in the first year. Sold it in 03 and bought a slightly used X30, back to a superior interior and boat.

The only Malibu and other ski boats I've seen as old as my 1990 looked like crap. Granted mine did take a lot of TLC to get it back to new appearance. Still, I see perfect old MCs all the time, but never others. Why?