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torbmi
06-20-2014, 11:53 AM
89 Tristar 190, Indmar 351. The battery connectors are pretty thrashed but the rest of the cable looks ok. Is replacing the cables the better way to go, or is putting new connectors on? If replacing the cables, is this complicated? Thanks.

JimN
06-20-2014, 12:00 PM
89 Tristar 190, Indmar 351. The battery connectors are pretty thrashed but the rest of the cable looks ok. Is replacing the cables the better way to go, or is putting new connectors on? If replacing the cables, is this complicated? Thanks.

Replacing the ends is like polishing a turd. Just replace them.

MLA
06-20-2014, 12:14 PM
If the cable can be cut back to where you have clean, uncorroded, unoxidized wire, and the cable is not cut too shot in the process, then I see no issue with putting a new end. The type of end and how its put on will determine the quality of the job. If too much cable needs to be removed, then a new cable is the way to go.

JimN
06-20-2014, 12:25 PM
If the cable can be cut back to where you have clean, uncorroded, unoxidized wire, and the cable is not cut too shot in the process, then I see no issue with putting a new end. The type of end and how its put on will determine the quality of the job. If too much cable needs to be removed, then a new cable is the way to go.

If you're referring to the clamp-on ends with two bolts, you need to realize that those aren't intended to be a permanent solution, just temporary. The vast majority of people don't have access to the correct crimper, nor the knowledge of the correct method of installing them. For the price, replacement makes a lot of sense, especially on an older boat and 25 years old is old enough, for OEM battery cables. IMO.

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 12:38 PM
If you're referring to the clamp-on ends with two bolts, you need to realize that those aren't intended to be a permanent solution, just temporary. The vast majority of people don't have access to the correct crimper, nor the knowledge of the correct method of installing them. For the price, replacement makes a lot of sense, especially on an older boat and 25 years old is old enough, for OEM battery cables. IMO.

Jim is 100% right on replacing them. I had some nice looking 1 gauge battery cables that came with my boat. Started having some slow starts and found that both had high resistance, even though the ends looked fine. Replaced them and everything is fine now. This is a small expense to ensure good starting.

CantRepeat
06-20-2014, 12:44 PM
If Jim was going to make a how to video this is it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vkwWuDRGE

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 12:56 PM
If Jim was going to make a how to video this is it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5vkwWuDRGE

Yeah, but Jim would never dull his pocket knife that way. :rolleyes:

CantRepeat
06-20-2014, 01:43 PM
Yeah, but Jim would never dull his pocket knife that way. :rolleyes:

I agree.

But back the OP. Those bolt on battery terminals are junk. If you have the small torch and some solder you can fix put new ends on the ones you currently have.

MLA
06-20-2014, 02:11 PM
If you're referring to the clamp-on ends with two bolts,

Thats your assumption, as i made no reference to any specific terminal type, nor do i know what type is currently on the OP's cable.

you need to realize that those aren't intended to be a permanent solution

You need to realize that you are not the only one around here that knows anything.

For the price, replacement makes a lot of sense

Unlike you, I did not dispute, argue or other wise take issue with what you posted. I do not disagree with your statement that replacing the cable makes sense, I simply posted a view that happen to differ. If you were replace a receptacle at the house, would you tear the walls down to rewire with whole house, just because it was 25 years old? I will stand behind my post, if the cable is found to be in good shape, no reason a new end cannot be put on. A tinned copper eyelet thats soldered on, with a section gel-filled heatshrink bridged from the terminal to the insulation to seal the gap. Do it every day with no special tools. If the OP cuts some cable back and it still looks suspect, then by all means, replace the whole cable.

Ya'll have a great weekend,

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 03:20 PM
Thats your assumption, as i made no reference to any specific terminal type, nor do i know what type is currently on the OP's cable.



You need to realize that you are not the only one around here that knows anything.



Unlike you, I did not dispute, argue or other wise take issue with what you posted. I do not disagree with your statement that replacing the cable makes sense, I simply posted a view that happen to differ. If you were replace a receptacle at the house, would you tear the walls down to rewire with whole house, just because it was 25 years old? I will stand behind my post, if the cable is found to be in good shape, no reason a new end cannot be put on. A tinned copper eyelet thats soldered on, with a section gel-filled heatshrink bridged from the terminal to the insulation to seal the gap. Do it every day with no special tools. If the OP cuts some cable back and it still looks suspect, then by all means, replace the whole cable.

Ya'll have a great weekend,

Why would you come on here and ask advice, then cry about getting that advice? This forum is full of people from complete newbies (I was one when I first came here) to people who have had Mastercraft boats since the very beginning. With very little exception, this is a very friendly group. There is no need or desire to have this kind of response here.

CantRepeat
06-20-2014, 05:36 PM
^--- still a newbie!

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 06:09 PM
^--- still a newbie!

Newbies need to have manners too.:rolleyes:

CantRepeat
06-20-2014, 06:44 PM
Newbies need to have manners too.:rolleyes:

I have manners!!! Damn it!:D

mikeg205
06-20-2014, 07:35 PM
Thats your assumption, as i made no reference to any specific terminal type, nor do i know what type is currently on the OP's cable.



You need to realize that you are not the only one around here that knows anything.



Unlike you, I did not dispute, argue or other wise take issue with what you posted. I do not disagree with your statement that replacing the cable makes sense, I simply posted a view that happen to differ. If you were replace a receptacle at the house, would you tear the walls down to rewire with whole house, just because it was 25 years old? I will stand behind my post, if the cable is found to be in good shape, no reason a new end cannot be put on. A tinned copper eyelet thats soldered on, with a section gel-filled heatshrink bridged from the terminal to the insulation to seal the gap. Do it every day with no special tools. If the OP cuts some cable back and it still looks suspect, then by all means, replace the whole cable.

Ya'll have a great weekend,

This is a bit rough MLA... we'll just assume you had a bad day. :rolleyes:

mikeg205
06-20-2014, 07:48 PM
ang - I did the screw on thingy..!! yes I did - I am not worthy...:rolleyes: - but I want to move battery anyway... creeps me out that's back next to fuel cell.... what's a good place to get them? battery cables that is... fall project.. :)

Cloaked
06-20-2014, 08:11 PM
ang - I did the screw on thingy..!! yes I did - I am not worthy...:rolleyes: - but I want to move battery anyway... creeps me out that's back next to fuel cell.... what's a good place to get them? battery cables that is... fall project.. :)
dammit boy.... how many times???

http://www.genuinedealz.com/

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mgs96ps
06-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Ok...I gonna chime in here...I guess I'll never learn. I used the attached on the ends of my main cables...anybody ever use these connections for their mains?

CantRepeat
06-20-2014, 09:52 PM
You're fine with those!

I believe what Jim and others, myself included, are talking about are these type of bolt on terminals.

http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B8801811640/Brass-Battery-Terminal.jpg

mgs96ps
06-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Thanks for reply. I chose this stepup for the quick disconnect and the fact I don't need to mess with the main posts on battery...but then I wired in a shut off switch also.

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 11:34 PM
Ok...I gonna chime in here...I guess I'll never learn. I used the attached on the ends of my main cables...anybody ever use these connections for their mains?
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=113231&stc=1&d=1403313746


Out of curiosity, why not go direct to the posts with the cables? Using the adapters just adds another connection, and more opportunity for corrosion and resistance.

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 11:35 PM
I have manners!!! Damn it!:D

And I have missed them all these years http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif.pagespeed.ce.5xOqKkq0Co.gif

mgs96ps
06-20-2014, 11:42 PM
Funny you should ask. I cut off my bad connections and sodered on new ends and I needed to extra length. But at least I didn't do the screw type like mikeg205 8p

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 11:44 PM
Funny you should ask. I cut off my bad connections and sodered on new ends and I needed to extra length. But at least I didn't do the screw type t like mikeg205 8p

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gifhttp://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gifhttp://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gif

Could you just turn the battery around?

mgs96ps
06-20-2014, 11:51 PM
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gifhttp://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gifhttp://www.chimpout.com/forum/images/smilies/rofllg.gif

Could you just turn the battery around?

He made fun of my exhaust hoses and ive been looking for an opening. Negative lead would have still been too short. I did however pick up length on positve with the battery switch.

thatsmrmastercraft
06-20-2014, 11:58 PM
He made fun of my exhaust hoses and ive been looking for an opening. Negative lead would have still been too short. I did however pick up length on positve with the battery switch.

No worries.

Giving Mike some grief is always fun. His MCOCD is so extreme it takes some real looking to find an opportunity. http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/redx.gif.pagespeed.ce.fOSHoIVwYU.gif

mgs96ps
06-21-2014, 12:02 AM
I know...and he is not even online.:mad: oh well....shouldn't be long.

mikeg205
06-21-2014, 09:42 AM
dammit boy.... how many times???

http://www.genuinedealz.com/

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Doh! - I should have looked in my libary.... lol.. I had...

mikeg205
06-21-2014, 09:45 AM
Funny you should ask. I cut off my bad connections and sodered on new ends and I needed to extra length. But at least I didn't do the screw type like mikeg205 8p

I truly love getting it from y'all :D

I dish it out pretty well too... so I feel it fair that when I MCOCD stumbles I must confess :D :D

So I appreciate the guidance.. ;)