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briggle2
05-05-2014, 11:17 AM
Anyone know where I can find a replacement one of these? Roughly 5' x 15'', 2 entry connects on top, 1 exit connect on the bottom. I seem to have trouble finding one with the 2 connects on the top. Also, need a Jabsco pump but Iím sure I can find one of those.

Another question though, anyone know why it seems to take 15-20 minutes for my 3 bags to fill, sometimes longer? I have the green impellars and I assume if the pumps work, they work. Not like they could be worn down or something. Thanks!

monsterwake
05-05-2014, 11:29 AM
www.wakemakers.com
Make sure your vents are not clogged up with wasp nests. Spray water in them.

briggle2
05-05-2014, 11:48 AM
Thanks man! Just spray in all the black holes on the side of the boat?

monsterwake
05-05-2014, 12:03 PM
Yes. My KGB bag wouldn't hardly fill or empty a couple weeks ago and I noticed something running down the side of my boat. When I started to spray the watter into the hole I could tell when it broke loose.

cwarndahl
05-05-2014, 12:24 PM
i have a 01 x-10 and wake makers got me all set up i now have over 2200 lbs of weight in my boat. and it all fits perfect. thanks to jason over there. and they got me set up with a new prop to handle the weight as well.

JRW160
05-05-2014, 03:56 PM
Those bags are not made anymore. I was quoted $450 for a custom replacement. The fly high tube sac is what most people run instead. It holds about 70lbs less, but is a lot cheaper. The bottom fitting on my factory bag came off, but I was able to repair it using PL construction adhesive. It has held up well for the last 3 years.

Also, you don't need both connections on top. You can get away with just one of them as a vent line. I capped off the rearmost connection on the top.

The reason it takes so long to fill is most likely the factory ballast manifold. In my 2003, all 3 pumps were fed through a single thru hull. There just isn't enough water flow through the manifold. The ballast drain lines also probably have worn out check valves that introduce a lot of air into the system. A couple of years ago, I added two more thru hulls in the bottom of the boat. Now each pump has its own pickup. I also completely eliminated the factory ballast manifold. I can fill all 3 sacs simultaneously. The 750s in the back take between 7 and 8 minutes to fill.

monsterwake
05-05-2014, 06:00 PM
^^^ Great Idea. I may have to do this some day. I also have the Fly High sac.

JRW160
05-05-2014, 06:03 PM
They changed the manifold at some point and made it a little better. I'm not sure when, but I know the 2003 one was really bad.

Tristarboarder
05-05-2014, 07:37 PM
^ is it safe to say all '03 and older were inefficient, or just the '03 specifically?

TOO-TALL
05-05-2014, 08:22 PM
My 03 fills slow also....might be my next winter project is to get rid of the manifold and give each pump a threw hole.

JRW160
05-06-2014, 10:21 AM
^ is it safe to say all '03 and older were inefficient, or just the '03 specifically?
I'm pretty sure 2002 is also bad. That was the first year of the impeller style pumps. I think that design manifold design carried over into 2003 and probably 2004 as well. It was much better by 2007, but I'm not sure when it happened. I know 2007 drained out the bottom, so there was a different manifold. That change may have happened in 2006.

With the dedicated thru hulls and a tsunami helping on the bow triangle, I can have 2800lbs filled in under 10 minutes. With the stock manifold it took somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes.

VP46
05-06-2014, 10:44 AM
is having 2800lbs in a 205v desirable? I put 500lbs up front and 500 on the goofy side plus 300 in locker and while driving the boat was manageable you still had to "drive it"....even then it seemed like a lot of weight.

with 2800lbs I'm assuming you are early morning all by your self (no other boats) and instead of driving that boat you are piloting it!

Cary K.
05-06-2014, 11:05 AM
I run 2500 in mine and it still drives great. I run anytime of day and can keep it dry.

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cwarndahl
05-06-2014, 11:07 AM
in mine i don't like the full load out i have. 400 in ski locker, 400 in bow, 750 each side of the engine. with the 2 750 bags full its allot of driver management. I'm almost thinking of getting 400 lbs bags. i mean i can sink it to over the rub rail. i only trust myself and one other person to drive the boat like that. but with the new prop it takes off and pulls fine.

steve_amestoy
05-06-2014, 11:19 AM
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I've got 400s for sale with 1" fill/drains and 3/4" over flows. Perfect condition . $200 shipped.

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steve_amestoy
05-06-2014, 11:20 AM
in mine i don't like the full load out i have. 400 in ski locker, 400 in bow, 750 each side of the engine. with the 2 750 bags full its allot of driver management. I'm almost thinking of getting 400 lbs bags. i mean i can sink it to over the rub rail. i only trust myself and one other person to drive the boat like that. but with the new prop it takes off and pulls fine.

^^^^^
I've got 400s for sale!

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JRW160
05-06-2014, 01:26 PM
is having 2800lbs in a 205v desirable? I put 500lbs up front and 500 on the goofy side plus 300 in locker and while driving the boat was manageable you still had to "drive it"....even then it seemed like a lot of weight.

with 2800lbs I'm assuming you are early morning all by your self (no other boats) and instead of driving that boat you are piloting it!
It doesn't seem to be much trouble to drive. I've had lots of friends drive it, and I can't ever remember taking water over the nose.

JRW160
05-06-2014, 01:28 PM
in mine i don't like the full load out i have. 400 in ski locker, 400 in bow, 750 each side of the engine. with the 2 750 bags full its allot of driver management. I'm almost thinking of getting 400 lbs bags. i mean i can sink it to over the rub rail. i only trust myself and one other person to drive the boat like that. but with the new prop it takes off and pulls fine.
I don't know about your hull, but for a 205v you would need a lot more weight in the bow to offset the 750s. Either that or only run the 750s half full.