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BriEOD
12-07-2005, 04:15 PM
You guys see this: Air Marshal (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,177996,00.html)

Leroy
12-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Job well done! Was probably some crazy and there wasn't even a bomb. Will be interesting to see.

BriEOD
12-07-2005, 04:23 PM
I agree Leroy.

erkoehler
12-07-2005, 04:29 PM
Shoot first, ask questions later......it helps if the guy lives, but oh well.

bcampbe7
12-07-2005, 04:31 PM
Job well done!
I also agree...

rodltg2
12-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Job well done! Was probably some crazy and there wasn't even a bomb. Will be interesting to see.


you cant mess around at the airport . this a lesson for all to see what happens.

bcampbe7
12-07-2005, 04:37 PM
you cant mess around at the airport . this a lesson for all to see what happens.


I'm sure some "bomber rights" group is going to say there was no reason for them to fire on the guy. :rolleyes:

jmyers
12-07-2005, 04:52 PM
I guess he picked the wrong flight to pull that S**T on! :noface:

Leroy
12-07-2005, 04:52 PM
I was stranded in Brussels at 9/11, travelled that fall when I was one of 3 or 4 on any plane....I can think of a Saw, the movie, type scenario for the bomber right's guy.

I'm sure some "bomber rights" group is going to say there was no reason for them to fire on the guy. :rolleyes:

M-Funf
12-07-2005, 04:53 PM
I also agree...

Me, too...

rodltg2, you're exatcly right! No matter how crazy the guy was, the Marshall's did the right thing...

M-Funf
12-07-2005, 04:55 PM
I was stranded in Brussels at 9/11, travelled that fall when I was one of 3 or 4 on any plane....

I know how you feel. I was on a flight with two co-workers from Frankfurt to SFO when it happened, we rerouted to Reykjavik, Iceland and landed there...stranded for 5 days...

Datdude
12-07-2005, 04:56 PM
it's called "Natural Selection"

It will be interesting to see if they find a bomb...........

jmyers
12-07-2005, 05:06 PM
it's called "Natural Selection"

It will be interesting to see if they find a bomb...........
Really who care's if they find a bomb or not! Especially in today's world, make the threat and everyone herd it sounds justified to me! :D Sorry if that's not all fuzzy and warm, but that's what I think! :twocents:

Tom023
12-07-2005, 05:16 PM
It shows that even the marshalls don't believe the security screening process works well...and we were thought to believe it was working by taking our nail clippers.

east tx skier
12-07-2005, 05:17 PM
So far, from my browsing, I've read that the guy may have had mental problems (ya think) and that there was no bomb. Still, from what I've read, sounds like they did the right thing to me. That one time they hesitate, it could get ugly quick. Still, sad situation.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051208/D8EBPR300.html

RackAtak
12-07-2005, 05:31 PM
..............

BriEOD
12-07-2005, 06:41 PM
So far, from my browsing, I've read that the guy may have had mental problems (ya think) and that there was no bomb. Still, from what I've read, sounds like they did the right thing to me. That one time they hesitate, it could get ugly quick.
Unfortunately (you probably know better than most) someone from the ACLU will raise hell about this. Although, it sounds like it was a Colombian guy.

sten76
12-07-2005, 07:54 PM
I travel alomst every week on the airlines, it makes me feel more comfortable knowing we have people not taking any sh*t. It is not advised to fool around whether you have a bomb or not. hopefully this will encourage any other crazies not to travel...

Upper Michigan Prostar190
12-07-2005, 07:55 PM
Unfortunately (you probably know better than most) someone from the ACLU will raise hell about this.

You can bet your bottom dollar on that Bri!!!!!! I would anticipate Jesse Jackson is picking out his favorite suit right now to wear on TV tomarrow when he starts beeyatching about it. you just KNOW he is gonna shove his nose in this :noface:

BriEOD
12-07-2005, 08:17 PM
Yepper... :mad:

milkmania
12-07-2005, 08:22 PM
S***.....I wouldn't even say the B word if I get on a plane:rolleyes:

bucky
12-07-2005, 08:32 PM
Understand, I agree the air marshall had no options, and I have no sympathy with any terrorists, but I see this as a tragedy.
The man was mentally ill, not a bomber. He had a wife who cared for him (and probably saw him get shot), probably family and friends, and a life. His condition was treatable, but undoubtably aggravated by the stress of air travel, and if he'd just taken the bus, he would be somewhere enjoying whatever vacation he and his wife had planned.:twocents:

BriEOD
12-07-2005, 08:36 PM
S***.....I wouldn't even say the B word if I get on a plane:rolleyes:

Meet the Fockers: Bomb ba da bomb, bomb, bomb!

BuoyChaser
12-07-2005, 10:31 PM
or was it a conspiracy theory, were there any physical witnesses of the guy being shot...maybe just a ploy to convince terrorists not to even think of trying anything...the old WILD WEST philosophy...anyway heard from any family members...BUCKY you indicated something about a wife...haven't read or heard of any stories, like brother conversations or wife testimonials...

i agree KILL the TOWELHEADS or anyone who threatens Americans from having a good time!!!

Farmer Ted
12-07-2005, 10:54 PM
or was it a conspiracy theory, were there any physical witnesses of the guy being shot...maybe just a ploy to convince terrorists not to even think of trying anything...the old WILD WEST philosophy...anyway heard from any family members...BUCKY you indicated something about a wife...haven't read or heard of any stories, like brother conversations or wife testimonials...

i agree KILL the TOWELHEADS or anyone who threatens Americans from having a good time!!!

Here's an interesting take on Terrorists, definately NOT SAFE FOR WORK or if there's a kid within an earshot....

The Bigman on Terrorists (mms://68.178.174.134/BigMan/Terrorists.wmv)

Farmer Ted
12-07-2005, 10:57 PM
Also a good listen, NOT SAFE FOR WORK or KIDS
Batday (mms://68.178.174.134/BigMan/BatDay.WMV)

east tx skier
12-08-2005, 12:05 AM
Unfortunately (you probably know better than most) someone from the ACLU will raise hell about this. Although, it sounds like it was a Colombian guy.

U.S. citizen (originally Costa Rican) from suburban Orlando on a mission trip to Ecuador.

brianlbrown
12-08-2005, 12:45 AM
Just goes to show that bi-polar disorder can kill you....

Ron Grover
12-08-2005, 09:03 AM
That's what you call real gun control. The marshal hit what he was shooting at

east tx skier
12-08-2005, 11:39 AM
Just goes to show that bi-polar disorder can kill you....

I had a co-worker once who was undiagnosed (at the time) bi-polar. It was unbelievablely sad to watch that decline in someone's ability to cope/work, etc. This is an extreme case and a sad result. But that's the way that goes. I can't say that the air marshall should've been expected to react any differently than he did.

OhioProstar
12-08-2005, 11:50 AM
Apparently the wife was running down the aisle after him yelling that he was mentally unstable. I don't think it changes the decision the marshall made, as the lady could have been a plant to give him more time...but sad none the less. Both the family of the Marshall and the "alleged bomber" will have some tough times ahead. First time a Marshall fired a round on a moving plane..BTW.

east tx skier
12-08-2005, 12:05 PM
I thought he was shot on the jetway?

Just to continue on this topic, just because he was mentally unstable doesn't mean he might not have had a bomb.

Just one of those hard, fast rules we have to live by here these days. And if there is any possibility that a person, due to a mental disorder or otherwise, will cause a comotion on an airplane, it's a mode of transportation he should avoid. Of course, everyone I've seen interviewed said they'd have never thought in a million years that this guy would do something like this. Way it goes though.

jmyers
12-08-2005, 12:39 PM
Any time someone is killed it is a tradgedy! Life is a very precious thing, but some people don't see it that way! I travel with my family and their safety is #1 with me, and I would bet that was the first thing running through the air marshals mind '"the safety of everyone around" He did what he had to do! I would hope if that happened while I was traveling it would be handeled EXACTLY the same way!

Upper Michigan Prostar190
12-08-2005, 12:57 PM
I agree with you eastie, all the way. Its very sad, and unfortunate, but there wasnt much else they could have done to prevent it. In this day and age, air security is SUPER important and they cant take chances. I cant see where they could have handled it better. :twocents:

Ric
12-08-2005, 01:09 PM
this was the first shooting of a man, but a month ago, air marshalls had to shoot a dog in the terminal baggage staging area at Ohare

jmyers
12-08-2005, 01:20 PM
this was the first shooting of a man, but a month ago, air marshalls had to shoot a dog in the terminal baggage staging area at Ohare
Now that's different! That's just not right! :mad: Poor little dog :(

Ric
12-08-2005, 01:28 PM
Reportedly a border collie I think

jmyers
12-08-2005, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=Ric]Reportedly a border collie I think[/QUO

Oh not Lassie! :noface:

gene dobies
12-08-2005, 01:34 PM
Anyone ever think, maybe, suicide "by air marshall"?

Upper Michigan Prostar190
12-08-2005, 01:47 PM
Anyone ever think, maybe, suicide "by air marshall"?

interesting thought

baedriver
12-08-2005, 01:49 PM
I have sat next to air marshalls before 99% of the time it is uneventful but there could be that one time. and there it was he did the smart thing. If he didn't do it what would the public and terrorist think! Smart thing all the way

Rockman
12-08-2005, 01:53 PM
Seriously though...

5 caps in a crazy, unsafe passenger's a$$ = $1.50

1 unsafe, crazy passenger...dead = $0

125 safe passengers = priceless

Odds look like the Marshall did the right thing in my book.

east tx skier
12-08-2005, 02:34 PM
Anyone ever think, maybe, suicide "by air marshall"?

Yeah, but which flights have air marshals on them is a pretty closely guarded secret. Pick the wrong flight and you could end up in Guantanamo for the next 30 years.

Ric
12-08-2005, 02:49 PM
Dammit I was hoping Ump would take the bait on the dog story (which I made up by the way... There is no truth to the rumor of a dog name revelie being shot by air marshalls)

Upper Michigan Prostar190
12-08-2005, 03:32 PM
Ric, I was about 2 seconds from hoping all over that post, but I had a customer come in. So I will give you the satisfaction of knowing it worked. you got me, hook, line, and sinker. Congrats!!! :)

east tx skier
12-08-2005, 03:34 PM
Nice, Ric.

Ric
12-08-2005, 04:11 PM
Ric, I was about 2 seconds from hoping all over that post, but I had a customer come in. So I will give you the satisfaction of knowing it worked. you got me, hook, line, and sinker. Congrats!!! :)
whew I thought I'd lost my powers :o

jimmer2880
12-08-2005, 06:07 PM
Seriously though...

5 caps in a crazy, unsafe passenger's a$$ = $1.50

1 unsafe, crazy passenger...dead = $0

125 safe passengers = priceless

Odds look like the Marshall did the right thing in my book.

As I'm packing my things to fly home tomorrow -

I'll drink to that! :toast:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
12-08-2005, 07:02 PM
whew I thought I'd lost my powers :o

Nope, you still got em Ric. I am not afraid to say when I have been fooled.

UMP

Cloaked
12-08-2005, 07:57 PM
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==> He just picked the wrong flight <== (http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm) :D

Ric
12-09-2005, 09:08 AM
Nope, you still got em Ric. I am not afraid to say when I have been fooled.

UMP
Woof .

milkmania
12-17-2005, 05:09 PM
Remember what I said about not even saying the "B" word on an airplane???

Bomb Remark Causes Calif. Plane Evacuation

December 17, 2005, 1:26 AM EST

BURBANK, Calif. -- A Southwest Airlines jet was evacuated Friday on a taxiway after flight attendants overheard a comment about a bomb, but a search of the plane found nothing.

Flight 2074 to Las Vegas departed nearly five hours late after bomb-sniffing dogs searched the plane and found nothing, Southwest Airlines spokeswoman Beth Harbin said.

"Our people are very alert and did what they needed to in this case," she said.

A passenger was arrested for investigation of making false bomb threats, Burbank Airport Police Sgt. Ernest Siy. The man, whom he declined to identify, was held at city jail, Siy said.

The Southwest flight was preparing to take off with about 130 passengers when it halted on the taxiway.

"We saw cop cars pulling up next to us and looking at the plane," passenger Jenny Richman said by cell phone. "Then the officers came on with loaded weapons and escorted several people off."

The passengers evacuated using a mobile staircase brought to the jet's rear door, said Jennifer Peppin, a spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration.