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Footin
12-29-2005, 10:12 AM
I just got mine for last month....HOLY #%$^!!!!!!!!!! Highest gas bill I have had in 8 years in this house.

The Gas Company should have a notice on the outside of the bill reading: "Better sit down when opening this envelope"

djhuff
12-29-2005, 10:33 AM
NO CRAP. We used 30% more this year too, along with the price hike.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 10:36 AM
Mine was the highest ever too. I think $150. And that's with R60 in the attic and the house so tight it........ Well let's just say it pretty efficient.

Footin
12-29-2005, 10:37 AM
Mine was 323.00.

Leroy
12-29-2005, 10:43 AM
Mine was $283. Also a high for me. Would have been higher but just installed programmable thermostats.

Tom023
12-29-2005, 10:45 AM
Mine was $160, thermostat set at 68...and I'm in Houston!

Footin
12-29-2005, 10:46 AM
I even kept mine set at 66, needles to say it's at 64 now and the family is complaining there cold..........they can pay it next month.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 10:48 AM
I guess temp would make a big difference. Our is programmable too, put in day one of ownership. We keep it at 72 except for about 4 hours in the middle of the day then 68. When it gets to below zero, it runs often. I guess burning a NG fireplace doesn't help, should have went with wood... Nah...

Dan K
12-29-2005, 10:54 AM
Awhile back we had a discussion on ways to lower the heat bills.
Lower your Heat bills (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=5451&highlight=insulation)

I ended up adding a 50 bags of cellulous insulation, haven't seen this months bill but the November bill was lower based upon heating degree days. we have had more heating degree days this year compared to last for both November and December (essentially it is colder) for our area of the country.
Will update everyone once my bill comes in.
I would be interested in knowing how many square feet you are all heating with the prices you are throwing out.

Footin
12-29-2005, 10:57 AM
About 2,700 square feet includeing the finished basement.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Awhile back we had a discussion on ways to lower the heat bills.
Lower your Heat bills (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=5451&highlight=insulation)

I ended up adding a 50 bags of cellulous insulation, haven't seen this months bill but the November bill was lower based upon heating degree days. we have had more heating degree days this year compared to last for both November and December (essentially it is colder) for our area of the country.
Will update everyone once my bill comes in.
I would be interested in knowing how many square feet you are all heating with the prices you are throwing out.
I think living space of mine is about 1800 if I recall, not including the crawl, or basement, which both get heated equally as well. But they too have been reinsulated when the attic was redone.

Footin
12-29-2005, 11:02 AM
For those of you adding insulation or other energy reducing features:

If I read the 2006 tax code correctly, you can deduct up to $2,000 for these improvements.

No, I am not an Accountant, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

ntidsl
12-29-2005, 11:02 AM
I'm in the greater cincy area. I have a brother in law who keeps his set at 60 degrees and his gas and electric was $450 last month...ouch..told him he should get new windows!

I had my propane refilled for the first time since february on the 17th of December and it cost me $320. I burn wood 24/7. My electric bill was $64.00 last month...and our house is usually 70-76 degrees. I pay my boat payment with what I save on energy. Plus if the electric goes out, no big deal...I'm still toasty!

John B
12-29-2005, 11:11 AM
Mine has been about haft of what they last year.
My thermostat stay at 60,last year it was at 70 most of the time.
But the thing is winter still not hit here in the So. California Mountains. :D

Leroy
12-29-2005, 11:13 AM
Heating 6200 sq ft, I know, too much. Program comes on from 6-8AM and then from 5-10PM 70 on, 60 off. We had a very cold last month. I still think I am losing heat out the bath room vents.

ski_king
12-29-2005, 11:44 AM
I switched to the budget plan last year so the hurt dosent feel so bad, but it is stil there when I look at the big picture.
The budget started out at $93/month, now it is up to $128.

I do miss those $20.00 summer gas bill though.

I think I have R40 something in the attic and 0 in the walls. The walls are about 7 in. solid log, so that isnt so bad.

east tx skier
12-29-2005, 11:49 AM
Mine was significantly higher last winter. This winter is on par with that. Still more than I want to pay.

milkmania
12-29-2005, 12:41 PM
Heating 6200 sq ft, I know, too much. Program comes on from 6-8AM and then from 5-10PM 70 on, 60 off. We had a very cold last month. I still think I am losing heat out the bath room vents.

6200 sqft?!?!?

can I come stay with you:eek:

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 01:07 PM
6200 sqft?!?!?

can I come stay with you:eek:

He must be including the B0mb shelter..........;)

6ballsisall
12-29-2005, 01:43 PM
I am all electric, those electric heat pumps really arent very effecient at all.

Seems like my electric bill comes in at around $185-$200

AirJunky
12-29-2005, 01:53 PM
I burn wood 24/7. My electric bill was $64.00 last month...and our house is usually 70-76 degrees. I pay my boat payment with what I save on energy. Plus if the electric goes out, no big deal...I'm still toasty!
Yea, but what do you pay for wood? Plus the truck, gas, chainsaw, gas & your time? Not to mention the place to store it?

2100 sq ft & our combined gas & electric was about $280. Gas fireplace works when the power goes out..... but in 2 yrs of living there the power has never gone out for more than a couple minutes.

Workin' 4 Toys
12-29-2005, 02:04 PM
I am all electric, those electric heat pumps really arent very effecient at all.

Seems like my electric bill comes in at around $185-$200
PTAC's? Or whole house unit?

6ballsisall
12-29-2005, 02:08 PM
PTAC's? Or whole house unit?


Don't know what PTAC is but I have heat pump for the whole house. Works fine til it gets down in the low 30's and then it runs non stop trying to play catchup.

Leroy
12-29-2005, 02:15 PM
Sure Milk!.

I grew up very different in 900sqft and our only heat was fireplace for half of that space. Bedrooms were not heated. I've spent many years chainsawing, gathering firewood, carrying it in, etc. There are times I think/wish I was doing that again......


6200 sqft?!?!?

can I come stay with you:eek:

flipper
12-29-2005, 03:03 PM
ah, the benefits of renting a house where the gas/electric is paid. People say I'm dumb for renting and not buying, but everytime power bills or the gardener show up, it all seems worth it to me!

Ryan
12-29-2005, 03:03 PM
Mine was 323.00.

And they say it doesn't get very cold in Columbus....Hah! :D

Footin
12-29-2005, 03:25 PM
We did have a colder than normal December.

Yesterday was 60.

Ric
12-29-2005, 04:19 PM
I've not opened my bill out of fear
It's been a frigid 50 quite a bit around here and I know that katrina refugees are living in more efficient structures than mine!

Foiler
12-29-2005, 06:31 PM
Yea, but what do you pay for wood? Plus the truck, gas, chainsaw, gas & your time? Not to mention the place to store it?

2100 sq ft & our combined gas & electric was about $280. Gas fireplace works when the power goes out..... but in 2 yrs of living there the power has never gone out for more than a couple minutes.

I burn wood also and haven't had a gas bill in 6 years.

A gallon of gas for the chainsaw= $2.19
A new chain= $20.00
3 or 4 Saturdays to cut enough wood for the winter(good exercise)=$0
NO HEATING BILLS= PRICELESS!
.

milkmania
12-29-2005, 06:37 PM
Sure Milk!.

I grew up very different in 900sqft and our only heat was fireplace for half of that space. Bedrooms were not heated. I've spent many years chainsawing, gathering firewood, carrying it in, etc. There are times I think/wish I was doing that again......

so you make up for it with 900 sqft closets?:purplaugh

milkmania
12-29-2005, 06:38 PM
Don't know what PTAC is but I have heat pump for the whole house. Works fine til it gets down in the low 30's and then it runs non stop trying to play catchup.

same here, with a propane wall furnace in the den (I'll never forget the Ice Storm of 99-00) I was total electric then:(

André
12-29-2005, 07:04 PM
I burn wood also and haven't had a gas bill in 6 years.

A gallon of gas for the chainsaw= $2.19
A new chain= $20.00
3 or 4 Saturdays to cut enough wood for the winter(good exercise)=$0
NO HEATING BILLS= PRICELESS!
.

Totally right!
Plus my High efficiency EPA approved living room fireplace will give more ambiance to the house that any other heating device!

Leroy
12-29-2005, 08:32 PM
My wife's friends say I have this complex, forget the name.....



so you make up for it with 900 sqft closets?:purplaugh

mgurley
12-30-2005, 12:16 PM
I have Heat Pumps with gas piggyback and I am very pleased. Basically when the temps get down to around 35 degrees heat pumps lose their efficiency which is where the heat strips usually kick in scyrocketing your power bill. With the gas piggyback the gas burners kick in instead of heat strips until the temp outside reaches a point where the heat pump can be efficient again. Works great! Gas bill was 58 dollars power bill was $160. 3000 sq/ft. Been fairly cold in Bama up until this week also.

ntidsl
12-30-2005, 12:51 PM
Sorry been gone for a few days...I pay $250 for 4 tons of wood delivered to my house every september. Its cut and split hardwood. I wish I had the time to cut and split it myself but Id rather be skiing extra runs in the fall. Its a freestanding fireplace and I just run the furnace fan to circulate the heat. Its a brand new(3 years old) 4000 square foot house so that helps. Last night when I went to bed the great room was 78 and the bedroom was 74. It went down to 28 degrees and the furnace never kicked on. It was 70 in the house when I woke up and the thermostat was set at 68 degrees.

It used to be cheaper to run gas but I don't see those days ever coming back.

mattsn
12-30-2005, 04:26 PM
I heat 2700+ with GeoThermal. Pump 56 degree water out of well, through Geo and empty back into the lake. Full electrict with 2 hot water heaters. (one is free from Geo). NE Indiana, last month TOTAL electric heat bill was $67. Never had one over $90.

btmag
12-30-2005, 04:42 PM
I also have a GeoThermal unit. Mine is lines laid in the ditches and not in the well. 4300+ sq. ft., but my bill runs about $225 during the really cold and hot months. About $125 the rest of the time. But note I'm in Arkansas and weather is pretty mild here in the winter. Also, I'm all electric.

Leroy
12-30-2005, 04:53 PM
That's great Mattsn! Which system or did you make your own?



I heat 2700+ with GeoThermal. Pump 56 degree water out of well, through Geo and empty back into the lake. Full electrict with 2 hot water heaters. (one is free from Geo). NE Indiana, last month TOTAL electric heat bill was $67. Never had one over $90.

Ric
12-30-2005, 05:03 PM
My wife's friends say I have this complex, forget the name.....
do they give you the ol' pinkie wave Leroy?

Dan K
01-10-2006, 08:58 PM
OK, as I said earlier I would update once the December bill arrived.
Ouch !!!!
Gas Bill is $345 for heating around 5000 Sq Ft. this is double last years bill.
I checked Heating Degree Reference (http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/cdus/degree_days/) and found that last year I had 1089 Heating Degree Days and 1212 this year in December.

Gotta find a better way....

BriEOD
01-10-2006, 09:52 PM
I just got mine for last month....HOLY #%$^!!!!!!!!!! Highest gas bill I have had in 8 years in this house.

The Gas Company should have a notice on the outside of the bill reading: "Better sit down when opening this envelope"
Yeah, I about sh*t myself. Highest we've ever had.

stevo137
01-11-2006, 10:04 AM
Our highest bill ever, $490 estimated bill which will adjust on the next bill. I guess they couldn't get in the back to read the meter due to the snow in December.
Our highest bill is normally in the $350 range.
Appr. 2600 square feet not including the finished basement.
I should probably do another layer in the attics and the fireplace is large and lets some cold air in.
We have been enjoying temps above freezing for some time now and it seems like the furnace rarely turns on once it gets in the 30's-40's.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-11-2006, 10:07 AM
$200.00 this time around. Dec. was much colder than Jan so far. Should get me a break on next month's.....

ski_king
01-11-2006, 10:46 AM
When I built my house I set it up for a wood burner. Never wanted bothered with all the work and dirt involved.
I think I will be installing either a wood burner or pellet stove over the summer. I will probobly go wood as I have a near endless supply of wood on my property.

While I have been having hugh gas bill, my neighbor who supliments his heat with a wood burner has been paying minimum amounts this winter. (He was complaining about his $75.00 bill)

ntidsl
01-11-2006, 11:13 AM
My highest bill was this month...$74.50...wood baby...the best way to go, unless you are talking stringers...Wasnt paying attention last night and got the house to 81 degrees before I went to bed...oooppsss...it was 74 when I woke up...34 outside...it was a warm night and I forgot and fed the fire at 7pm...I shouldnt have obviously!!!

The only reason my electric is that high though is because I have 3000 watts of outdoor lighting burning half the night...I own a landscape lighting distibution business.

Leroy
01-11-2006, 11:30 AM
Could be Ric, I didn't see them talking....



do they give you the ol' pinkie wave Leroy?

Maristar210
01-11-2006, 01:10 PM
$358 and I ain't happy

Dan K
01-11-2006, 01:16 PM
Maristar,
How many sq ft are you heating ?