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Tristarboarder
02-16-2014, 01:45 AM
Let's just say that I am primarily focused on wakeboarding, but now have the opportunity with my newest boat to try out wake surfing (looks fun, but jury is still out). Of course I have read several threads on this subject, but most were older, pre-2010ish relevant threads. So those of you who are active in surfing, what rope/handle combos are you using? I realize that there are small handles like 6" to prevent injury, handle-less ropes with just knots, and various homemade jobs...
Might as well dump more $$ into the endless abyss that owning a MC imposes :D

MI_Corey
02-16-2014, 07:12 AM
We went with the accurate rope with the small handle. I actually prefer the accurate or similar knot style ropes but my wife isn't able to get up using them but has no problem with the small handle. It ended up being a good thing because I think most of our friends wifes would have the same problem. We don't surf much either, especially since my boats not very good for it, but it is fun when you are wore out or sore from the day before.

bturner2
02-16-2014, 07:59 AM
I'm using a Ronix surf handle with the pads at the knots. The ropes with the pads are worth paying the extra money for IMO.

We were using the big knotted rope type deal but if you had sun tan lotion on your hands it would get on the rope and make it difficult to hold on to. It also seem much harder for those without a strong grip to use.

bcd
02-16-2014, 08:19 AM
I took an old ski rope, cut it into 4 pieces, leaving one longer for the main tie line to the tower. I then braided them together and tied a big knot on the end. It's been working great for 6 years now.

uplander
02-16-2014, 09:14 AM
Same rope Ronix surf handle with pads and knots, I tried using a ski handle and that was a mistake, go spend $30 and you will be happy :)

scott023
02-16-2014, 09:53 AM
Ronix handle with pads at the knots. I haven't found anything that comes close.

MattsCraft
02-16-2014, 11:25 AM
Just make sure you use/get a true Wake Surf Rope. Don't use a ski or the thin wake board lines and handles = very dangerous even at surf speeds, rope and handle can/will cause injury!!!

The Ronix are nice, but a bit over priced. The Liquid Force full surf rope handle is what we use and prefer over the T-Handle style. Also, we don't use the extension except for nubies, as this makes the rope really long.

BrooksfamX2
02-16-2014, 11:45 AM
Just make sure you use/get a true Wake Surf Rope. Don't use a ski or the thin wake board lines and handles = very dangerous even at surf speeds, rope and handle can/will cause injury!!!

The Ronix are nice, but a bit over priced. The Liquid Force full surf rope handle is what we use and prefer over the T-Handle style. Also, we don't use the extension except for nubies, as this makes the rope really long.

Hmmmm, we used an old shortened ski rope/handle for a long time with no issues, not sure what the issue would be. I have used the braided knotless also but don't like it and ladies don't usually have the hand strength to use it. We use a CWB short handle now because it came with one of the boards. It works great for everyone.

JohnE
02-16-2014, 12:57 PM
I used an old slalom handle for a while. I was just afraid of the kids getting their head stuck in it somehow and bought a surf rope. I think the danger is when one tries to pull themself into the sweet spot and risks the rope wrapping a head/ hand/ arm/ finger/ etc

scott023
02-16-2014, 01:03 PM
Just make sure you use/get a true Wake Surf Rope. Don't use a ski or the thin wake board lines and handles = very dangerous even at surf speeds, rope and handle can/will cause injury!!!

The Ronix are nice, but a bit over priced. The Liquid Force full surf rope handle is what we use and prefer over the T-Handle style. Also, we don't use the extension except for nubies, as this makes the rope really long.

Really? Seems to me there was a nine dollar price difference between the Ronix and LF ropes. Not a big difference, IMO.

scott023
02-16-2014, 01:05 PM
:DI used an old slalom handle for a while. I was just afraid of the kids getting their head stuck in it somehow and bought a surf rope. I think the danger is when one tries to pull themself into the sweet spot and risks the rope wrapping a head/ hand/ arm/ finger/ etc
I think you're right on there John. That's what my worry would be for everyone, not just the kids.

MattsCraft
02-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Really? Seems to me there was a nine dollar price difference between the Ronix and LF ropes. Not a big difference, IMO.

I stand corrected after a little more search, Ronix is cheaper:D

Looks like a nice set up - I have the LF in blue, not sure on the price, kids got me a new one for Christmas.

http://www.buywake.com/wakesurf-ropes-and-handles/wakesurf-ropes-and-handles.htm

I still see the ski handle/rope combo as dangerous, due to the size of the handle, rope thickness etc, plus it is hard for people that are learning to grab move into the sweat spot etc. Used one on my buddies boat once, handle was spinning and dangling like a mad man as you moved in/up the rope, just could see that darn rope wrapped around someones leg or even worse neck on a bad fall.

Use whatever you are comfortable with, but on My Boat, if we don't have a surf specific rope, you won't be surfing unless you can surf sans rope:D Of course, we have 3, lol, a T handle, less the T (prop got it), a red LF (matched the old boat) and now a new LF in blue. (matches the new boat).

Tristarboarder
02-16-2014, 04:08 PM
Thanks everyone for the input and feedback. I am definitely going with a surf rope with a handle primarily because it seems easier to use and learn with. I am looking hard at the new Ronix rope/handle combo with the pads over the knots and the bungee. Looks pretty nice and the price isn't too bad. Excited to learn a new water sport!

BrooksfamX2
02-16-2014, 09:22 PM
:D
I think you're right on there John. That's what my worry would be for everyone, not just the kids.

I guess I don't see it any more risky than wakebording, wakeskating or skiing............

scott023
02-16-2014, 09:29 PM
I guess I don't see it any more risky than wakebording, wakeskating or skiing............

I see a lot of people that wrap the rope around their wrists. Or people that drop the handle and only hold the rope. If the wakeboard handle is as big ad mine, that's a lot bigger obstruction in the water that's a potential injury risk when a person falls. Catch your arm of leg in that handle is a lot more likely than the smaller surf handle. To each their own, not criticizing anyones choices, just saying why we choose to use a surf rope.

jafo9
02-16-2014, 10:45 PM
I specifically found a surf rope that had no handle. It has only knots and a foam grip before each knot. We teach lots of kids and newbie's to surf and I wanted a surf specific rope and no handle. This was done purely for safety reasons so no body part would get caught up in a handle. Even with the rope with knots only, folks will loop the rope around their wrist, arm, etc., because they think it is the right thing to do. They always seem surprised when we are telling them not to loop the rope but to let it drag in the water.

FWIW, not one female, male, or child has failed to get up on the surf board because there was no handle to hang on to. The rope with knots works fine as long as the rider lets the boat do the work.

Traxx822
02-16-2014, 10:51 PM
http://agendasurf.com/dir/products/wakesurf/rope-handle-combo.html

The only surf rope you will ever want to buy. This is the best by far. Not my opinion, it's the truth.

Aric'sX15
02-16-2014, 11:07 PM
X2 on the link traxx posted

Tristarboarder
02-16-2014, 11:10 PM
OK, I'm game....so why is it the best, hands down, base on fact ^ ? Looks similar to the others, but I posted this thread to get some info.....price is reasonable also

Traxx822
02-16-2014, 11:20 PM
#1 Very soft rope. Twisted tripple braid makes for perfect finger alignment and thickness. Super soft single hand grip is also triangular for that monster grip for the guys who like the quick turn,grab and go surfing. I can personally attest to surfing with this rope, i have fallen on it, had it wrap around my leg/arm etc. It comes off you easy. Worst I ever had was a little rope burn most of the time nothing happens if you fall on it. It is very long, preset to shorten every 5 feet but it teaches people to get back farther on the wave. Number one problem in new surfers ... imho, is they surf too close to the boat in most cases and with the shorter ropes they don't get the full feeling of riding back on the wave and being comfortable in the wave. Everyone can ride the pocket, its what happens when you get farther back and start to fall out. The longer rope helps you learn but be able to save yourself. You can also accordion it in your hands and choke up if needed.

scott023
02-16-2014, 11:46 PM
http://agendasurf.com/dir/products/wakesurf/rope-handle-combo.html

The only surf rope you will ever want to buy. This is the best by far. Not my opinion, it's the truth.

I've got that handle. I like the Ronix better. Just my preference.

Tristarboarder
02-17-2014, 12:21 AM
Thanks Traxx and Scott. I will ponder the two, hell I might just buy both :D.
I bought a 2012 H-lite Broadcast, mint condition, for $200 off of Craig... I know this thing is huge, and that I will probably outgrow it quickly, but it will be a great board for my wife and friends to learn on....I am sure I will out grow it skill-wise so it will become the "house" wake surf board. Remember, I have never tried wake surfing, so I couldn't tell the difference between either rope, but w.t.h.
Thanks for the diff opinions, that's what I was after

BrooksfamX2
02-17-2014, 09:50 AM
I see a lot of people that wrap the rope around their wrists. Or people that drop the handle and only hold the rope.........

Not a good practice........... :o

scott023
02-17-2014, 10:44 AM
Not a good practice........... :o

You're not kidding. I correct everyone that tries it in my boat, but tough to do it for people on other boats.8p

bturner2
02-17-2014, 11:24 AM
We stress not to loop the rope as you're finding the sweet spot. We'll even pull someone into the sweet spot from the boat when they're first learning. Very dangerous indeed.

Traxx822
02-17-2014, 01:03 PM
You can accordion the rope handle and extra slack in back hand, rope in front hand. If you fall back just let go with front hand and slack in back and usr handle. If falling on rope, try to drop rope not throw. By the time you hit water rope should be clear.

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Tristarboarder
02-17-2014, 03:26 PM
I am going with the Agenda Surf rope.....thanks for the link Traxx....check it out, there is a video link with a guy describing the handle/rope sporting sporting sweet porn-stash. Pretty funny...looks like a solid product though....I'll give it a whirl

mzimme
02-17-2014, 04:14 PM
I have this one... works well, easy on the hands, adjustable in length, and not super expensive.

http://www.amazon.com/Obrien-Knotted-Wakesurf-Rope-White/dp/B001W4JI3S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392671619&sr=8-2&keywords=wakesurf+rope

uplander
02-17-2014, 11:00 PM
Throw it over the wave

I pull the kids into the sweet spot

I think the tricky part is getting them up on the board

It is a blast getting them up and watching them surf for the first time :)

sweberr6
03-28-2014, 11:25 AM
This is a nice rope with a small handle and a knotted rope for a good price by Tantrum Tow Rope:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wakesurf-Handle-and-Rope-by-Tantrum-Tow-Ropes-Wake-Surf-/121301243656?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3e1e1708