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Pickwick
04-23-2014, 11:45 AM
Is this product OK?

jjct1
04-23-2014, 12:34 PM
I use this product on my swim platform. Depending how bad the oxidation is, you might need to do a light sanding before applying. Or you may need to brighten/oil a couple times.

CantRepeat
04-23-2014, 01:01 PM
I'd use that kit but would pass on the oil. Get some linseed oil and mineral spirits 80/20 mix.

FoggyNogginz
04-23-2014, 01:09 PM
I'd use that kit but would pass on the oil. Get some linseed oil and mineral spirits 80/20 mix.

+1 for a mix of 75% linseed oil and 25% mineral spirits. This is a much better, longer lasting option. Personally, I find most Starbrite products to be sub-optimal anyway.

I'd skip the entire kit, and I'd pressure wash the teak. Lightly sand it if needed, then apply two coats linseed/mineral spirits with a brush.

Here's a photo of what pressure washing alone can do. I lightly sanded this for 10 mins, washed again, and then applied linseed oil. Wait 24 hours for drying, and reapply. Done.

Good luck!

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/picture.php?albumid=1029&pictureid=6213

etduc
04-23-2014, 01:22 PM
It's a do all kit..so if you don't need the cleaner. Make your own oil, as suggested. If you have
mold and/or mildew, Simple Green works, as a cleaner. The lightener, is basically a bleach. (Not really sure, what the chemical is.) A light sanding, makes the oil last much longer. I oil mine, twice a year. Clean it, at the end of the season.

On older platforms, be careful on power washing, as the swim platform can de-laminate.:(

AZDave
04-23-2014, 02:39 PM
I used this product 2 years ago, following directions on the package. My platform never looked better, and I have enough product left over for 2 more applications. The sanding prep is the key.

CantRepeat
04-23-2014, 03:03 PM
I don't have a before pic but this is after using the cleaner, then brightener, then some quick 220 and finished with one coat of 80/20.

http://mikesell.net/images/boat/teakn.jpg

ncsucarjock88
04-23-2014, 09:40 PM
I had a platform that was awful - it had been varnished. stripped the varnish, still looked awful. Gave it a bath in a pretty strong concentration of TSP and hot water, (in the shower, with a long brush, wearing gloves) let that soak awhile - about thirty minutes, reapplying every 5 or so. Then I let it dry a few days. Gave it a light sanding, and then treated it with three coats of Boiled linseed oil/mineral spirits (75/25) over about a week.

Went from this
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/sb765t/Mastercraft/Spring%20Freshening%202013/IMG_2229.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/sb765t/media/Mastercraft/Spring%20Freshening%202013/IMG_2229.jpg.html)

To this:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/sb765t/Mastercraft/Spring%20Freshening%202013/IMG_2281.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/sb765t/media/Mastercraft/Spring%20Freshening%202013/IMG_2281.jpg.html)

Total cost... umm, maybe 5 bucks?? And I already had everything in the shop. It takes very little oil to do it... If you've got a well equipped shop... you've probably got everything on hand...and don't have to spend a dime...just a few hours.

SJ.
04-25-2014, 03:33 PM
I do about 10 minutes of sanding with my orbital and some 60-80 grit. Any smoother than that can make for a slippery deck. Then, two coats of 75/25 linseed oil/mineral spirits, total cost is 4-5 bucks and the platform looks brand new. Lasted all season last year moored in the open sun of CO and water exposure - for 5 solid months. Just finished a quick sanding last night and about to apply coat #1. I waited a week between coats last time, not sure you have to wait that long. 2-3 days might be about right. I would never spend the money for one of those kits now that I've seen how easy, effective and cheap this system is.

east tx skier
04-25-2014, 03:34 PM
Don't use bleach on a teak platform. It wreaks havoc on the wood. It literally won't feel the same (almost spongy).

atihanyi
04-25-2014, 10:16 PM
I have used that kit with very good results

Pickwick
04-25-2014, 11:08 PM
Thanks all. Anyone mess up with a pressure washer?

FoggyNogginz
04-26-2014, 12:40 AM
Thanks all. Anyone mess up with a pressure washer?

Depends on how long you do it and how much pressure you apply. I mean, it does leave one hand free for a beer... :woohoo:

SJ.
04-26-2014, 11:50 PM
Thanks all. Anyone mess up with a pressure washer?

I pressure washed mine last fall before putting it into storage. Looked great/bare when I got it out this spring and was easy to go from there.

tbmlxstar
05-28-2014, 11:28 AM
I used the kit in the past and it worked well but this year for some reason I can't seem to get a consistent finish on the entire deck. I sanded and then applied step 1, 2 & 3. Should I start from scratch and skip the cleaner and use linseed oil only? This picture is after all the steps.

etduc
05-28-2014, 12:46 PM
Thanks all. Anyone mess up with a pressure washer?
Mmm...if you must know. Me! :o

Older style platforms, early '90s Prostar. Those platforms, have a greater curve to them,so a small piece, at the end of the board de-lamenated. Easy fix.
Probably, not an issue with the current design.

As Eastie said, don't use bleach to lighten the color. Any Home Depot type place, will have cleaning/repair supplies for wood floors. At any rate, you're not lightening the natural color of the wood. You are removing, mold, mildew, old oil/stain product, spilled beer, etc. :rolleyes:

Tony Webb
05-29-2014, 07:29 AM
I have tied several methods but I have to admit I like the Starbrite teak sealer, it's not slippery, looks great and outlast all other products I have tried

CantRepeat
05-29-2014, 10:19 AM
I've got the big jug of starbrite teak sealer that is 3/4 full that I don't use since I found the linseed/spirit mix.

The cleaner brightener combo is golden.

curver900
05-29-2014, 11:39 AM
I used the kit in the past and it worked well but this year for some reason I can't seem to get a consistent finish on the entire deck. I sanded and then applied step 1, 2 & 3. Should I start from scratch and skip the cleaner and use linseed oil only? This picture is after all the steps.

this needs to be sanded, start with 80 grit and get all that dark/black stuff off... then go up to 220... not sure there is any other cure.....

Mine looked like yours when I started, here is what it looks like now...

this is the linseed oil mixture... no brighteners either ...

tbmlxstar
05-29-2014, 12:32 PM
Looks great. I'll give it a try and see what happens.

PineLakeRumble
05-29-2014, 04:16 PM
After the initial restoration last year (60-220 grit, finishing with 000 steel wool and three coats of StarBrite last spring). I managed to get by with one more coat of StarBrite on the lift in early August. This year just the #000 and one more coat of StarBrite. StarBrite is easy to get in my neck of the woods and seems to be doing just fine.

ProTour X9
05-29-2014, 05:29 PM
This is what I do. :toast:

half a can
05-29-2014, 07:51 PM
My platform has a varnish / polyurethane finish on it from the previous owner. It looked good for the first year but is starting to come off now. Is there a good stripper recommended to remove the existing finish? Or just sandpaper and elbow grease?

CantRepeat
05-29-2014, 09:13 PM
This is what I do. :toast:


Trust me, that's fine if you want to make a swim platform for shows but it's not very practical on the water. You'll realize this in a bad way, like when someone slips and bust their *** because its way to slick to stand on.

ProTour X9
05-30-2014, 11:23 AM
Trust me, that's fine if you want to make a swim platform for shows but it's not very practical on the water. You'll realize this in a bad way, like when someone slips and bust their *** because its way to slick to stand on.

In over 780 hours over 7 years, not one slip. The key is thin layers and making sure each layer dries completely; it will feel like the wood that it is. :twocents:

112082

Alistair
05-31-2014, 06:28 AM
Does Mineral Spirits go by any other name ? I can't find it in the UK

Alternatively, is it easy to find in the US ? I'm in NYC in a couple of weeks

Thanks

CantRepeat
05-31-2014, 08:13 AM
In over 780 hours over 7 years, not one slip. The key is thin layers and making sure each layer dries completely; it will feel like the wood that it is. :twocents:

112082

I know all about it. I used it for a couple of years and it was extremely slick. This photo is not shinny because the oil is wet.

http://www.mikesell.net/images/boat/teak2010.jpg

CantRepeat
05-31-2014, 08:25 AM
Looks great for shows, it does last a long time, but when it's wet it's just a PITA.

http://www.mikesell.net/images/boat/teak.jpg

CantRepeat
05-31-2014, 08:27 AM
Does Mineral Spirits go by any other name ? I can't find it in the UK

Alternatively, is it easy to find in the US ? I'm in NYC in a couple of weeks

Thanks

White spirit (UK)[note 1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit#cite_note-1) or mineral spirits (US),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit#cite_note-2)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit#cite_note-3)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit#cite_note-4)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

Alistair
05-31-2014, 10:09 AM
Thank you :)

JohnE
05-31-2014, 10:18 AM
This is what I do. :toast:

Trust me, that's fine if you want to make a swim platform for shows but it's not very practical on the water. You'll realize this in a bad way, like when someone slips and bust their *** because its way to slick to stand on.

In over 780 hours over 7 years, not one slip. The key is thin layers and making sure each layer dries completely; it will feel like the wood that it is. :twocents:

112082

Doug, I used that method myself for years. And I absolutely let each coat dry and applied as thin as possible. One year at CSM, Lee from MCOC went down hard crossing from platform to platform on my boat. I realize that walking across 20 platforms as if you are walking down the sidewalk is not your typical use of the platform, and as such the slickness is more noticeable. I also spent time on Harold's platform....it was slick. But with the smaller slats with spaces, there is a lot more friction. Sort of like small tiles in a shower floor vs. having 12 x 12's. In fact the difference between the solid platforms and slotted has me contemplating using Harold's method on my '97 platform

ProTour X9
05-31-2014, 10:47 AM
To each their own I suppose. My platform doesn't shine, nor can you see reflections in it. My neighbor caked on polyurethane on his platform (drove me crazy), yet as long as I waited for it, no one ever slipped to my knowledge. We could just be more conscientious here in the Midwest, donchano! Regardless, I will make sure we are more careful; I don't want anybody to get hurt. :)

captain planet
06-09-2014, 03:08 PM
I've got the big jug of starbrite teak sealer that is 3/4 full that I don't use since I found the linseed/spirit mix.

The cleaner brightener combo is golden.

...so Deks Olje is no longer making the teak oil I used to covet....I used the last of it last night. So I'm considering the linseed oil/mineral spirits route. Any difference in linseed oil or a particular brand that is better than others.

CantRepeat
06-10-2014, 12:48 PM
...so Deks Olje is no longer making the teak oil I used to covet....I used the last of it last night. So I'm considering the linseed oil/mineral spirits route. Any difference in linseed oil or a particular brand that is better than others.

CP, I bought a gallon of the boiled linseed oil from Home Depot. It's in a blue gallon can. I'm pretty sure it's made by Kleen-strip.

Here it is.

http://www.rockler.com/boiled-linseed-oil?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_content=pla&utm_campaign=PL&sid=V9146&gclid=CjgKEAjw2dqcBRC2q-LXjpfxjnQSJAAeYF5Ly_933WgKAGhdJmIQoS0Y4uz6QnVLtnUI u5kNAT_tqfD_BwE

92 190 PS
06-10-2014, 12:59 PM
I used sunnyside linseed oil and mineral spirits from Menards on my 197 last week. First trip to the river this weekend and so far I am very impressed.

http://www.menards.com/main/p-2246898-c-8161.htm

casx2
06-10-2014, 01:59 PM
...so Deks Olje is no longer making the teak oil I used to covet....I used the last of it last night. So I'm considering the linseed oil/mineral spirits route. Any difference in linseed oil or a particular brand that is better than others.

CP, I have the mixture of linseed oil and mineral spirits already made up and have plenty of it. Just stop by and grab some.

CantRepeat
06-10-2014, 02:31 PM
CP, I have the mixture of linseed oil and mineral spirits already made up and have plenty of it. Just stop by and grab some.

Bring beers!! :D

tbmlxstar
06-29-2014, 02:47 PM
I finally finished after taking most of the advice I read here. I thoroughly washed with Murphy's oil soap and then sanded it down to bare wood. Where I took a different path was instead of linseed oil, I used Australian wood oil, which my wife has used successfully for years on our teak outdoor furniture and it always looks great. The Australian wood oil is part linseed oil but I am not sure what percent. I will get the boat back from the shop this week and hopefully get out by the 4th. Here are some pictures. Total time was about 8 hours of work and time between coats of wood oil.

pnrscott
06-30-2014, 11:23 AM
My experience through the years is to not let the decks fall into too much disrepair. Obviously, the more neglected the deck is, the more time and effort to bring it back. Been there, done that.

I used to spend a lot of time on that piece of wood and realized I was treating it like fine furniture. Looked great on the trailer, then we went skiing and I sorta resented the little scrapes and bumps. I've mellowed now, get it clean, make it pretty, use it, do a couple of quick touchups mid season, use time saved for other projects.
(I do not advise power washing, way too aggressive for the wood)

It may not make for a perfect looking deck, but, again, its not fine furniture. (my $.02)

pnrscott
06-30-2014, 11:57 AM
... and the decks shown in this thread look really good! results of great effort

tbmlxstar
06-30-2014, 03:14 PM
Totally agree with keeping it in good condition throughout the year and not worrying about nicks that come from regular use. The first picture was after one season and sitting for the winter. I usually apply finish each season but I think from now on I will touch it up mid-season and after the last use.

prostar760
08-25-2014, 06:49 PM
Killer thread! Thank you guys for all the info. I plan on doing my swim step this weekend.

Wingnut
08-28-2014, 09:36 AM
Oil and mineral spirits for me after paying for the Star Bright the first go round. 75/25 or 80/20- Works great!!!