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cencalboats
07-08-2014, 07:50 PM
I have a very nice mastercraft 1978 it has the following

Bimini top matches paint job
New paint with house of kolor on a red base and several coats of clear, done by body a paint guy. Good quality paint and clear.
New pin stripping
New Graphics stars and logos.
Rear teak deck sanded and varnished with marine varnish
Repainted swim deck brackets and new stainless screws to deck.
New Prop.
Engine has a newer rebuild not sure exactly how many hours on it.
Stainless tall wakeboard pole
Newer stereo and speakers.
Edelbrock carb and mallory unilte.
Has a bypass to hook up water at your home to run engine built in.

It needs speedos looked at as either of them work.

Trailer is very solid paint is not the greatest faded not much rust.
Needs wheels and tires.

Thanks in advance I am curious what everyone thinks it is worth, I have it for sale for 6000 and I will throw in and new set of wheels and tires. Just curious if everyone thought that was fair or I am out of line. There is alot of time tied up in this boat, it is in all honesty a very clean nice old boat runs great to.

thatsmrmastercraft
07-08-2014, 08:07 PM
Nice looking '78. This will be a difficult boat to put a price on due to it being painted. The varnish on the teak platform will be viewed by some as a negative as well. On the positive side, it looks very clean and complete. The Escort 351 is a nice touch as well. This is a genuine case of a boat being worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Does it have metalflake paint? Good luck with the sale.

cencalboats
07-08-2014, 08:14 PM
Yes real nice metal flake paint very sparkely in the sun it dances, we live in central california where its always in the 100 degree range and blistering sun in the summer and the previous owner has sanded the metal flake stripe through the gel and then cleared it. There was nothing else to do but paint it. I have tried to teak oil and tung oil rear decks before but in this valley it lasts several months and looks bad again this has been the only way to keep them nice for my taste anyway.

ScrewPull
07-08-2014, 08:15 PM
Check your pitot tubes for obstruction. Take the pitots off and blow compressed air in tubes - your speedos should respond. If not, they're either disconnected somewhere, torn apart, or majorly obstructed. Clean pitots or get new ones (inexpensive) and replace. Replace tubes if they're compromised. Speedos should work. One of mine wouldn't register the same speed as the other. Completed the above and they both work perfectly. (1979 MC S&S)

cencalboats
07-08-2014, 08:16 PM
Is The Escort 351 a rare option or ??? we are mainly performance boat enthusist.

thatsmrmastercraft
07-08-2014, 08:17 PM
Those are definitely difficult conditions for a boat. Metalflake is always difficult to make show up in pictures. Sounds like a must see kind of boat.

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
07-08-2014, 08:25 PM
Is The Escort 351 a rare option or ??? we are mainly performance boat enthusist.

Escort was just another marine company like indmar, pleasure craft, etc. Holman Moody was the performance engine to have.

cencalboats
07-09-2014, 01:47 AM
Because I am curious why does repainting the stripes on a boat and varnishing the deck hurt the value of a boat. I build performance boats and all the 50,000 dollar plus boats new and vintage have full custom paint jobs, the better the paint job the more money.

thatsmrmastercraft
07-09-2014, 01:58 AM
Most of the followers of the old Mastercraft boats are purists and really want the original gel coat and oiled teak. Note that I said most. Didn't want this to sound like your boat isn't very nice, because it is a beautiful boat. Just going from what I know of the market.

cencalboats
07-09-2014, 02:07 AM
No problem, these are just 2 completely different worlds when it comes to performance boats and old mastercraft boats. So curious how much does it cost to re gel coat the stipes in metal flake on a boat like mine.

thatsmrmastercraft
07-09-2014, 02:10 AM
No problem, these are just 2 completely different worlds when it comes to performance boats and old mastercraft boats. So curious how much does it cost to re gel coat the stipes in metal flake on a boat like mine.

You hit the nail on the head here. Performance boats are all about customization and cool stuff.

I have no idea how much on the cost of re-gel coating, but I'm sure someone will chime in on that. There have been a few guys that have had that done.

Theomedic
07-12-2014, 07:15 PM
I sold a 78 earlier this year. It needed a lot of work but was mechanically sound. Everyone who called offered me $2k less than I wanted without even seeing it.... I wanted to sell quickly so I let it go cheap just so I could get the boat I wanted. Good luck with your sale!

cencalboats
07-14-2014, 12:37 PM
There is nothing else I really want other than maybe another mini day cruiser, I dropped the price today to 5000 so hopefully it finds a good home it is a very clean old boat.

ScrewPull
07-14-2014, 01:37 PM
I purchased my boat back in March of 2010 for $3850. The guy started at $5000 and was at $4000 when I contacted him. Granted, this was in 2010. The boat had 70 hours on a complete restoration. I was given a manilla folder with about an inch-and-a-half thick stack of receipts, etc. that was proof of all the work done.

I would say that you're in the right ballpark on your boat. I do agree with Mr. Mastercraft in reference to the paint and varnish subject, but I'm not really sure how much it will hurt. A newbie to the boat world, at the current price point, is not likely to care, particularly if he's done zero research.

Anyway, good luck with it. Looks quite nice from what I can tell.

mikeg205
07-14-2014, 02:04 PM
No problem, these are just 2 completely different worlds when it comes to performance boats and old mastercraft boats. So curious how much does it cost to re gel coat the stipes in metal flake on a boat like mine.

Re-gelling is difficult - spraying is not the issue - it's the sanding, sanding, sanding, buffing, buffing, buffing, waxing... ;)

This boat was regelled.

cencalboats
07-14-2014, 02:22 PM
How much money do you have tied up in doing a re-gel, is it something that can be done by someone who has never done it before.