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Ryan
12-04-2013, 05:42 PM
I'm quite used to pulling a lightweight & low profile PS190. I was surprised to need to fill up once on my way from Norris to Cincy this weekend with a X1. I averaged just a hair over 10mpg, pulling with a Nissan Armada with a cargo box on top(some moderate hills and towing around 70mph). This ain't no hybrid and I don't expect it to get 30 mpg, but just want a gut check. Is 10mpg is normal?

It may impact my shopping choices when we look for a new tow vehicle this summer.

Footin
12-04-2013, 06:02 PM
My Trailblazer only gets 13 towing my 205.

madcityskier
12-04-2013, 06:03 PM
Taller and heavier boats will affect you gas mileage exponentially in my experience. I can get about 22 towing the S&S at 65 with 3 and minimal equipment. Load it up with stuff, 5 people, full cooler, toys, full gas vs 1/4 tank...
Pretty soon I'm looking at 16.

Footin
12-04-2013, 06:04 PM
Ryan, tell Sue you need to buy a place at Norris so you leave the boat there! Just think of the gas savings.

cbryan70
12-04-2013, 06:10 PM
My Trailblazer only gets 13 towing my 205.

Same here maybe 14 heck thing only gets 15 with my wife driving it everyday

ttu
12-04-2013, 06:13 PM
about 17 towing my 07 x2 with my touareg tdi 70 mph.

Kweisner
12-04-2013, 06:31 PM
12 to 13 MPG towing a 197 @ 70 MPH, fully loaded with fuel, family of five, gear, etc. Vehicle is a Benz GL450--7 seat SUV with a 4.6 liter powerplant. Non-towing mileage isn't much better--maybe 17 to 19.

93Prostar190
12-04-2013, 06:32 PM
Ahh ... from Norris to Cinci .... well I do that in the Summer and keep going to C'Bus up I-71 .... the Ford Expedition towing the 214 and our vacation goodies is in the 13-14 mpg with the 5.4 V8 .... 10 does not seem out of line ..... it is a hilly a tow .... I tend to NOT use OD so the truck tranny does not hunt .... in the flats I do allow OD to do its thing.

Make sure your tire pressures are good especially this time of year with cooler temps.

willyt
12-04-2013, 06:43 PM
hmm i used to get about 12-13 towing my 2005 X2 (very close to the same weight), single axle trailer with my 5.3 tahoe. 07 xstar brings it down to about 10.

bigger engine in the armada, yeah 10 sounds reasonable.

TOO-TALL
12-04-2013, 08:07 PM
Seems about right.i have the same boat with tandem trailer get about 10-11.pull with a 2003 f150 supercrew 5.4

Retoxtony
12-04-2013, 08:45 PM
Usually averaged about 10.5 or 11 mpg pulling my 205 with my 2011 ecoboost. That's at the speed limit on flat Saskatchewan highways.

Stritt
12-04-2013, 08:51 PM
Navigator L (extended) with 205 on a tandem we get 9-10...75mph from Knoxville to Dale Hollow (hills all the way). Now we leave the boat at the lake gas savings pays for storage cost and makes it much easier.

Jerseydave
12-04-2013, 09:06 PM
2013 F-150 Eco-boost gets 10 mpg towing the X-star. 65 mph
13-14 mpg towing the prostar. 18 mpg solo.
My '07 Yukon XL Denali 6.2 got the same exact mpg's.

IIRC my buddy's Nissan pickup 5.4 liter sucked up gas when towing his X-1.

willyt
12-05-2013, 12:27 AM
jersey... seriously? the EB gets 10 mpg towing your star?

that may have flipped me from wanting an EB to a GMC 6.2.

rgardjr1
12-05-2013, 01:50 AM
jersey... seriously? the EB gets 10 mpg towing your star?

that may have flipped me from wanting an EB to a GMC 6.2.

I'm going to be shopping for a truck this year. The new GM 6.2 looks great on paper. I've heard that the EB tows like a champ, but mileage isn't that great. My buddy was at the auto show last weekend and said that the Dodge had his favorite interior when you start comparing top of the line trim levels. I plan on driving them all. Looking forward to getting a mpg bump coming from my 2003 Sierra Denali.

Stefan
12-05-2013, 02:32 AM
18-20mpg towing ;) , Touareg V8 TDI with X-15, we'll see how the X-46 will do next season

swatguy
12-05-2013, 05:32 AM
I get 10 towing my 2000 Star at about 75 MPH with my Tahoe.

2RLAKE
12-05-2013, 06:18 AM
Ryan, tell Sue you need to buy a place at Norris so you leave the boat there! Just think of the gas savings.

great point ... if i was a sarcastic bastard, and i'm not of course, i'd say i dont know what my mileage is towing my X14 1/4 mile twice a year ... once to put it in and once to pull it out ... occasionally i need to use a different ramp and then its maybe 5 miles ... that probably cost me another 25 cents

my neighbors log home is for sale ... then you could be my neighbor!

mikeg205
12-05-2013, 09:20 AM
10-12 mpg on my 02 E150 and 02 Explorer. Haul it to Ontario every year.... Spend more time at 60 mph when towing to maximize fuel consumption.

mikeg205
12-05-2013, 09:21 AM
great point ... if i was a sarcastic bastard, and i'm not of course, i'd say i dont know what my mileage is towing my X14 1/4 mile twice a year ... once to put it in and once to pull it out ... occasionally i need to use a different ramp and then its maybe 5 miles ... that probably cost me another 25 cents

my neighbors log home is for sale ... then you could be my neighbor!

lol... :D - "in all seriousness" right ;) :D

MattsCraft
12-05-2013, 10:04 AM
My Touareg TDI gets 13-14 for that same tow Cincy to Norris, 29 all around not towing, but I am not shy with it, 80 downhill and 70 up. I run her in manual, 8th on the downhills, 7th gear on the ups, occasionally have to drop her to 6th if I get stuck and have to pass on the uphills. RPM range is 1800 to 2800. Loving the TDI!

I would say for a gasser, this is about right, my Ram 1500 would get about 9 for the same tow, and you would really have to do 85 downhill and be lucky for 65 uphill without blowing out the RPM's.

scott023
12-05-2013, 10:24 AM
My 2013 Sierra Denali got 17mpg towing the 45 down to Idaho this past summer.

willyt
12-05-2013, 10:24 AM
my neighbors log home is for sale ... then you could be my neighbor!

just like i need that star, matt you need that house

JohnE
12-05-2013, 10:56 AM
I got 15 mpg towing my 197 w/ mini tower and only around 10 - 11 mpg towing my X14. I was really surprised at the difference. Both with my 05 Avalanche 1500.

Aric'sX15
12-05-2013, 11:09 AM
pulled budmanv24's x1 for 550 miles to broken bow and back, averaged 14.8 in my 2011 5.0

Aric'sX15
12-05-2013, 11:10 AM
My 2013 Sierra Denali got 17mpg towing the 45 down to Idaho this past summer.

how fast were you going? that motor can't get 17 highway unloaded!!! lol.

not bashing, that just seems high!

scott023
12-05-2013, 11:34 AM
how fast were you going? that motor can't get 17 highway unloaded!!! lol.

not bashing, that just seems high!

That's classified... but I can tell you I have a heavy foot and utilize the Valentine 1 in the truck. The boat and truck were loaded up too... eight day family vacation.

2RLAKE
12-05-2013, 01:15 PM
just like i need that star, matt you need that house

... And if would be a definite upgrade being next to me vs Chris!

SKIBUMM
12-05-2013, 01:20 PM
I have two vehicles that I can use. My boat is similar in weight to a prostar 190
2003 Yukon with 5.3 (stock)get 16mpg empty and around 13-14 towing.
2007 FJ cruiser (lifted with bigger tires) gets around 14 empty and under 9 towing. I don't even want to know exactly as it suck the fuel bad. It has a very small tank also so you never let a gas station pass. I think it does so well because of its highly efficient aerodynamics. I call it the flying brick.

TayMC197
12-05-2013, 01:32 PM
I get about 14-15 pulling at 75-80 and 15-16 pulling 65-70. Back in May I pulled my 197 loaded to Louisianna doing about 85-90 most of the way and got 14.... I'm pulling with a tuned duramax GMC... Unloaded it gets about 20-23 depending on conditions.

I did pull a Xstar and got the same reading at 65-70. I didn't speed with it since it wasn't mine.

bsloop
12-05-2013, 02:05 PM
HAND CALCULATED on road trips towing my 240sc.
12.5 mpg : KC-Las Vegas-Havasu-KC and KC-Lake of Ozarks round trips.
13mpg KC-Lake Austin.

Boat/trailer scale about 7k plus gear in truck.
2008 Duramax. Avg 68 mph.

A buddy with Mid2000's Chevy 2500 gasser with 4.10 gears got between 9-10 towing my boat to LOTO. don't remember speed
'94 Suburban TBI 5.7 with 3.23 gears got 10ish when towing 65 mph highway. (but towed like a dog)

Armada/Titan is not known as a fuel efficient vehicle so 10mpg does not surprise.
Drop to 63-65mph and I would not be surprised if you pick up at least 1mpg if that is your goal.
Speed is the biggest mpg killer over a distance.

millpondkid
12-05-2013, 02:42 PM
I get a solid 14 with my chipped 00 f-250 7.3 turbo diesel pulling. 84 s.s. I check mirrors often to make sure its still there as I can't feel a thing. Price at the pump hurts a little but I couldn't handle the 9-10 these gassers get.

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 03:06 PM
The difference between me storing it at home and burning 1 full tank each lake towing it versus storing it 1 mile from our club’s lake was alot... About $450/month. This is assuming 4 trips to lake per week (16x a month). MPG is roughly decreased by 50% towing for me.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2013, 03:09 PM
HAND CALCULATED on road trips towing my 240sc.
12.5 mpg : KC-Las Vegas-Havasu-KC and KC-Lake of Ozarks round trips.
13mpg KC-Lake Austin.

Boat/trailer scale about 7k plus gear in truck.
2008 Duramax. Avg 68 mph.

A buddy with Mid2000's Chevy 2500 gasser with 4.10 gears got between 9-10 towing my boat to LOTO. don't remember speed
'94 Suburban TBI 5.7 with 3.23 gears got 10ish when towing 65 mph highway. (but towed like a dog)

Armada/Titan is not known as a fuel efficient vehicle so 10mpg does not surprise.
Drop to 63-65mph and I would not be surprised if you pick up at least 1mpg if that is your goal.
Speed is the biggest mpg killer over a distance.

Trailer tires too.

skitilldark
12-05-2013, 04:14 PM
I have a GL 550 pulling a 209/X9 and the most I've gotten is 15, but mainly averages around 11 mpg.

JRW160
12-05-2013, 04:44 PM
That sounds pretty normal for an armada or titan. I get 9-10mpg towing my 2003 x-2 and about 14mpg not towing anything in my titan.

Kyle
12-05-2013, 04:47 PM
..........

Kyle
12-05-2013, 04:50 PM
The difference between me storing it at home and burning 1 full tank each lake towing it versus storing it 1 mile from our club’s lake was alot... About $450/month. This is assuming 4 trips to lake per week (16x a month). MPG is roughly decreased by 50% towing for me.

Get a mans truck that can haul your boat and out of the toy box truck. The yota was meant for people who have no toys but want a truck bed. If the rig weighs more than the truck you might want to scratch your head and think.


My F150 KR gets 17 empty 15 hauling. I also have a heavy foot.

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 05:06 PM
Get a mans truck that can haul your boat and out of the toy box truck. The yota was meant for people who have no toys but want a truck bed. If the rig weighs more than the truck you might want to scratch your head and think.


My F150 KR gets 17 empty 15 hauling. I also have a heavy foot.

I get 19 city, 22 hwy and it's good enough to pull my boat ONE MILE to the boat ramp.

You must get the best mpg of anyone with a KR F150 - Ford claims 15 empty and towing I would think you get about the same as the Lincoln Navigator - 9-11.

enjoy your gas guzzler ;)

Kyle
12-05-2013, 05:10 PM
I get 19 city, 22 hwy and it's good enough to pull my boat ONE MILE to the boat ramp.

You must get the best mpg of anyone with a KR F150 - Ford claims 15 empty and towing I would think you get about the same as the Lincoln Navigator - 9-11.

enjoy your gas guzzler ;)

Umm do realize I do not do city driving. Only highway.

How can you count 3 miles daily until you get on highway city driving. Plus I drive 30-40k per year. I know 17 is what I'm getting...

The toy box must get 2 gallons to the mile just trying to get your rig Rollin

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 05:17 PM
Umm do realize I do not do city driving. Only highway.

How can you count 3 miles daily until you get on highway city driving. Plus I drive 30-40k per year. I know 17 is what I'm getting...

The toy box must get 2 gallons to the mile just trying to get your rig Rollin

Whatever you say :rolleyes:

Kyle
12-05-2013, 05:28 PM
Whatever you say :rolleyes:

Look it's my way, my way, my way. Do I make my self clear.

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 05:30 PM
Look it's my way, my way, my way. Do I make my self clear.

cut it out or i'm going to send u that video clip every 15 minutes for the next 24 hours

LMAO

Kyle
12-05-2013, 05:32 PM
cut it out or i'm going to send u that video clip every 15 minutes for the next 24 hours

LMAO

I'll just block ur number until Saturday :wavey:

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 07:23 PM
I'll just block ur number until Saturday :wavey:

Ahhh, yes, technology is a dangerous thing in the wrong hands... LOL

I wonder if the iPhone blocks only SMS or both SMS and MMS messages...

MC

mikeg205
12-05-2013, 07:25 PM
Cut it out girls... ;) where's the love... ;)

TxsRiverRat
12-05-2013, 07:56 PM
Happiness is driving a beaterbomb 200K mi pickup in inclement weather, knowing everyone elses accident risk is higher than mine

Just sayin ;)

kbrighton
12-05-2013, 08:06 PM
I get 12 mpg towing my 190 on the highway with a BMW X5 4.4 V8. It gets between 18-22 unloaded so I guess that's not too bad.


Sent from my iPhone

Nick911
12-06-2013, 12:09 AM
C'mon now. Some of you are towing 100k boats with 75K vehicles are you're worried about mileage?

Seems legit.

JMLVMI
12-06-2013, 01:55 AM
C'mon now. Some of you are towing 100k boats with 75K vehicles are you're worried about mileage?

Seems legit.

This.

Stefan
12-06-2013, 02:35 AM
C'mon now. Some of you are towing 100k boats with 75K vehicles are you're worried about mileage?

Seems legit.

...the ratio fits, the numbers don't match

These days this is the greener version of "my dad can beat all your dad's asses anyday"

Aric'sX15
12-06-2013, 03:06 AM
I love the fighting dad comments. Becauase it's all so true. Lol. The "what mpg can I get" is a broad question with many variables.

Nick911
12-06-2013, 07:47 AM
Point I'm trying to make is the reality of someone who has a 100k wakeboat and 75K tow vehicle is the one or two MPG here or there is absolutely negligible.

CantRepeat
12-06-2013, 08:27 AM
I get 10 mpg while towing, downhill on a good day.

Ryan
12-06-2013, 08:38 AM
Point I'm trying to make is the reality of someone who has a 100k wakeboat and 75K tow vehicle is the one or two MPG here or there is absolutely negligible.

This is serious stuff here!! I'll have you know, I'm looking at a 3mpg deficit (not a meager 1-2, that's preposterous) with a boat that's only a few hundred pounds heavier than my last boat. Plus, I'm nowhere near the $175k mark for boat and truck does that mean I qualify to be price sensitive on gas?!? Totally kidding.

However, I am just looking for info that could impact my upcoming decision for a new tow vehicle. I'm more worried about the time to stop than the money. I was evaluating whether to drag this boat to MT & ID next summer. I figure that with mountains and adding bathroom breaks onto every stop will add a couple of hours onto each leg. After this thread it looks like a Suburban isn't going to help do much better.

MattsCraft
12-06-2013, 11:22 AM
just like i need that star, matt you need that house

... And if would be a definite upgrade being next to me vs Chris!

Yeah - Just need Willy and Rob to go in on it!

johnlanguab
12-06-2013, 01:00 PM
I get 10 mpg while towing, downhill on a good day.

I like that old Suburban.

I've got a V10 Excursion because they run forever, they're cheap, and they can pull whatever I need to due to the 3/4 ton chassis.

I get 14mpg unloaded and 11mpg with the boat behind me.

rjracin240
12-06-2013, 01:05 PM
That sounds pretty normal for an armada or titan. I get 9-10mpg towing my 2003 x-2 and about 14mpg not towing anything in my titan.

Used a Titan to tow a Honda Civic from PCola to Jacksonville Fl, averaged about 9-10MPG, similiar load with same open car trailer towing with my Crew Cab Frontier 16-17 MPG average. Towing 88 Prostar 190 16-17MPG @ 70MPH

willyt
12-06-2013, 02:19 PM
Yeah - Just need Willy and Rob to go in on it!

that could happen

Indyxc
12-06-2013, 03:57 PM
2012 GMC Savanna Van 2500 6.0, 6 spd, towed my X2 from Arkansas to Michigan, 14.0 MPG, 70 mph.

2011 5.3 Tahoe LTZ towing 04 Malibu VLX from Tampa to Michigan, 70 mph +, 10.5 mpg, with ****ty co driver.

scott023
12-06-2013, 04:00 PM
C'mon now. Some of you are towing 100k boats with 75K vehicles are you're worried about mileage?

Seems legit.

So true. We pay to play. That's just the way it is.

barefoot
12-06-2013, 04:13 PM
great point ... if i was a sarcastic bastard, and i'm not of course, i'd say i dont know what my mileage is towing my X14 1/4 mile twice a year ... once to put it in and once to pull it out ... occasionally i need to use a different ramp and then its maybe 5 miles ... that probably cost me another 25 cents


I'm gonna have to agree. It's hard to say what my MPG's are towing the S&S 500 yards to the launch. Oh, and it's down hill so that really throws things off. I probably use more gas coming up the hill with the trailer than going down with the boat. :confused:

Why does life have to be so difficult :D

Ryan
12-06-2013, 04:30 PM
I'm gonna have to agree. It's hard to say what my MPG's are towing the S&S 500 yards to the launch. Oh, and it's down hill so that really throws things off. I probably use more gas coming up the hill with the trailer than going down with the boat. :confused:

Why does life have to be so difficult :D

Thank heavens you and 2RLake weighed in. My decision is made.
I'll just buy a lake house. 8p LOL!

This seems to be the ultimate answer though: The only way to get good mileage is not to tow.

fskof
12-06-2013, 04:34 PM
Has anyone noticed any increase in MPG when towing with the towers lowered?

barefoot
12-06-2013, 06:14 PM
No problem, Ryan…I'm here to make a meaningful contribution to the MC community :D

strad
12-06-2013, 06:59 PM
Not sure if it will be helpful, but a obs Tahoe with a 350 and 4wd will do 12 mpg hwy towing an s and s. That's going about 60 mph. It is not fuel efficient, nor is it very happy towing the load up hills. Especially in 100 degree weather. It'll do it, just not very fast and not very happily. It'd be nice to have a cummins dodge for towing, but sadly due to people carrying needs the next tow vehicle will be an nnbs suburban.

2RLAKE
12-06-2013, 08:30 PM
I'm gonna have to agree. It's hard to say what my MPG's are towing the S&S 500 yards to the launch. Oh, and it's down hill so that really throws things off. I probably use more gas coming up the hill with the trailer than going down with the boat. :confused:

Why does life have to be so difficult :D

I 110% agree ... its tough being us ... i wonder if we could be any "Bama money to help supplement?

barefoot
12-06-2013, 10:06 PM
I'm surprised you don't get the deductions. I pay some very smart people a lot of money to find the loop holes in the tax code that enable me to deduct this. You should do the same!

Jerseydave
12-06-2013, 11:05 PM
jersey... seriously? the EB gets 10 mpg towing your star?

that may have flipped me from wanting an EB to a GMC 6.2.

Sad but true, but the extra torque is worth it over the high revving 6.2 Denali that I had.
40-65 acceleration entering a highway is impressive, plus I can actually increase speed going up hills.
I would imagine keeping it under 60 mph might gain 1-2 mpg but that's not me.

Nick911
12-06-2013, 11:09 PM
So true. We pay to play. That's just the way it is.

$o true.

Nick911
12-06-2013, 11:12 PM
Sad but true, but the extra torque is worth it over the high revving 6.2 Denali that I had.
40-65 acceleration entering a highway is impressive, plus I can actually increase speed going up hills.
I would imagine keeping it under 60 mph might gain 1-2 mpg but that's not me.

My Denali revs at about 2300 rpm while towing my X25 at 60 mph. I find when it really revs is in tow/haul mode as it shifts less. I'm ordering a new 2015 Yukon Denali. The new 6.2's are supposedly amazing engines.

GoneBoatN
12-07-2013, 04:42 PM
I get 10 mpg while towing, downhill on a good day.

+1. You forgot about the strong wind behind you. Less with a head wind. :D Oh well. It's just a boat.

ac505
12-08-2013, 04:14 AM
23-24mpg average towing a 2000 x-star with an audi a6 3.0tdi Quattro. Same trip without the boat would be 42mpg.

Stefan
12-08-2013, 04:56 AM
23-24mpg average towing a 2000 x-star with an audi a6 3.0tdi Quattro. Same trip without the boat would be 42mpg.

that's brave, aren't you well over the A6's towing rating even with an 2000 XStar?

scott023
12-08-2013, 11:58 AM
Sad but true, but the extra torque is worth it over the high revving 6.2 Denali that I had.
40-65 acceleration entering a highway is impressive, plus I can actually increase speed going up hills.
I would imagine keeping it under 60 mph might gain 1-2 mpg but that's not me.

Really? My Denali accelerates like a raped ape up mountain passes. I actually have to use every passingb lane when towing.

scott023
12-08-2013, 12:02 PM
My Denali revs at about 2300 rpm while towing my X25 at 60 mph. I find when it really revs is in tow/haul mode as it shifts less. I'm ordering a new 2015 Yukon Denali. The new 6.2's are supposedly amazing engines.

At 60mph our Denali runs about 2000rpm with the 45 in tow. I've been nothing but impressed with it.

Nordicron
12-08-2013, 12:09 PM
that's brave, aren't you well over the A6's towing rating even with an 2000 XStar?

Impressive mpg numbers! Best I could tell the a6 has a 4k towing limit so that star is surely over its towing limits. Prob kinda a white knuckle driving experience with that boat back there!

skitilldark
12-08-2013, 01:27 PM
C'mon now. Some of you are towing 100k boats with 75K vehicles are you're worried about mileage?

Seems legit.

LOL. Nice assessment.

Thrall
12-08-2013, 02:42 PM
Impressive mpg numbers! Best I could tell the a6 has a 4k towing limit so that star is surely over its towing limits. Prob kinda a white knuckle driving experience with that boat back there!

Gotta remember. US and Canadia are the only 2 countries that think you need a F550 Dooley a turbo Diesel with a 200hp chip and bilt trans to tow a row boat to the pond down the street! Haha
Rest of the world puts vehicles to use to their full capacity.
That said its mighty comfortable pulling about anything I hook up to my Mega cab diesel!

Stefan
12-08-2013, 03:20 PM
Impressive mpg numbers! Best I could tell the a6 has a 4k towing limit so that star is surely over its towing limits. Prob kinda a white knuckle driving experience with that boat back there!

I think the quattro A6 should have 2300kg(roughly 5000lbs) towing capacity, like my A8 quattro did have... should still be close with a 1st gen Xstar, but I don't think whiteknuckled...

ac505
12-09-2013, 04:30 AM
that's brave, aren't you well over the A6's towing rating even with an 2000 XStar?

The A6 is rated at 2200kg, so ample for a 2000 Xstar. I think they are rated lower in the US.

fskof
12-09-2013, 02:18 PM
Gotta remember. US and Canadia are the only 2 countries that think you need a F550 Dooley a turbo Diesel with a 200hp chip and bilt trans to tow a row boat to the pond down the street! Haha
Rest of the world puts vehicles to use to their full capacity.
That said its mighty comfortable pulling about anything I hook up to my Mega cab diesel!

So true!!!