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amber 6
12-29-2005, 10:46 AM
Started work on the boat for this winter and removed my alternator and starter for refurbishment. On removing the starter there is a light brown liquid on the flywheel and starter is this normal? Any advice please.

Footin
12-29-2005, 10:52 AM
Is it motor oil? If so your rear main seal of the motor may be leaking.

amber 6
12-29-2005, 10:59 AM
Should there be any fluid in this area or should it be dry the boat is a 1982 Stars and stripes which I have only owned for one year. Last year was stringer and floor replacement so this year its the turn of the engine.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 11:00 AM
How much "liquid" did you find? Have you found the motor "using" oil in the past?

So far, its sounds like a rear main. (Not enough of a problem to deem a rebuild in my perspective, or at least from my view or lack thereof)

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 11:01 AM
In theory, it should be dry.

amber 6
12-29-2005, 11:08 AM
Ta! The fluid was light chocolate, it used little oil during 2 months use however I dont know how long it has been like it. So If it should be dry I may clean it and see what happens after a run or two?

Footin
12-29-2005, 11:10 AM
If there is a bad oil leak you should have seen oil in the bilge.

amber 6
12-29-2005, 11:16 AM
No other signs only when I removed the starter and seen it on the fly wheel and starter.

bigmac
12-29-2005, 11:23 AM
Started work on the boat for this winter and removed my alternator and starter for refurbishment. On removing the starter there is a light brown liquid on the flywheel and starter is this normal? Any advice please.

Hmmm...doesn't sound right. Any significant amount of oil in the bellhousing raises the issue of a transmission seal leak, and the fact that it's light brown raises the question of water contamination of the tranny oil. Could be double trouble...

JimN
12-29-2005, 11:44 AM
What does the liquid feel like, oil or water? If it's water, it could be condensation and rust. It could also be a leaking plug on the rear of the block or bilge water, which builds up in the housing between the transmission and motor if the water gets deeper than the bottom of the housing. Every time the crank turns, it slings the water up and coats everything, and then it rusts. Remove the spark plugs and manually rotate the crank counterclockwise (looking from the front). Is the flywheel dry toward the top?

I don't know if you do this, but the starter Bendix and gear are supposed to be lubricated at least once per year as a regular maintenance procedure.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 12:06 PM
Ta! The fluid was light chocolate, it used little oil during 2 months use however I dont know how long it has been like it. So If it should be dry I may clean it and see what happens after a run or two?
POST A "thousand dollars worth of info" picture....

amber 6
12-29-2005, 12:06 PM
Ta every one again just checked again the fluid is very thin feels like water and may have been here for sometime it lyes at the bottom of the fly wheel and so the flywheel and starter was coated with it. I didnt want to remove it because I did not know if the area should have been dry. I will now clean it is there a way of checking the seals please.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 12:11 PM
Post a picture before you clean it!!!!

amber 6
12-29-2005, 12:32 PM
Sorry only picture at the moment is this of the starter the boat is 30 miles away and its -4 and snowing and dark so I will post one tomorrow.

amber 6
12-29-2005, 12:36 PM
Sorry the picture

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 01:05 PM
WHOW, alittle father away would be good. My eyes hurt....

flipper
12-29-2005, 01:53 PM
Hard to tell from the pic, but I would think there would be oil all over the bildge if it were and oil leak. I bet water and rust. It may be getting the brown color from lube from last years winterization. Mine also had a little brown color to it from the same thing, but it was dry already, no oil.

OhioProstar
12-29-2005, 02:00 PM
It looks like someone over greased the bendix unit and water has changed the lube color. What color is your engine oil? Is is brownish white at all on the dip stick?

amber 6
12-30-2005, 11:59 AM
No checked dipstick oil is fine . Should the tab at the base of the flywheel cover act as a drain when I checked mine the cover was sealed.

JimN
12-30-2005, 12:31 PM
Is it just my monitor or does it have a pinkish hue? If it's pink, it's tranny fluid and is usually caused by a leaky front seal. If the tranny uses 20W oil, it won't be brown, but you should check the tranny oil, just to make sure it doesn't have water in it from a blown oil cooler. It'll look the same as what you have on the starter gear and flywheel. It shouldn't look like that. That's more than what would be there from overgreasing the gear during winterization.

amber 6
12-30-2005, 01:38 PM
No Tranny fluid red. So should the flywheel area be dry and should it be able to drain at the tab at the bottom of the flywheel housing Pic 2.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-30-2005, 03:14 PM
Looks like rust to me.

flipper
12-30-2005, 03:46 PM
The fly wheel should be dry, I thought mine was sealed so water won't get in there. :confused:

Cloaked
12-31-2005, 04:27 PM
Looks like rust to me.Word.........