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Bohmer410
02-12-2014, 09:48 PM
My dad purchased this back in in 93' from the original owner. It has spend it's whole life in a garage, except for 2 years it was only under a carport. It's been babied so much it the original tarp. How many 24 year old boats still have the original tarp?

I have purchased an X30 and don't need two boats so this one has to go. It's going up for sale soon. How much is this worth?

Details: (Might be too much, but I figured more the better)

1990 Prostar 190
351 Powerslot
1,134 hours, Runs perfectly
Interior is in great shape has no rips. All original, except for the back seat bottom and observers seat bottom has been replaced.
Comes with Barefoot Boom
Speakers are less than a year old
Battery is 2 years old, always plugged into a battery tender.
Never loaded with ballast or extended pylon

Trailer: Brakes work great, Tires are 2 years old, LED lights, Prop guard and also added running lights on guide poles which turn green when the trailer is deep enough in the water. My wife finds them very helpful.

Also, it has "Factory winterized by Mastercraft" and a "Quaility Assurance" stickers on front of the bow. Do anyone know what those were for? We have always wondered about them. I've never see any others boats have them.

Sorry for pictures are inside it's been below freezing here for weeks.

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orbeamlb
02-12-2014, 10:21 PM
Very nice. It's definitely been well cared for.

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
02-12-2014, 10:47 PM
http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1990/Mastercraft-Boat-Co/190/10115933/values
if its really clean you might get 15% more.

Cloaked
02-12-2014, 11:02 PM
My dad purchased this back in in 93' from the original owner. It has spend it's whole life in a garage, except for 2 years it was only under a carport. It's been babied so much it the original tarp. How many 24 year old boats still have the original tarp? Doesn't matter.

I have purchased an X30 and don't need two boats so this one has to go. It's going up for sale soon. How much is this worth? $8,500 - $9,000

Details: (Might be too much, but I figured more the better)

1990 Prostar 190
351 Powerslot Are you sure of that? I ask because I do not see the Powerslot placarding. Transmission should be a 1.52:1 gear, stamped on a tag that is attached to the transmission.
1,134 hours, Runs perfectly Hours are not an issue for my opinion but after three digits, it's a less attractive array of digits. Still OK by me. Perfect is relative.
Interior is in great shape has no rips. All original, except for the back seat bottom and observers seat bottom has been replaced. Not all original, so that goes out the door although not necessarily detrimental to the machine.
Comes with Barefoot Boom Good add-on as long as it is a BFI boom. Good booms aren't cheap and cheap booms are not good.
Speakers are less than a year old Moot point of relativity
Battery is 2 years old, always plugged into a battery tender. A plus
Never loaded with ballast or extended pylon Best thing you could have told about the boat. When I see a tower or a pole on a boat that was not made for it (by design), it's a no-go for me from that point.

Trailer: Brakes work great, Tires are 2 years old, LED lights, Prop guard and also added running lights on guide poles which turn green when the trailer is deep enough in the water. My wife finds them very helpful. Nice details for aesthetic purposes

Also, it has "Factory winterized by Mastercraft" and a "Quaility Assurance" stickers on front of the bow. Do anyone know what those were for? Manufacturing deliverables. MC had little QA in 1990 other than a lick and a sticker. They just got their recognized Quality Management commitment registration with ISO 9001 this year and that is no guarantee (to come) without quality control and commitment to assurance. We have always wondered about them. I've never see any others boats have them.

Sorry for pictures are inside it's been below freezing here for weeks. Works for me

Nice looking machine. Comments of my opinion above. Best with the sale. I'd start at $9K and any buyer that knows boats can see the value. After $9K, one will begin to look for the next era of hull (4th generation 91-94). If someone offers you $8, think hard on it before refusing the sale.

$0.02

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Bohmer410
02-12-2014, 11:36 PM
Thank you for all the information. It is very helpful.

It is a powerslot and the boom is a Barefoot International, see pics below.

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Cloaked
02-12-2014, 11:39 PM
Thank you for all the information. It is very helpful.

It is a powerslot and the boom is a Barefoot International, see pics below.

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Winner winner chicken dinner.. :D Good deal....

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mikeg205
02-13-2014, 01:04 AM
7-8K is where I would price it.

Nice boat - next gen hulls are selling in the 10-15K range with less hours. Beautiful boat - best part of it - not goofy electronics..

she will sell quick when it warms up.

mikeg205
02-13-2014, 01:23 AM
now all it needs to sell is one of these ;)

Tristarboarder
02-13-2014, 01:43 AM
Dumb question, but is a "Super Slot" different than a "Power Slot". ? Never have seen a super slot decal/badge.....intriguing. Educate me Sir

gweaver
02-13-2014, 02:41 AM
I recall reading somewhere else on the list that the PowerSlot was the 1.51-351 combo, the SuperSlot was the 1.51-454/460 combo. Not sure exactly which engine was in the SS combo, but I think it's a big block of some sort.
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Theclarks1111
02-13-2014, 09:41 AM
Any better exterior pictures? I see some decals removed....

TSchimizzi
02-13-2014, 10:21 AM
This past summer I paid $8k for the same year with 350 hours and no powerslot, perfect interior but no stereo or boom. I would think yours would sell for around the same figure with the upgrades compensating for the hours.

BrianM
02-13-2014, 10:31 AM
Nice looking machine. Comments of my opinion above. Best with the sale. I'd start at $9K and any buyer that knows boats can see the value. After $9K, one will begin to look for the next era of hull (4th generation 91-94). If someone offers you $8, think hard on it before refusing the sale.

$0.02

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shepherd
02-13-2014, 10:33 AM
Trailer: Brakes work great, Tires are 2 years old, LED lights, Prop guard and also added running lights on guide poles which turn green when the trailer is deep enough in the water. My wife finds them very helpful.

Also, it has "Factory winterized by Mastercraft" and a "Quaility Assurance" stickers on front of the bow. Do anyone know what those were for? We have always wondered about them. I've never see any others boats have them.


I bet my wife would like the guide pole lights as well. How does that work?
I used to have a '90 that also had the quality assurance sticker on the bow, but not the "winterized" one. It had the powerslot as well, without any "powerslot" badges on the boat (just the label plate on the transmission like yours).

I agree with the others: $8K - $9K asking price. Those are great ski boats. GLWS.

shepherd
02-13-2014, 10:37 AM
From the late great Harold:

The stickers were applied after the boat was water tested and winterized and after Quality Control did their inspection authorizing it for shipment. Washing, waxing, the water and the sun will wear away the Sharpie writing on the stickers. Clear vinyl decal material over the sticker will protect it and has protected mine for 18 years. It was normal for the dealer to remove them from the boat prior to delivery when the boat was prepped and include them with your paperwork when the boat was sold. I asked my dealer not to remove them for obvious reasons.

Bohmer410
02-13-2014, 12:38 PM
I bet my wife would like the guide pole lights as well. How does that work?
I used to have a '90 that also had the quality assurance sticker on the bow, but not the "winterized" one. It had the powerslot as well, without any "powerslot" badges on the boat (just the label plate on the transmission like yours).

I agree with the others: $8K - $9K asking price. Those are great ski boats. GLWS.

It has a senor that is mounted on the guide pole. When the senor gets wet it lights up green. It was pretty simple to install. The only problem was I had to sleeve the pole with larger PVC in order for the light to fit correctly.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001J14ZSW/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1

MikeyOrange88
02-13-2014, 01:03 PM
The NADA figure seems to be very low to me. That link doesn't seem to take into consideration the number of engine hours whereas auto mileage is a major determinate of value. Also didn't see any consideration for a powerslot transmission, so it seems to be pretty general. I guess we all think our crafts are worth more than maybe they really are in reality.
Hold out for $8500 or spring, whichever comes first.:)

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
02-13-2014, 03:08 PM
The NADA figure seems to be very low to me. That link doesn't seem to take into consideration the number of engine hours whereas auto mileage is a major determinate of value. Also didn't see any consideration for a powerslot transmission, so it seems to be pretty general. I guess we all think our crafts are worth more than maybe they really are in reality.
Hold out for $8500 or spring, whichever comes first.:)

Average condition $7860 with his options, like I said add 15% for "other reasons" and it's back up to $9039.
Mostly NADA is about 15-25% off what people/ dealers ask, NADA uses real reported sales data to come up with their figures.

Bohmer410
02-13-2014, 03:17 PM
I would agree that NADA is a good starting point, but it doesn't factor in the condition of the boat very well especially in the older boats.

I don't see this 2002 X30 selling for 24k (NADA low retail price)

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?nav=item.view&id=131113769495

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
02-13-2014, 03:31 PM
Similar years, $8500-12,000

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=35138

Been trying to sell for over a year, similar to yours, have to ask why it hasn't sold for 8900.
http://www.seattlewatersports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=60_64&products_id=957

drschemel
02-13-2014, 03:48 PM
http://www.seattlewatersports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=60_64&products_id=957[/url]

faded trailer = boat sat outside a lot, either on a lift or on the trailer. Doesn't seem like it is up to the level of the OP's boat!

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
02-13-2014, 03:53 PM
faded trailer = boat sat outside a lot, either on a lift or on the trailer. Doesn't seem like it is up to the level of the OP's boat!

Just trying to make a point if he's asks to high it won't sell..., by all means I want him to get top dollar that would mean I could get more for my classic as well...

Theclarks1111
02-13-2014, 04:41 PM
Similar years, $8500-12,000

http://www.onlyinboards.com/Details.aspx?ID=35138

Been trying to sell for over a year, similar to yours, have to ask why it hasn't sold for 8900.
http://www.seattlewatersports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=60_64&products_id=957

A boat is only going to sell for what someone is willing to pay at that time, regardless of what any similar boats have sold for.

atihanyi
02-14-2014, 10:45 PM
I would be interested in buying your boom , pm me if that's a possibility

ARondeau
02-25-2014, 04:00 PM
PM sent.

Bohmer410
02-26-2014, 11:26 AM
Update: I have a sale pending test drive in a couple weeks, when its above freezing, for $7,500 without the boom. I might have been able to get more out of it. After seeing his little kids all excited about it reminded me of how excited I was when we looked at this boat 21 years ago. I couldn't say no.

Thank you to everyone that helped fiqure out the price of this.

I'll take some better pictures of the boom and list it on here in a couple of days.

JohnE
02-26-2014, 12:47 PM
A boat is only going to sell for what someone is willing to pay at that time, regardless of what any similar boats have sold for.

Yes but most buyers take into consideration what others have sold for when deciding what they are willing to pay.

Update: I have a sale pending test drive in a couple weeks, when its above freezing, for $7,500 without the boom. I might have been able to get more out of it. After seeing his little kids all excited about it reminded me of how excited I was when we looked at this boat 21 years ago. I couldn't say no.

Thank you to everyone that helped fiqure out the price of this.

I'll take some better pictures of the boom and list it on here in a couple of days.

Congratulations to both you and the buyer!

Roman
02-26-2014, 01:14 PM
Honestly I think thats a pretty good price. Everyone thinks their stuff is worth more. I fall victim to this all the time.

At the end of the day

1. You have a well cared for boat that sold close to Nada guide
2. Its the winter
3. Your selling a 24 year old piece of machinery with what most consider pretty high hours.

I have a 24 year old miata, that I have over 12g's worth of upgrades to it with reciepts to prove, not including labor. Engine is "tuned" by an engine calibration engineer (myself) and runs like a top with 220rwhp. It has lots of reliability upgrades done and can do 20 minute track sessions trouble free (which im willing to take serous buyers with cash to prove). People on forums and fellow racers tell me its worth 8k all day. My bottom line is 6, and I havnt sold it yet. Just a bunch of tire kickers and people wanting to go out for a rip. Ill just keep going through tires and gas untill the right person comes along I guess.

Its frustrating, but thats how it goes! Value of anything is only what someone is willing to pay. You did pretty good at 7.5k, and I think most would agree.