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ourx15
10-06-2013, 09:33 PM
Hi, I was quoted by my dealer up here in Canada that its going to cost 850 dollars to winterize oil and tranny oil change. This sounds high!!! Wondering what others r paying, and also, if I have to go through my dealer. Another dealer said 550. And an ex dealer I know said he would do it for 400. But to keep my warranty, should I just go through my MC dealer and pay the 850?? Your thoughts are appreciated.

bbymgr
10-06-2013, 09:41 PM
It is $350-$400 here depending on make and model.

LaRue
10-06-2013, 09:52 PM
$200 with oil change here

JimN
10-06-2013, 09:56 PM
Hi, I was quoted by my dealer up here in Canada that its going to cost 850 dollars to winterize oil and tranny oil change. This sounds high!!! Wondering what others r paying, and also, if I have to go through my dealer. Another dealer said 550. And an ex dealer I know said he would do it for 400. But to keep my warranty, should I just go through my MC dealer and pay the 850?? Your thoughts are appreciated.

Ask for a comprehensive, itemized list. If no list, no business for that service shop. $850 is very high, unless they can justify their cost. If your boat gets Mobil 1 and it's $10/qt or liter, the oil change shouldn't cost more than $100. The transmission oil change shouldn't be more than $50 and these are on the high side, although they probably charge environmental fees.

mikeg205
10-06-2013, 09:59 PM
Depends on what is done on winterize.

fog, drain block, change oil/filter and stabilize fuel - should be no more than $200.

costs increase with tranny oil change, new impeller, clean spark arrestor, new plugs, back flush tranny oil cooler, fill block with anti-corrosion RV antifreeze, lube rudder box, flush heater, and shrink wrap... just sayin'

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
10-06-2013, 10:06 PM
Hi, I was quoted by my dealer up here in Canada that its going to cost 850 dollars to winterize oil and tranny oil change. This sounds high!!! Wondering what others r paying, and also, if I have to go through my dealer. Another dealer said 550. And an ex dealer I know said he would do it for 400. But to keep my warranty, should I just go through my MC dealer and pay the 850?? Your thoughts are appreciated.

What does winterizing have to do with warranty?

mikeg205
10-06-2013, 10:08 PM
What does winterizing have to do with warranty?

good question.. maybe engine warranty requires dealer winterization near Arctic.. :D

madcityskier
10-06-2013, 10:17 PM
Ballast, heater... depends on the options. But that sounds pretty high imho. Does it include heated indoor storage?

blackhawk
10-06-2013, 10:17 PM
Should cost no more than $400.

ourx15
10-06-2013, 10:20 PM
Not sure what the winterization covers. Will ask tomarrow. Is it rude to ask to watch them do the job. I feel if I'm paying that, I should be able to see what I'm paying for. Or am I off base?

ourx15
10-06-2013, 10:21 PM
No storage! It's $65 a month to store outside, and that's not happening. It will be indoors.

mikeg205
10-06-2013, 10:49 PM
your boat - your money - can't watch if you want to? Time to talk to dealer owener.. x-15 not an 81' searay.. ;)

bturner2
10-07-2013, 08:22 AM
I don't know. If they do it like I do mine it sounds about right but mine includes detailing the engine, bilge, interior, hull and trailer as well as all the normal engine, ballast and heater work to get the boat ready for the winter. It's all depend on what's included.

My local dealer offers a menu that includes pretty much what I've included above and the price for that I could quickly surpass the price you were quoted. It's all going to depend on what's on the list.

Being in Canada I would expect a good chunk of that is going to be inflated service parts prices, environmental fees and taxes in some form or another. As a comparison we recently purchased a Blue Ray Player for out cottage just outside Windsor. The base price for the device was about 15% more than in the states, the taxes on it were 5% more and to add insult to injury they added a recycling fee on top of all the rest of the taxes. I really like going to Canada but it's getting really expensive to hang out there. Even beer at out local dive bar has gotten to $4 a pint.

Retoxtony
10-07-2013, 11:39 AM
If your in Sask you must be talking about Martin? Everything i've ever priced there was way higher than anywhere else. I would take it to the cheaper dealer, its not exactly rocket science and $850 seems crazy to me.

atthelake
10-07-2013, 06:00 PM
Sounds like MMS to me. I always got mine done there, mostly due to the fact that I always had a list of warranty to do. I think alot of the high price comes with the fact they have enough "actual, real" work to do, so if you want them to take the two(?) hours to do your maintenace, then it'll cost ya.
I'm positive they would have no problem with you observing the process. Of course don't make a two hour job last for four hours. The old "Shop rate $50/hour, if you watch $75/hour, if you help $200/hr" comes into effect haha. They are pretty damn busy there, and probably short staffed. I would say the more menial tasks we can do, the happier they are.

I'm pretty happy with the crew there. Actually looking at getting a 2014 X30 as I type.

ourx15
10-07-2013, 11:10 PM
Yes, I am very happy with the sales team. They go above and beyond to make me happy. I want to give them the business, but when I talked to them today, there list was the same as the other guys. As far as the winterizing went. And if I can get it done for 1/2 the price??? Well, I'm sorry but I will be taking it to the cheaper place. O ya, the list was oil change, antifreeze through entire system, and a hull inspection. That's it. Thanks for your input guys.

mikeg205
10-07-2013, 11:23 PM
Yes, I am very happy with the sales team. They go above and beyond to make me happy. I want to give them the business, but when I talked to them today, there list was the same as the other guys. As far as the winterizing went. And if I can get it done for 1/2 the price??? Well, I'm sorry but I will be taking it to the cheaper place. O ya, the list was oil change, antifreeze through entire system, and a hull inspection. That's it. Thanks for your input guys.

Oil + Filter and ATF - must be real 'spensive in the great white north.. ;) - what do you get with a hull inspection? Lift off trailer an a look with --xray glasses?

atthelake
10-08-2013, 12:51 AM
If your in Sask you must be talking about Martin? Everything i've ever priced there was way higher than anywhere else. I would take it to the cheaper dealer, its not exactly rocket science and $850 seems crazy to me.

I don't blame ya. Thats a tank and a half of premium...

Thrall
10-08-2013, 02:32 AM
Well if you can't do it yourself then whatever the market will bear.
Takes about $100 in parts including a new impeller, all the fluids and filter. Not the trans and fuel filter another $100 for those but they only need done every few hundred hours if at all.

Takes me about 3 hours to completely winterize the boat.

$850 sounds extreme. More like $400 at $100/ hr labor.

Rossterman
10-08-2013, 06:20 AM
Not sure many shops will let you watch them do the work. Typically insurance rules prevent customers being in the service areas unless for a brief, escorted visit to look at/discuss a repair.

JimN
10-08-2013, 09:46 AM
Yes, I am very happy with the sales team. They go above and beyond to make me happy. I want to give them the business, but when I talked to them today, there list was the same as the other guys. As far as the winterizing went. And if I can get it done for 1/2 the price??? Well, I'm sorry but I will be taking it to the cheaper place. O ya, the list was oil change, antifreeze through entire system, and a hull inspection. That's it. Thanks for your input guys.

What about removing the battery, servicing the trailer (if it's used frequently), anti-corrosion, fluid/filter change, etc? That's a pretty short list for $850. Does that include getting it ready for Summer when Winter is over? Some dealers include this.

ourx15
10-08-2013, 11:27 PM
Nope. The only things that are done to it, I have explained. So I confronted the service dept. that I found another company to do it, the exact same thing for half the price. The response was.... OK that's fine. I hope others realize that they are insane with there charge. I would understand if it included more things. It is blatant RIP OFF!!!!!!

AlbertaSurfer
10-08-2013, 11:30 PM
I did my own for about $80. It helps you learn your boat, and it's not difficult.

ProStar190Fan
10-09-2013, 12:05 AM
$850 is crazy, mines $180 in the fall and about $150 in the spring for a PS190.

mikeg205
10-09-2013, 12:20 AM
oil, tranny oil, oil filter, 5 gallons RV Antifreeze - clean spark arrestor, fog motor, new sparky plugs in spring, clean spark arrestor - have cheap non gas paying friends bring beer for winterizing party - done! I know there's a good list...this is just sayin.. ;)

jgraham37128
10-09-2013, 07:53 AM
$850.00? Just build a heated garage for it!

Lumbergh
10-09-2013, 11:06 AM
I feel DIY is both less expensive and I know it is done right with quality components.

My efforts cost less than $100, go far beyond what my local overpriced boat shop will do, and I don't have to tow it around.

V-drives are more complicated, yes, but any DD owner should be able to winterize and spring prep.

But this is America, where the average male can't change the oil, sparkplugs, brakes and so on in his own automobile. Which is basic man stuff in my book.

mikeg205
10-09-2013, 11:12 AM
I feel DIY is both less expensive and I know it is done right with quality components.

My efforts cost less than $100, go far beyond what my local overpriced boat shop will do, and I don't have to tow it around.

V-drives are more complicated, yes, but any DD owner should be able to winterize and spring prep.

But this is America, where the average male can't change the oil, sparkplugs, brakes and so on in his own automobile. Which is basic man stuff in my book.

hear hear... :)

bturner2
10-09-2013, 02:18 PM
I hear that. My neighbors look at me like I'm a mad scientist or master mechanic when I'm doing basic maintenance on my cars/boats in the drive way. Even had one ask if I was from the south because in his mind only "rednecks" can work on their own gear (I took that as a compliment BTW).

On the flip side it does make you popular with the ladies when you can fix things and their guys can't. As Red Green says "if you can't be hansom, be handy"....... :)

mikeg205
10-09-2013, 02:31 PM
I hear that. My neighbors look at me like I'm a mad scientist or master mechanic when I'm doing basic maintenance on my cars/boats in the drive way. Even had one ask if I was from the south because in his mind only "rednecks" can work on their own gear (I took that as a compliment BTW).

On the flip side it does make you popular with the ladies when you can fix things and their guys can't. As Red Green says "if you can't be hansom, be handy"....... :)

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96Maristar
10-25-2013, 10:26 AM
Our local marina, which is a Mastercraft dealership, offers an oil change, impeller replacement and turn key winterization for $275. I would do the winterization myself but that's a good deal for the package so we went with it.

sp00ky
10-25-2013, 01:37 PM
I feel DIY is both less expensive and I know it is done right with quality components.

My efforts cost less than $100, go far beyond what my local overpriced boat shop will do, and I don't have to tow it around.

V-drives are more complicated, yes, but any DD owner should be able to winterize and spring prep.

But this is America, where the average male can't change the oil, sparkplugs, brakes and so on in his own automobile. Which is basic man stuff in my book.

Yeah I score a perfect 100 on your man test! Whew!

kbrighton
10-26-2013, 07:50 PM
I just paid $150 for the drain, antifreeze, sta-bil, fog, Mobil 1 change job. I can take care of the rest myself. Did new spark plugs, starter, impeller, thermostat this season. Plans for spring are dist cap, tranny fluid, and another oil change

Greenster
10-26-2013, 08:04 PM
I need to have a talk with our local dealer. They charged me $299 which did not include oil change. Hum...

JimN
10-26-2013, 09:15 PM
I hear that. My neighbors look at me like I'm a mad scientist or master mechanic when I'm doing basic maintenance on my cars/boats in the drive way. Even had one ask if I was from the south because in his mind only "rednecks" can work on their own gear (I took that as a compliment BTW).

On the flip side it does make you popular with the ladies when you can fix things and their guys can't. As Red Green says "if you can't be hansom, be handy"....... :)

"Duct tape- handyman's secret weapon!".

Snipe
10-27-2013, 09:29 AM
[QUOTE=mikeg205;983360]Depends on what is done on winterize.

fog, drain block, change oil/filter and stabilize fuel - should be no more than $200.

I'm with you, Mike :eek::eek:

sully
10-27-2013, 01:47 PM
Did mine myself for less than $50 dollars.
Four gallons of RV antifreeze @ 2.50 a gallon.
Five quarts Vavoline 20W-50 racing oil @ 4.00.
Plus Fram filter. Plus a few misc items.


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mikeg205
10-27-2013, 02:04 PM
Did mine myself for less than $50 dollars.
Four gallons of RV antifreeze @ 2.50 a gallon.
Five quarts Vavoline 20W-50 racing oil @ 4.00.
Plus Fram filter. Plus a few misc items.


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Fram???? omg... have you not been paying attention? :eek::eek::eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRgw4B7R-I

bjames
10-29-2013, 04:45 PM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.

mastercraft1995
10-29-2013, 05:21 PM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.

2 hours for a filter and impeller? Did they at least kiss you? because you got screwed.

mikeg205
10-29-2013, 06:02 PM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.

You sure it wasn't that Canadian Harmonized Tax Thingy? ouch!

scott023
10-29-2013, 06:08 PM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.

Martin simply shafts you on winterization. I'll never take mine there, got my first one thrown in when we bought the boat, but it hasn't gone back since. WAY too expensive.

scott023
10-29-2013, 06:09 PM
You sure it wasn't that Canadian Harmonized Tax Thingy? ouch!

No such thing up here in Alberta. C'mon Mike, get your facts straight. :D

jgraham37128
10-29-2013, 06:17 PM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.

bjames, you're smarter than this!

thatsmrmastercraft
10-29-2013, 06:23 PM
No such thing up here in Alberta. C'mon Mike, get your facts straight. :D

Since when are we required to have a factual basis for anything here?

scott023
10-29-2013, 07:19 PM
Since when are we required to have a factual basis for anything here?

Good point. :uglyhamme

mikeg205
10-29-2013, 07:38 PM
No such thing up here in Alberta. C'mon Mike, get your facts straight. :D

do you still have GST and PST? IN Ontario they harmonized the tax to hoodwink the population of Ontario...:confused:

scott023
10-29-2013, 08:32 PM
do you still have GST and PST? IN Ontario they harmonized the tax to hoodwink the population of Ontario...:confused:

In some provinces. Not in Alberta, just GST here.

Miss Rita
10-29-2013, 08:56 PM
5 qts of Rotella - $15
FL1-A filter - $4
Stabil - $3
fogging oil - free
2 qts of ATF - $4

Total cash outlay was $26. I bought a new impeller last spring, took it out, looks great, will let it "rest" over the winter. Total time: about two hours. It took less time to do it myself than it would take to make two round trips to the dealer.

Value of doing the job myself, knowing it was done right: Priceless

thatsmrmastercraft
10-29-2013, 08:59 PM
5 qts of Rotella - $15
FL1-A filter - $4
Stabil - $3
fogging oil - free
2 qts of ATF - $4

Total cash outlay was $26. I bought a new impeller last spring, took it out, looks great, will let it "rest" over the winter. Total time: about two hours. It took less time to do it myself than it would take to make two round trips to the dealer.

Value of doing the job myself, knowing it was done right: Priceless

Congrats on a job well done.

scott023
10-29-2013, 09:14 PM
5 qts of Rotella - $15
FL1-A filter - $4
Stabil - $3
fogging oil - free
2 qts of ATF - $4

Total cash outlay was $26. I bought a new impeller last spring, took it out, looks great, will let it "rest" over the winter. Total time: about two hours. It took less time to do it myself than it would take to make two round trips to the dealer.

Value of doing the job myself, knowing it was done right: Priceless

That's the ticket. I have a buddy that has his own business doing boat "stuff", so I support him all that I can. Otherwise I'd do it myself too.

Bert
10-31-2013, 12:08 AM
Next year I AM DOING IT MYSELF! I will modify a 5 gal pail with a pump buy whever tools/attachements are nessesary and make the job easier. But after picking my boat up from the dealer for a 100hour service and winterizing and refilling the trailer brake oil, it cost me over $1300.

At $130 per hour shop rate, it adds up way too fast. 2 hours to remove the impellor and change the fuel filter.

I just dont feel good about this.
You shouldn't feel good. That is crazy.

I change all fluids, winterize engine, exhaust, heater, shower, change impellor and grease steering. Takes a couple of hours.
I couldn't ever let some flunkie working at a boat shop winterize my boat. I would have to check it myself so might as well do it.

JimN
10-31-2013, 07:24 AM
You shouldn't feel good. That is crazy.

I change all fluids, winterize engine, exhaust, heater, shower, change impellor and grease steering. Takes a couple of hours.
I couldn't ever let some flunkie working at a boat shop winterize my boat. I would have to check it myself so might as well do it.

I sure hope no current/former service department flunkies are reading this thread- they might be offended.

Greenster
10-31-2013, 02:59 PM
After reading about how much I got ripped off. I dont think that I will ever go back to my local dealer. Its one thing to make a living, it is another to take advantage of a customer.

JimN
10-31-2013, 03:26 PM
After reading about how much I got ripped off. I dont think that I will ever go back to my local dealer. Its one thing to make a living, it is another to take advantage of a customer.

You might want to call around to get competing pricing, with an itemized list, from other dealers. If they differ wildly, I would go to your (former) dealer and ask why they charged so much.

One thing that I have seen with some dealers is a tendency to raise the shop labor rate for the sole reason that the others in the area had raised theirs. There was no increase in training level, parts availability, facilities, tools, doing a better job/better CSI or treating customers better than before. If they were offering more, doing better work and hiring better-trained techs, it wouldn't be as much of a problem and if a shop really impresses customers with their speed, thoroughness, lack of back-ordered items, making the customers feel welcome and important, they should be able to charge well for their services but some are just inept, rude, inconsiderate, yada, yada, yada.

It's up to you people, as customers, to hold the dealers' feet to the fire when the experience is less than "stellar". When it's just a miserable chore to deal with them, it's time for their quarterly/annual reality check. If they just don't get the message, MC (or, whatever manufacturer is involved) to hear about it. Some dealers take a "feast or famine" approach to billing and that's extremely unfair to the customers. It's not the fault of the customers if the company can't make money when (economic) times are good.

roadster02
10-31-2013, 03:35 PM
Another oil change in the spring? Are you using the boat thru the winter?


I just paid $150 for the drain, antifreeze, sta-bil, fog, Mobil 1 change job. I can take care of the rest myself. Did new spark plugs, starter, impeller, thermostat this season. Plans for spring are dist cap, tranny fluid, and another oil change

bjames
10-31-2013, 06:04 PM
I sure hope no current/former service department flunkies are reading this thread- they might be offended.

:uglyhamme... good point, But in all seriousness, I wouldnt be surprised that some service reps may use this forum as a resource to help trouble shoot problems.

JimN
10-31-2013, 06:55 PM
:uglyhamme... good point, But in all seriousness, I wouldnt be surprised that some service reps may use this forum as a resource to help trouble shoot problems.

And former ones, like me.

scott023
10-31-2013, 07:37 PM
"the world needs ditch diggers too". Judge Smails

JimN
10-31-2013, 08:50 PM
"the world needs ditch diggers too". Judge Smails

But they don't like to be called 'flunkies', either.

If this was easy to do, everyone would know what they were doing but that's clearly not the case. All of the posts and threads describing how a buttload of parts didn't fix a given problem and, in many cases, causes additional ones, show that willingness to tackle a problem doesn't equal ability. What I have a problem with is dealers who charge a lot and don't deliver. There's no excuse for that.

scott023
10-31-2013, 09:35 PM
I agree, no need to call anyone flunkies. They have professionals to do jobs for a reason...

JimN
10-31-2013, 09:39 PM
I agree, no need to call anyone flunkies. They have professionals to do jobs for a reason...

OTOH, the guy who replaced me at the dealership where they had a management meltdown had worked for another shop down the road and the owner of that place said "I wouldn't let that guy work on a little outboard". His dad was the new VP of sales. In a company of 5 people, they needed to make him VP of sales. Right.

kbrighton
11-02-2013, 10:40 AM
Another oil change in the spring? Are you using the boat thru the winter?

No. This was my first season with it, so I am going to do another one after the first sets of the spring just for my piece of mind. The block drain hose cap was stuck on, so my mechanic had to suck the oil out of the dipstick. I will either get the cap off, or cut it off and replace it so I know I got a good full drain the 2nd time around. I put 60 hours on it this year, on the previous owners fall oil change. He said it got done, but you never know. It has always used Mobil 1, so it should have been ok. I will feel better about the 42 mph footin runs knowing the oil is nice and fresh.

davidstan
11-04-2013, 04:43 PM
I paid 520.00 for oil, filter, tranny service, impeller, drain water replace with AF, spark plugs, fogging, stabil so was that high? Seemed about right as some of the stuff i dont do every year.

mikeg205
11-04-2013, 04:46 PM
I paid 520.00 for oil, filter, tranny service, impeller, drain water replace with AF, spark plugs, fogging, stabil so was that high? Seemed about right as some of the stuff i dont do every year.

Glad I do it myself... no fuel filter for $520? ;)

scott023
11-04-2013, 05:15 PM
Glad I do it myself... no fuel filter for $520? ;)

The fuel filter may be a "frill". :D

thatsmrmastercraft
11-04-2013, 05:23 PM
The fuel filter may be a "frill". :D

Funny guy.:D

scott023
11-04-2013, 05:29 PM
Funny guy.:D

Needed to be said. ;)

roadster02
12-20-2013, 05:54 PM
That sounds resonable. I was just wondering. Mobil1, seems to be good stuff.

No. This was my first season with it, so I am going to do another one after the first sets of the spring just for my piece of mind. The block drain hose cap was stuck on, so my mechanic had to suck the oil out of the dipstick. I will either get the cap off, or cut it off and replace it so I know I got a good full drain the 2nd time around. I put 60 hours on it this year, on the previous owners fall oil change. He said it got done, but you never know. It has always used Mobil 1, so it should have been ok. I will feel better about the 42 mph footin runs knowing the oil is nice and fresh.

XSTAR40
04-13-2014, 10:31 AM
Picture of 2013 MMS winterize option plans. Picture a bit fuzzy. Sorry,

Opinions?

mikeg205
04-13-2014, 10:42 AM
Nice to see a value of my own winterization :) - $540

$540 seems a bit pricey for what they do - does it include a new impeller?

Oil change $140? really? wow...

XSTAR40
04-13-2014, 11:23 AM
Parts and supplies are extra! Over and above.

JimN
04-13-2014, 11:29 AM
Nice to see a value of my own winterization :) - $540

$540 seems a bit pricey for what they do - does it include a new impeller?

Oil change $140? really? wow...

How long does it take for you to do a complete Winterization? Does the dealer charge extra to Summerize, or does the boat owners have to do it for themselves?

mikeg205
04-13-2014, 12:19 PM
Parts and supplies are extra! Over and above.

For some folks this is a bargain - would be fun to just drive down to water and have boat waiting ready to go - cover off and detailed and gassed up.

:D :D :D

GoneBoatN
04-13-2014, 12:49 PM
My local dealer usually offers a $99 special at the end of the season. They antifreeze the boat (engine, ballast and accessories - e.g. shower). Drain as much as possible afterwards. Fog cylinders and then re-install the spark plugs. This way it is set for winter temps and you are good to go for startup in spring. Everything else they do as service work for 50/100/300hr intervals and that is billed separately. Pretty good deal but I still do my own.

Myself, I like doing my own winterization. I also do some of the service items at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I like my dealer/mechanic and I value them highly. When the boat truly is broken I do NEED them. I just like "knowing" my boat and absolutely no reason I can't change oil, clean an air filter, squeeze a grease gun, align engine (god it runs smooth when done right), change gas pump filter,...

Then one thing I have yet to do myself is the cap and rotor. I'll need to get the Rinda software so that I can do that myself as well.

As to if it is worth it or not. That is a supply vs demand issue and eye of the beholder thing.

mikeg205
04-13-2014, 12:53 PM
My local dealer usually offers a $99 special at the end of the season. They antifreeze the boat (engine, ballast and accessories - e.g. shower). Drain as much as possible afterwards. Fog cylinders and then re-install the spark plugs. This way it is set for winter temps and you are good to go for startup in spring. Everything else they do as service work for 50/100/300hr intervals and that is billed separately. Pretty good deal but I still do my own.

Myself, I like doing my own winterization. I also do some of the service items at the same time. Don't get me wrong - I like my dealer/mechanic and I value them highly. When the boat truly is broken I do NEED them. I just like "knowing" my boat and absolutely no reason I can't change oil, clean an air filter, squeeze a grease gun, align engine (god it runs smooth when done right), change gas pump filter,...

Then one thing I have yet to do myself is the cap and rotor. I'll need to get the Rinda software so that I can do that myself as well.

As to if it is worth it or not. That is a supply vs demand issue and eye of the beholder thing.

Why do you diagnostic tools to change the cap and rotor? do you need to change something in the cals file?

GoneBoatN
04-13-2014, 01:43 PM
Why do you diagnostic tools to change the cap and rotor? do you need to change something in the cals file?

From what I can tell by digging through Indmar information, it is need to set the cam angle. See attachment.

mikeg205
04-13-2014, 01:47 PM
From what I can tell by digging through Indmar information, it is need to set the cam angle. See attachment.

can't just swap out the parts... too bad...

GoneBoatN
04-13-2014, 02:04 PM
can't just swap out the parts... too bad...

Yes, and the software is not exactly inexpensive. Maybe I should say it is in-line with everything else boating related.

mikeg205
04-13-2014, 02:34 PM
Yes, and the software is not exactly inexpensive. Maybe I should say it is in-line with everything else boating related.

Don't say it!

JimN
04-13-2014, 03:06 PM
It's not cheap software and people wonder why dealers have to charge so much for servicing these. :rolleyes: