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bochnak
09-29-2013, 02:52 PM
Hi,

My name is Matt and just recently joined this forum. My in laws just picked up a lakehouse and we all decided to chip in for a ski boat. I used to go boating all the time in my 20's, and that kind of came to an end when I got married and started having kids. Kids are now ages 6, 4.5, & 2.5.

The lake is 162 acres or so and is glass all day long. On busy days, I see about 3 boats out, and usually only one of them actually moving.

Plan is to do all the watersports: tubing, skiing, slalom, wakeboarding, & wakesurfing.

So we picked up this 94' for 9100. Asking price was 9800.

600hrs on hull
<100hrs on Jasper motor. (PO cracked block winterizing it. MC dealer installed. $4300)
3 & 4 blade props
2x single tubes
1x double tube
2 pairs of skiis
fake lake
Pull over cover


Problems I need to address:
Oil pressure gauge does not work
Thermostat gasket leaking and temp hovers at 130
Alternator is shot
Trailer surge brakes do not work
Buff & new decals
Blower hose is torn near blower motor
Gas shocks are missing for motorbox
New head unit and speakers
Keel roller



Pics:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Ipom0_V002s/UkhxYcgYZAI/AAAAAAAABaA/w4-GWnrMst0/w868-h577-no/DSC_5799.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WTgpBh2aEPk/UkhxX0bCkAI/AAAAAAAABZ4/Bq0xi5vSCSw/w868-h577-no/DSC_5800.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KUH0sxezaXM/UkhxmypcrYI/AAAAAAAABao/oshu9gEbgOU/w384-h577-no/DSC_5805.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F2a3Z2l1Z2o/Ukhxp00DcpI/AAAAAAAABaw/VdQJow9v7ks/w868-h577-no/DSC_5806.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kPNw3G29mtI/UkhxsttGNEI/AAAAAAAABa4/EIhnS0H5390/w868-h577-no/DSC_5807.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-E9aBgbf0eUA/UkhxuWyLYNI/AAAAAAAABbA/KN46Wi41Ies/w384-h577-no/DSC_5808.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qwhh8I0K3vg/UkhxxoenOYI/AAAAAAAABbI/SR1k5xscMqk/w384-h577-no/DSC_5809.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BbsUOMqGKGE/Ukhx0GQuxfI/AAAAAAAABbQ/OP-K9tRI59Q/w868-h577-no/DSC_5810.JPG

Double D
09-29-2013, 03:25 PM
Congrats on the new boat and welcome to TT. Not sure about wakesurfing behind that thing but you picked up a great boat! I am a bit bias since I have owned one since 2001. Let me know if you have any questions and I will try to help.

If you didn't tell us the motor was changed I would have never known. Everything looks similar to my Indmar 350.

MI_Corey
09-29-2013, 03:42 PM
Very nice. Definitely a good all around boat. My parents have had their '93 205 since '98 and always been happy with it. Doesn't look like it will take much to have yours in great shape. Once you start, MCOCD will kick in though. Team talk is like group therapy for it.

OHIOPRO205
09-29-2013, 03:58 PM
Great Choice. Welcome to TT. I also have a 94.

scott023
09-29-2013, 04:23 PM
Nice boat, congrats on the purchase.

TOO-TALL
09-29-2013, 04:27 PM
Very nice

bochnak
09-30-2013, 08:41 AM
Thanks, everyone!

bochnak
09-30-2013, 08:50 AM
Oil Pressure Gauge

The gauge read 40psi with key on engine off and 80psi when running. PO replaced sending unit right before we showed up and did not fix problem.

Once I got it home, I ohmed out the sending unit with engine off and got 240 ohms. I also tested this at gauge and received the same value. Did the same while boat was running and recieved 100 ohms at both locations. So I assumed gauge was bad.

So I bought this gauge which is the closest match I found:

Teleflex 30180 Prism Series Boat Oil PSI Gauge (http://greatlakesskipper.com/teleflex-30180-prism-series-boat-oil-psi-gauge)

It's 95% correct, the lens and bezel is different and does not have the star on the face:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8O4rgFIvpFU/Ukhx5F3IDkI/AAAAAAAABbg/yWfYFuI33wQ/w974-h648-no/DSC_5812.JPG

madcityskier
09-30-2013, 09:26 AM
Discount inboard marine will be a resource. skidim.com I'd contact them to get a catalogue sent sooner than later. They're very knowledgeable.
Nice boat, you're gonna love it.

bochnak
09-30-2013, 09:31 AM
Discount inboard marine will be a resource. skidim.com I'd contact them to get a catalogue sent sooner than later. They're very knowledgeable.
Nice boat, you're gonna love it.

Already placed an order from them. I did receive the catalog. Thanks for the info.


Thermostat

The thermostat housing was leaking, so I took it all apart and found no gasket. Also, the temp gauge hovered around 130 during water test. I took the thermostat out and dunked it in hot water. I noticed that is started to open/close at the 120 mark. I ordered a new 142 and gasket. Same hot water test with new t-stat shows open/close as advertised. So hopefully the temp will go to normal now.

bochnak
09-30-2013, 09:34 AM
Here is view of the lake. I'm standing on the end of dock:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TEZ9x5LWti8/Ukl9uMLj7KI/AAAAAAAABcU/ZM0hR8Z6tyc/w974-h648-no/DSC_4575.JPG

mikeg205
09-30-2013, 09:51 AM
Nice boat! Welcome

I can help you out with decals for cheaps. dog house gas shocks are cheap.

What lake is that? looks nice. lot's of great resources and people here.

you should pop rises and take a look inside there.. also check prop shaft alignment -

another cheap job is shaft packing...

I rebuilt my trailer brakes... not hard.

How are the trailer tires... ?

See you found etrailer - good folks to work with...

You will have to join us for the 2014 Illinois River Meetup...

Mike

bochnak
09-30-2013, 02:15 PM
Nice boat! Welcome

I can help you out with decals for cheaps. dog house gas shocks are cheap.

Thanks! Yes, please let me know more on the decals. That will be a winter project. I found the gas shock info in the FAQ. Any way you know the application info? I'd like to buy them from rockauto to save even more.

What lake is that? looks nice. lot's of great resources and people here.

Potter Lake, East Troy WI

you should pop rises and take a look inside there.. also check prop shaft alignment -

another cheap job is shaft packing...

I'll look into it. What am I looking for inside the risers?


I rebuilt my trailer brakes... not hard.

I have a master cylinder and wheel cylinders on the way. Everything else looks OK.


How are the trailer tires... ?

Need new ones. May hold off until later. Won't be towing more than 1/2mi once I take it up north in 2 weeks.


See you found etrailer - good folks to work with...

I was like "how did he know that?" I ordered a tranny and PS cooler for the SUV. I've had it in the box for about a year. Now I have a reason to put it on. I did order the keel roller from them.

You will have to join us for the 2014 Illinois River Meetup...

Let me know when it is :)

Mike

bochnak
09-30-2013, 02:17 PM
Here is a shot of me wakeboarding behind a Rinker I/O a few years ago. A crappy jump, but the best pic I have:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RIcYK1tzU4E/Ukm_7QpKb_I/AAAAAAAABcw/G1PuWZ61iy0/w974-h648-no/DSC_2510.JPG

bochnak
10-01-2013, 06:30 AM
Looking for info on where to buy new decals. Here they are:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kyKjGZiBj6Q/Ukhx7jzvVXI/AAAAAAAABbo/IbD3RY7emU4/w868-h577-no/DSC_5813.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xGbpcjkHwCg/Ukhx-dGBj2I/AAAAAAAABb4/18FIgSq16aI/w868-h577-no/DSC_5815.JPG


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--VfJvOVJpHw/Ukhx9IxtvCI/AAAAAAAABbw/PTSgTBNH2Qw/w868-h577-no/DSC_5814.JPG

Double D
10-01-2013, 08:15 AM
Looking for info on where to buy new decals. Here they are:



Everyone would always say call or talk to Jim@BAWS (Bay Area Water Sports) in Tampa and that is where I got my replacements. Now that Jim has passed I am not sure who to contact down there. I'm sure someone will chime in with some updated information.
Here is their web site http://www.bayareawatersports.com/

mikeg205
10-01-2013, 09:35 AM
Doghouse shock - strut SPD-GSN1-5300-60

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gas-Spring-SPD-GSNI-5300-60-Strut-Prop-Rod-RV-Camper-/350301239199

Riser pathways..

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g377/mgorczak/DSCN3602.jpg (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/mgorczak/media/DSCN3602.jpg.html)

etrailer? we look at the whole photo here - ;) - many folks have other interesting things to look at like other toys.. you had and etrailer box in one picture.

I'll post up a date next season...

mikeg205
10-01-2013, 09:35 AM
Here is a shot of me wakeboarding behind a Rinker I/O a few years ago. A crappy jump, but the best pic I have:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RIcYK1tzU4E/Ukm_7QpKb_I/AAAAAAAABcw/G1PuWZ61iy0/w974-h648-no/DSC_2510.JPG

nice pic... not much wash on wake :)

scott023
10-01-2013, 09:43 AM
Here is view of the lake. I'm standing on the end of dock:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-TEZ9x5LWti8/Ukl9uMLj7KI/AAAAAAAABcU/ZM0hR8Z6tyc/w974-h648-no/DSC_4575.JPG

Absolutely beautiful.

scott023
10-01-2013, 09:43 AM
Looking for info on where to buy new decals. Here they are:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kyKjGZiBj6Q/Ukhx7jzvVXI/AAAAAAAABbo/IbD3RY7emU4/w868-h577-no/DSC_5813.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xGbpcjkHwCg/Ukhx-dGBj2I/AAAAAAAABb4/18FIgSq16aI/w868-h577-no/DSC_5815.JPG


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--VfJvOVJpHw/Ukhx9IxtvCI/AAAAAAAABbw/PTSgTBNH2Qw/w868-h577-no/DSC_5814.JPG

Mikeg205 is your man for these decals.

bochnak
10-01-2013, 09:52 AM
Everyone would always say call or talk to Jim@BAWS (Bay Area Water Sports) in Tampa and that is where I got my replacements. Now that Jim has passed I am not sure who to contact down there. I'm sure someone will chime in with some updated information.
Here is their web site http://www.bayareawatersports.com/

Thanks. I did a quick search on ebay and found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310615443704?item=310615443704&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

Why do mine look like they were 2 color or shadowbox?

mikeg205
10-01-2013, 10:09 AM
Thanks. I did a quick search on ebay and found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310615443704?item=310615443704&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

Why do mine look like they were 2 color or shadowbox?

Those are good too. :)

Double D
10-01-2013, 10:34 AM
Thanks. I did a quick search on ebay and found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310615443704?item=310615443704&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

Why do mine look like they were 2 color or shadowbox?

Because they are. When I got my replacement from BAWS it came in two pieces. The black background and the white lettering. Here is a picture of my replacement:

....

bochnak
10-01-2013, 12:19 PM
Because they are. When I got my replacement from BAWS it came in two pieces. The black background and the white lettering. Here is a picture of my replacement:

....


Nice! Do you have a side shot of the larger MC decal? And the back?

bochnak
10-01-2013, 01:01 PM
Doghouse shock - strut SPD-GSN1-5300-60

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gas-Spring-SPD-GSNI-5300-60-Strut-Prop-Rod-RV-Camper-/350301239199

Riser pathways..

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g377/mgorczak/DSCN3602.jpg (http://s1098.photobucket.com/user/mgorczak/media/DSCN3602.jpg.html)

etrailer? we look at the whole photo here - ;) - many folks have other interesting things to look at like other toys.. you had and etrailer box in one picture.

I'll post up a date next season...


Thanks!

What am I looking for in the risers? Is there an issue with rust or?

Double D
10-01-2013, 01:53 PM
Nice! Do you have a side shot of the larger MC decal? And the back?

As requested sir!

....

bochnak
10-02-2013, 06:27 AM
As requested sir!

....

Thanks! Looks good!

bochnak
10-02-2013, 06:33 AM
I buffed a few test areas. This is my first time using a circular polisher so I need to practice a little more. I only spent about 4min on what you see in the pics.

Step 1: 3M 05954 super duty compound with wool pad, circular/rotary from HF.
Spet 2: 3M 06064 Perfect-It machine polish on 5725 black foam pad.

Now, I believe the finesse it compound falls right in between the 2, but I wanted to try this first. I also have to hit some scratches with 1500 grit.

I have 2 3M stripe off wheels and will see how quickly the decals can be removed.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sGaMP0UTny8/Ukv0fbZF-DI/AAAAAAAABdk/wa7e9KQuNs0/w868-h577-no/DSC_5852.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-927DQDLK0WI/Ukv0fbMBtbI/AAAAAAAABdg/dbujZAqGBAM/w868-h577-no/DSC_5857.JPG

scott023
10-02-2013, 09:25 AM
That will turn out nicely. Huge difference already.

bochnak
10-02-2013, 09:33 AM
That will turn out nicely. Huge difference already.

Thanks! I'm going to town tonight, starting at 7pm. My co-worker has a PC 7424 and will swing by. I think the PC will shine in tight areas. I might buy a 3-4" spot pad setup. I have a 8" wool/foam pad and going to concentrate on the large stuff for now.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-02-2013, 10:14 AM
Definitely making an impact with your buffing efforts. While this is a bit of work, the immediate results are quite rewarding. A little heat from a hair dryer or heat gun will allow you to peel those stickers up to see where you need to get that shine to match.

bochnak
10-02-2013, 10:53 AM
Definitely making an impact with your buffing efforts. While this is a bit of work, the immediate results are quite rewarding. A little heat from a hair dryer or heat gun will allow you to peel those stickers up to see where you need to get that shine to match.


Good tip. I do see the shine under some of the decals. I have a heat gun, but I hope the stripe off wheel works good.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-02-2013, 11:10 AM
Good tip. I do see the shine under some of the decals. I have a heat gun, but I hope the stripe off wheel works good.

I haven't used a wheel before. Be cautious with the heat gun. If the decals get too hot they can get brittle.

bochnak
10-03-2013, 10:47 AM
I haven't used a wheel before. Be cautious with the heat gun. If the decals get too hot they can get brittle.

We only tried the stripe off wheel and worked mint! I think it will take 1hr to get them all off with this method.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-03-2013, 11:08 AM
We only tried the stripe off wheel and worked mint! I think it will take 1hr to get them all off with this method.

Can't argue with that.

bochnak
10-03-2013, 11:11 AM
Can't argue with that.

We only removed the transom decal. The gelcoat under the decal was raised compared to the rest of the surface. I wetsanded with 1000 then 1500 to level it. Buffed it out and looks pretty good.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-03-2013, 11:19 AM
We only removed the transom decal. The gelcoat under the decal was raised compared to the rest of the surface. I wetsanded with 1000 then 1500 to level it. Buffed it out and looks pretty good.

Sounds like you have things pretty much under control.

bochnak
10-03-2013, 11:23 AM
Sounds like you have things pretty much under control.

I've been doing some reading...LOL. This is my first time ever buffing/sanding. We'll see how it turns out!

thatsmrmastercraft
10-03-2013, 12:51 PM
I've been doing some reading...LOL. This is my first time ever buffing/sanding. We'll see how it turns out!

I had never buffed anything before I got my boat either. Amazing what a guy can learn here. This site is a fantastic resource. If there isn't already a great write-up on the subject you are interested in, there are a dozen guys who just did it and have tons of advice.

bochnak
10-04-2013, 09:03 AM
Stripped the remaining decals off. It took about an hour with the 3M stripe off wheel.

I installed new wheel cylinders last night. They sent me the wrong master.

Co-worker gave me some durablocks, 600, 1000, 1500 as I need to work on a few areas.

Looks like rain in the forecast for this weekend. Also, I'll be installing a new radiator and tranny cooler in the SUV this weekend.

Double D
10-04-2013, 09:07 AM
Stripped the remaining decals off. It took about an hour with the 3M stripe off wheel.

I installed new wheel cylinders last night. They sent me the wrong master.

Co-worker gave me some durablocks, 600, 1000, 1500 as I need to work on a few areas.

Looks like rain in the forecast for this weekend. Also, I'll be installing a new radiator and tranny cooler in the SUV this weekend.

Keep the updated PICTURES coming too!! ;)

bochnak
10-04-2013, 09:34 AM
Keep the updated PICTURES coming too!! ;)

I'll post some this weekend. Everything is half *** right now. It should all come together next week.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-04-2013, 09:51 AM
I'll post some this weekend. Everything is half *** right now. It should all come together next week.

Seeing the progress keeps us interested. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

scott023
10-04-2013, 10:00 AM
Seeing the progress keeps us interested. :popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

You've got that right.

bochnak
10-07-2013, 09:04 AM
Here are some pics. Nothing is 100% done. Some areas are untouched, while others have been cut & polished.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GLAYPMKdF0c/UlKYPp2WvZI/AAAAAAAABe4/DneZU4eXEjA/w973-h647-no/DSC_5955.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dRZ64PGjWVs/UlKYdYneM1I/AAAAAAAABfs/Y9BeTZJy-Bo/w973-h647-no/DSC_5961.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hOdhN8Y6Tuk/UlKYidfWiLI/AAAAAAAABgA/srggPTkYIbw/w973-h647-no/DSC_5963.JPG


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FA4mHVIA5EM/UlKYVUx0ZTI/AAAAAAAABfU/mzmnpXCyAfU/w973-h647-no/DSC_5956.JPG

bochnak
10-07-2013, 09:08 AM
Spent the weekend working on our 03' MDX. New radiator, PS & trans cooler. I also had to change out a faulty AT temp sensor. The freaking thing broke inside the trans and took me 2.5hrs to figure out on how to pry it out. I was in the garage until 2:30am on Fri.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GZViIphyCcc/UlKYIIdkxQI/AAAAAAAABec/f75QgnxtvNk/w973-h647-no/DSC_5950.JPG


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3EwzDyf4zXw/UlKYI7tdAtI/AAAAAAAABek/obLydtNQ3ls/w973-h647-no/DSC_5952.JPG

bochnak
10-08-2013, 01:51 PM
Congrats on the new boat and welcome to TT. Not sure about wakesurfing behind that thing but you picked up a great boat! I am a bit bias since I have owned one since 2001. Let me know if you have any questions and I will try to help.

A quick google & youtube search shows people wakesurfing behind this boat. What are your thoughts?

If you didn't tell us the motor was changed I would have never known. Everything looks similar to my Indmar 350.


Looks like long block only was changed. I need to get the Jasper PN and find out more info on it.

Double D
10-08-2013, 02:03 PM
A quick google & youtube search shows people wakesurfing behind this boat. What are your thoughts?

I actually don't have any... LOL. You could load the boat with ballast and take out 7 friends and see what happens. I'm sure someone else has done it.

mikeg205
10-08-2013, 02:11 PM
A quick google & youtube search shows people wakesurfing behind this boat. What are your thoughts?



Looks like long block only was changed. I need to get the Jasper PN and find out more info on it.

Wakesurf - it can be done... wakeboarding to.. one think I notice on my 95 205 is the wake gets washed our to quick and you really have to bury a corner to get any surf wake... I don't recommend doing that by the way...on the PS DD.

bochnak
10-08-2013, 02:49 PM
I actually don't have any... LOL. You could load the boat with ballast and take out 7 friends and see what happens. I'm sure someone else has done it.

Looks like fun. Maybe I'll try it one day.

Wakesurf - it can be done... wakeboarding to.. one think I notice on my 95 205 is the wake gets washed our to quick and you really have to bury a corner to get any surf wake... I don't recommend doing that by the way...on the PS DD.

I will be primarily wakeboarding. I heard the PS throws a respectable wake loaded.

mikeg205
10-08-2013, 10:47 PM
I have the same hull, not a bad wake - but respectable is a long shot for wake board.. wake is butter smooth for slalom - ok for recreational wake boarding..... V-Drive - or 96 and up hull make a better wake board wake... IMO

CC2MC
10-08-2013, 11:36 PM
Looks like fun. Maybe I'll try it one day.



I will be primarily wakeboarding. I heard the PS throws a respectable wake loaded.

The wakeboarding wake is decent when loaded. I went from a Sea Doo Speedster to the PS 205, so the wake on the MC seemed huge compared to the Sea Doo. Now I have a 210 VRS and the unloaded wake is about the size of the loaded wake on the 205. I tried loading the back corner up for surfing on the 205 and as mentioned, it can be done, but the pocket is very small. Not worth the effort IMO. If you do plan on doing that much wakeboarding, then you may want to consider adding a tower, especially if you want to have others riding in the back seat. It will get the wakeboards off the floor as well. You have done a good job on the wet sand and buff.

cbryan70
10-08-2013, 11:53 PM
What kind of audio are you adding to this thing? Let me know how it sounds. Take pictures of taking of the combing pads....I need to drill two holes and cut vinyl my boat is a radio delete from the factory

bochnak
10-09-2013, 09:57 AM
I have the same hull, not a bad wake - but respectable is a long shot for wake board.. wake is butter smooth for slalom - ok for recreational wake boarding..... V-Drive - or 96 and up hull make a better wake board wake... IMO

I guess you can say I'm a rec wakeboarder. If I can get 3-4' of air behind this thing that would be great. I can spin 3's however having trouble passing the handle. I've been snowboarding since 95' and am used to "no rope."

Sadly, v-drives were out of budget.

bochnak
10-09-2013, 09:58 AM
The wakeboarding wake is decent when loaded. I went from a Sea Doo Speedster to the PS 205, so the wake on the MC seemed huge compared to the Sea Doo. Now I have a 210 VRS and the unloaded wake is about the size of the loaded wake on the 205. I tried loading the back corner up for surfing on the 205 and as mentioned, it can be done, but the pocket is very small. Not worth the effort IMO. If you do plan on doing that much wakeboarding, then you may want to consider adding a tower, especially if you want to have others riding in the back seat. It will get the wakeboards off the floor as well. You have done a good job on the wet sand and buff.

Thanks. I'll probably start off next season with a fly high pole and see how that goes. The lake is small so dropping stuff off at dock will be no problem.

bochnak
10-09-2013, 10:02 AM
What kind of audio are you adding to this thing? Let me know how it sounds. Take pictures of taking of the combing pads....I need to drill two holes and cut vinyl my boat is a radio delete from the factory

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001584Q9M/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_at_ws_us?ie=UTF8

Putting this unit in tomorrow just to get some tunes going. There will be up to 5 kids under age 6 on board, and they are not exactly quiet...LOL.

Noise carries like crazy on this lake so we don't plan on playing loud music.

We bought some $60 speakers just in case the speakers that came with boat don't work. We may return if they turn out to sound OK.

cbryan70
10-09-2013, 10:07 AM
Wake should be fine for you. I have seen some crazy things thrown behind my old 78 skier. 720's, front flips, back flips you name it. All about form

bochnak
10-09-2013, 10:11 AM
Wake should be fine for you. I have seen some crazy things thrown behind my old 78 skier. 720's, front flips, back flips you name it. All about form

I wish I could do all that! I'm sure I will have more than enough fun behind this thing. Looking to get into the water this weekend! Brrrrrr.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-09-2013, 10:18 AM
Thanks. I'll probably start off next season with a fly high pole and see how that goes. The lake is small so dropping stuff off at dock will be no problem.

You will be happy with the extended pylon. I have a Barefoot International SS Fly High for my boat and love it. Simple to install and remove, and they work great. I also normally operate from a dock so boat clutter is seldom an issue. Look early in spring when they seem to be the most plentiful if you are shopping the used market.

mikeg205
10-09-2013, 10:36 AM
Expecting to see this sweet ride on the river at our next Illinois River Meetup... Hit me up for any decals you might need.

bochnak
10-09-2013, 10:54 AM
You will be happy with the extended pylon. I have a Barefoot International SS Fly High for my boat and love it. Simple to install and remove, and they work great. I also normally operate from a dock so boat clutter is seldom an issue. Look early in spring when they seem to be the most plentiful if you are shopping the used market.

Good to hear! I'm in the market for a used one if possible. I think a 2pc would be the way to go?

cbryan70
10-09-2013, 11:21 AM
two peice is nice...you can store it easier

bochnak
10-09-2013, 11:29 AM
two peice is nice...you can store it easier

That is what I'm thinking.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-09-2013, 11:55 AM
Mine is a two piece but I have no storage in my '77 so I never take it apart.

bochnak
10-09-2013, 01:47 PM
Expecting to see this sweet ride on the river at our next Illinois River Meetup... Hit me up for any decals you might need.

What city/area is this meetup in?

bochnak
10-09-2013, 01:53 PM
Brian/Mike,

Since you guys are somewhat local to me, can you recommend a local upholstery shop that may be able to do observer seat skin? Know how much I'd expect to pay?

I'm willing to ship if there is no one local.

mikeg205
10-09-2013, 02:13 PM
Traxxx's shop did a real nice job.

cbryan70
10-09-2013, 02:47 PM
Might give these guys a call
http://www.yellowpages.com/elgin-il/mip/top-coverage-ltd-4459354

Top Coverage in elgin. They do ALOT of work for car dealerships...ive heard good things.

bochnak
10-15-2013, 12:00 PM
Here are some more pics. It is 90% buffed. We took it up to the lakehouse this past weekend and put 2hrs on it. Went wakeboarding 2 days in a row. The shoreline is under construction so we used the neighbors lift. Turns out he owns the same boat except a 95.

My son Jack and I:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x2IrTtSummA/Ul1k3Jtm1FI/AAAAAAAABiM/guiyxDfDNVk/w1035-h688-no/DSC_5859.JPG


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0kFhx7HFKgM/Ul1k8X5SYvI/AAAAAAAABh8/TQ0FUa1dlAk/w1035-h688-no/DSC_5965.JPG


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZovS1EPt9M4/Ul1k__A5HVI/AAAAAAAABhA/6j_LnQY5WpQ/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6002.JPG


Need more buffing on transom:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vueJ7xS087Y/Ul1lB1lpdTI/AAAAAAAABhI/uxmAlGazgHs/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6003.JPG


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-41Oo70M-qf0/Ul1lEbPOgcI/AAAAAAAABhQ/eTr_ySkix3k/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6004.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h1fhB-t5XEo/Ul1lGaxgP2I/AAAAAAAABhY/cY6wXPZKmi8/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6005.JPG


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l42WztOW6tc/Ul1lJDx21DI/AAAAAAAABho/vpevidsJN9k/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6009.JPG


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k6GJzj5C6V8/Ul1lLKP2BfI/AAAAAAAABhw/ddamGRbVBAs/w1035-h688-no/DSC_6048.JPG

thatsmrmastercraft
10-15-2013, 12:16 PM
Looking great. Really got that shine working.

bochnak
10-15-2013, 12:18 PM
Looking great. Really got that shine working.

Thanks!

thatsmrmastercraft
10-15-2013, 12:24 PM
Thanks!

Great pic of you and your son working together.

bochnak
10-15-2013, 12:26 PM
Great pic of you and your son working together.

Ha! He managed to get brake dust and wheel bearing grease all over his face!

cbryan70
10-15-2013, 12:30 PM
were you able to get the brakes working?

thatsmrmastercraft
10-15-2013, 12:35 PM
Ha! He managed to get brake dust and wheel bearing grease all over his face!

That makes it look like he is accomplishing something.:rolleyes:

bochnak
10-15-2013, 12:38 PM
were you able to get the brakes working?

Almost. I replaced the wheel cylinders, master, and snaked a new main line (old was rusted through). My wife and I bled the brakes however did not finish. It was Friday 3pm and I said screw it, let's just head up to the lake. My SUV towed it no problem. I need a helper to bleed the brakes since vacuum bleeding and pressure bleeding wasn't working so well.

Here are the parts I bought:

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/trailer-wheel-cylinder-for-drum-brake-10-12-brake-assemblies/

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/replacement-aluminum-wheel-cylinder-for-hydraulic-drum-brakes/

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/UFP-Master-Cylinder-for-Drum-Brake-Actuators-35154/

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/AGS1/PAC325/N0833.oap?ck=Search_25%27+brake+line_N0833_-1_3413&keyword=25%27+brake+line&pt=N0833&ppt=C0066

The flare tool that I rented from autozone is a joke. Nearly impossible to get a good flare. I flared a bunch of lines for my chevelle with the mastercool hydraulic tool, which is super nice.

bochnak
10-15-2013, 12:45 PM
There is an issue that we found over the weekend: hard steering to left under power/plane. This wasn't apparent during water test since we test drove in a narrow canal. PO replaced the steering cable. Lake rules state we have to run CCW, so it is constantly turning left. You need two hands to turn left under power.

It will be a week or 2 before I head up there to winterize, but plan on disconnecting the steering cable to see if the rudder moves freely. My neighbor who owns a 95 PS205 also commented that steering is tighter than his, so at least I have that to go by.

Rockman
10-15-2013, 12:56 PM
What did you use to get the gelcoat looking like that?

We used the 3m products to remove the oxidation on our 190 but were not able to pull the true shine back out of the gelcoat...

Maybe I need to back track thru this thread a bit...


Boat looks great!

cbryan70
10-15-2013, 01:15 PM
What did you use to get the gelcoat looking like that?

We used the 3m products to remove the oxidation on our 190 but were not able to pull the true shine back out of the gelcoat...

Maybe I need to back track thru this thread a bit...


Boat looks great!
Did you use Finesse? Did you use the write applicator?

Rockman
10-15-2013, 01:22 PM
Did you use Finesse? Did you use the write applicator?

Yep...bought the finesse, polishing glaze and wax...and 3 different application pads as well. :confused:

The oxidation came off fairly easy...the glaze went on smooth and looked good at first then almost disappeared when we put the wax on...

I know for a fact the wax I used was not really for marine purposes but more for automotive purposes...totally did not last.

We will be re-doing the process with better products before winter...

bochnak
10-15-2013, 01:56 PM
What did you use to get the gelcoat looking like that?

We used the 3m products to remove the oxidation on our 190 but were not able to pull the true shine back out of the gelcoat...

Maybe I need to back track thru this thread a bit...


Boat looks great!

Thanks.

I used a HF rotary with 8" pads.
1st pass - 3M 05954 super duty rubbing compound with wool pad
2nd pass - 3M 06064 perfect-it polish with 3M 5725 black foam pad.

Honestly, it shines like crazy, however there are swirl and sanding marks that I may or may not address. You can only see it when you are a foot or 2 away. I only buffed the vertical surfaces, rub rail and down. It doesn't help that it is black!

I have about 9hrs into buffing, I don't want to do it anymore. This was my very first attempt at rotary buffing.

My friend was over with his PC 7424 and some fine cut glaze and it looked even better. Here is a before and after (we only tested a small section):

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kyKjGZiBj6Q/Ukhx7jzvVXI/AAAAAAAABbo/IbD3RY7emU4/w1035-h688-no/DSC_5813.JPG


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FA4mHVIA5EM/UlKYVUx0ZTI/AAAAAAAABfU/mzmnpXCyAfU/w1035-h688-no/DSC_5956.JPG

bochnak
10-15-2013, 02:01 PM
Already placed an order from them. I did receive the catalog. Thanks for the info.


Thermostat

The thermostat housing was leaking, so I took it all apart and found no gasket. Also, the temp gauge hovered around 130 during water test. I took the thermostat out and dunked it in hot water. I noticed that is started to open/close at the 120 mark. I ordered a new 142 and gasket. Same hot water test with new t-stat shows open/close as advertised. So hopefully the temp will go to normal now.

Temp gauge still reads 120/130. I will test the sender and gauge from the info I found here:

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/document.do?docId=842

I have a 142 t-stat in it. What is the normal operating temp you guys are seeing?

mikeg205
10-15-2013, 03:52 PM
I run the 142 t-stat and my temp is right on the 140 line on the analog guage.

Double D
10-15-2013, 03:55 PM
My temp stays low too, around 120 to 140.

Have you seen the thread on here about BAWS still doing decal sets? Pretty soon you can brand her back up. Looks great!!

bochnak
10-15-2013, 03:57 PM
I run the 142 t-stat and my temp is right on the 140 line on the analog guage.


Good to know. I'll ohm things out.

bochnak
10-15-2013, 04:26 PM
My temp stays low too, around 120 to 140.

Have you seen the thread on here about BAWS still doing decal sets? Pretty soon you can brand her back up. Looks great!!

Send me the link. I also contacted Mike G. I have to go get the reg numbers first.

bochnak
10-16-2013, 09:24 AM
IIRC, my pylon is 2.5", correct? I'm asking since a skylon for 3" pylons is 4 sale locally. I have access to a machine shop so I can make a spacer. Thoughts?

Double D
10-16-2013, 09:47 AM
Send me the link. I also contacted Mike G. I have to go get the reg numbers first.

Here you go...

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=57828

bochnak
10-18-2013, 07:03 AM
Scored a Skylon locally for $80 8p

Picked it up during my lunch break. It was advertised for 3" pylons, however measured ID at 2.6", so all I need to pick up is some of that mesh protector sleeving.



https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pJAQG1iU3pc/UmEQYOlQjPI/AAAAAAAABio/RXK0rANy73w/w868-h577-no/DSC_6294.JPG

mikeg205
10-18-2013, 09:01 AM
I have the same skylon sells the sleeves.. works great...

bochnak
10-18-2013, 09:23 AM
I have the same skylon sells the sleeves.. works great...

I noticed they sell sleeves. I think I'll order from McMaster for .73/ft:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-polyethylene-sleeves/=ozm9or


Does this pole slide all the way to boat floor? I don't see how my model is adjustable 6-7'???

How tall is your pole installed off floor?

mikeg205
10-18-2013, 10:13 AM
I noticed they sell sleeves. I think I'll order from McMaster for .73/ft:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-polyethylene-sleeves/=ozm9or


Does this pole slide all the way to boat floor? I don't see how my model is adjustable 6-7'???

How tall is your pole installed off floor?

It does not make it to the floor - there is a cross member near the top of the bottom portion of the pole.

It sits about 2 inches off floor. Not sure how to adjust like they say.

nice find at mcmaster - I paid $20 for mine from Skylon - what did mcmaster charge you for frieght? I have the red one installed.

bochnak
10-18-2013, 10:22 AM
It does not make it to the floor - there is a cross member near the top of the bottom portion of the pole.

It sits about 2 inches off floor. Not sure how to adjust like they say.

nice find at mcmaster - I paid $20 for mine from Skylon - what did mcmaster charge you for frieght? I have the red one installed.

Thanks. I see how this works now. The adjustment is made by sliding pole up and inserting a pin which rest on top of pylon. I will order a quick release pin from mcmaster or head to ACE.

I actually found mesh sleeving over in our machine shop at work. We use it to protect machined round parts. I order stuff from mcmaster all the time for work, so I was going to add it to an order for R&D purposes :D

McMaster is located in Elmhurst, IL, you can always go pick up. I never ordered from them outside of work so I don't know what they charge for shipping.

mikeg205
10-18-2013, 10:32 AM
Thanks. I see how this works now. The adjustment is made by sliding pole up and inserting a pin which rest on top of pylon. I will order a quick release pin from mcmaster or head to ACE.

I actually found mesh sleeving over in our machine shop at work. We use it to protect machined round parts. I order stuff from mcmaster all the time for work, so I was going to add it to an order for R&D purposes :D

McMaster is located in Elmhurst, IL, you can always go pick up. I never ordered from them outside of work so I don't know what they charge for shipping.

i could always pick up too thanks... my office in rolling meadows - I don't run my skylon at the higher position..

bochnak
10-18-2013, 10:52 AM
my office in rolling meadows

Ha....right down the street from where I live. I'm at Golf & 83.

mikeg205
10-18-2013, 10:53 AM
Ha....right down the street from where I live. I'm at Golf & 83.

We could be a bad influence on each other - sneakin' out to go skiin' boarding and all ;) -

bochnak
10-18-2013, 10:59 AM
We could be a bad influence on each other - sneakin' out to go skiin' boarding and all ;) -

Sounds good to me. This boat will be in the water near Alpine Valley, 75mi north of your office. I see myself leaving work early every Fri...LOL.

Where do you dump yours in?

bochnak
10-29-2013, 09:48 AM
I winterized the boat 2 weeks ago. Changed the oil with VR1 20w50 and WIX 51060 oil filter.

I was tempted to start another oil thread 8p

There won't be to many updates as I might be able to work on it once a month if that.