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jkski
09-25-2013, 06:53 AM
With the new lawn going in this weekend I am starting to look around for a good deal on a nice used 60" zero turn rider or possibly an end of the season closeout deal. The biggest question I have when looking at a used unit is, how many hours is the magic number to remain under?
I know that at some point the pumps need to be overhauled and that may have to do more with the way it is used than anything but it there a general rule of thumb when looking at these used?

I came across a nice 60" Toro (now together with Exmark) that had the triple bagger system on it for $4900 but it also had 1700 hours on it. It looked to be in great shape but the hours are the big question.

Any advice is appreciated.

j.robinson389
09-25-2013, 07:05 AM
You're right it's all about how it was used and maintained. But in my opinion, a good liquid cooled engine should go 3,000 hrs without any major problems if well maintained, but it seems like other things like pumps and bushings/pulleys tend to start having problems in the 2,000 hr range. I am a fan of the newer BobCat mowers, for the price I think they are hard to beat.

Of course: Scag, Exmark, Ferris, etc... make great mowers too; but you're gonna pay for 'em.

jkski
09-25-2013, 07:29 AM
Thanks, hadn't really considered Bobcat as for some reason I thought they were getting out of the mower business. Will have to take a look. Are they priced considerably less.

I will be regularly mowing about 4 acres of lawn and then have an additional 3 acres of former pasture that I want to keep mowed down and nice (not the smoothest area due to horse traffic but I am working on rolling it smoother).

Foster20
09-25-2013, 08:17 AM
I would suggest looking into Bad Boy mowers. Our air cooled machines are rated for 2500 hours and we make both residential and commercial mowers. The commercial mowers are rated above that. Of course I am partial because my brother started this company in his garage and I have worked for him since 2006. Now Bad Boy mowers is the largest manufacturer of 60" and above mowers in the country. I have moved over to the UTV division of Bad Boy, now this side is called Intimidator, so I am not up on all of the new innovations of the mowers. I can tell you that they are built like a tank and the patented swing away design makes servicing and cleaning unbelievably easy. It is worth checking out.
We do have demo mowers that are for sell in the factory here (Batesville, AR), but I am not sure that we could sell them if you have a dealer in your area, at least I know that is true for selling new mowers in a dealers territory. PM me if you would like.
www.badboymowers.com
www.intimidatorutv.com
Intimidator is a new UTV that has just hit the market. Our website is about to get a make over so excuse the lack of good info on there.

j.robinson389
09-25-2013, 09:00 AM
Thanks, hadn't really considered Bobcat as for some reason I thought they were getting out of the mower business. Will have to take a look. Are they priced considerably less.

I will be regularly mowing about 4 acres of lawn and then have an additional 3 acres of former pasture that I want to keep mowed down and nice (not the smoothest area due to horse traffic but I am working on rolling it smoother).


That is a good bit of land to mow regularly. I would take a good look at front mount mowers as well, they can be more comfortable for long periods and 72" decks are common on them.

For example:
http://www.kubota.com/assets/product/Fseries/F-Series-Mowing-Baseball.jpg

jkski
09-25-2013, 09:11 AM
I thought about the front mounts and have used them but they are not as easily manueverable around trees, etc. About 2 acres of the mowing will be done at my sister-in-laws home and she has a lot of object to go around and a 72 inch deck would be too big for her yard. I can always mow my former pasture areas with the big tractor but I would like to move away from that as I smooth the area out more and more.

zsqure
09-26-2013, 07:38 AM
I guess I am partial to Grasshopper mowers, my grandfather still mows with his 1986 1210 grasshopper and has only needed to patch the deck in a couple spots, no idea how many hours on it there was no hour meter on that model at that time. It has been in our family since new. I run a 1995 Grasshopper 720K with 2800 hours on it, I think I have put 1000 hrs on it since owning it in 2003. I paid $2700 for it then and it has been a good mower. Both models are front mount, I have a dozer blade for the 720K.

johnlanguab
09-26-2013, 08:01 AM
I would suggest looking into Bad Boy mowers. Our air cooled machines are rated for 2500 hours and we make both residential and commercial mowers. The commercial mowers are rated above that. Of course I am partial because my brother started this company in his garage and I have worked for him since 2006. Now Bad Boy mowers is the largest manufacturer of 60" and above mowers in the country. I have moved over to the UTV division of Bad Boy, now this side is called Intimidator, so I am not up on all of the new innovations of the mowers. I can tell you that they are built like a tank and the patented swing away design makes servicing and cleaning unbelievably easy. It is worth checking out.
We do have demo mowers that are for sell in the factory here (Batesville, AR), but I am not sure that we could sell them if you have a dealer in your area, at least I know that is true for selling new mowers in a dealers territory. PM me if you would like.
www.badboymowers.com
www.intimidatorutv.com
Intimidator is a new UTV that has just hit the market. Our website is about to get a make over so excuse the lack of good info on there.


+1 for Bad Boy, great for the price.

zsqure
09-26-2013, 08:35 AM
We also have a couple Steiner 4wd articulated mowers (1 gas, 1 diesel). They are unbelievable for pulling and pushing power. Wet grass and slopes can be a problem with traction on a ZT mower. These two little guys eat it up. When compared to a ZT, they are like mowing with a school bus. But they go anywhere and do anything.

hondaprlud
09-26-2013, 08:42 AM
My uncles stepson owns Mow and Snow on Magadore rd in Kent. He may be able to help with a trade in or end of year clearance. Last time I was there they had Exmark and Big dog. ask for Sean tell him Emmett sent you. 330-676-9300. It's a small shop he opened 2 yrs ago.

zsqure
09-26-2013, 05:36 PM
My uncles stepson owns Mow and Snow on Magadore rd in Kent. He may be able to help with a trade in or end of year clearance. Last time I was there they had Exmark and Big dog. ask for Sean tell him Emmett sent you. 330-676-9300. It's a small shop he opened 2 yrs ago.

Hey, Hondaprlud I work just down the street from that place.:D

liledgy
09-26-2013, 08:49 PM
I've had a wright stander for about 5 years. It's a 2000 model, bought it with over 2000 hours. It had a newer 23hp Kawasaki motor on it when I bought it.
This machine has been unbelievable, built like a tank is an understatement . Very few moving parts, very easy to see over the deck. Extremely stable on hills. So much more than what I thought it would be, and I knew it was highly regarded because most landscapers use them in the Chicago area. When toro. Great Dane and ex mark copy it, it can't be bad! It's the original stander.

zsqure
09-27-2013, 05:30 PM
Uh,....if you have a stand up zero turn where do you put the beers? 4 acres would drain a 6 packer pretty quickly.:D

ctjahn
09-27-2013, 05:52 PM
I am new to zero turn mowers.... PO had a 60 Dixie. Mine is a 36" Dixon...


But my yard is pretty steep, and if I loose traction or turn it wrong it just takes off on me....Completely out of control. Almost bailed off of it once....

Common?

2RLAKE
09-28-2013, 06:59 AM
Thanks, hadn't really considered Bobcat as for some reason I thought they were getting out of the mower business. Will have to take a look. Are they priced considerably less.

I will be regularly mowing about 4 acres of lawn and then have an additional 3 acres of former pasture that I want to keep mowed down and nice (not the smoothest area due to horse traffic but I am working on rolling it smoother).

I have a ten year old bobcat and it runs like a champ ... Can even cut a small section of aluminum fencing if you let my wife drive it!

jkski
09-29-2013, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the advice guys, I will begin my search this week and see where it takes me.
Hondaprlud, thanks for the info on the place, I know that area well having grown up and live in Brimfield for roughly 18 years.

I saw a Ferris with the Cat diesel yesterday and fell in love, just not with the price tag.....upwards of $15k+! Outta my range but one can always dream!

pmkkdx
09-30-2013, 09:48 AM
I don't have any experience with ZT, but I have worked the living snot out of various sizes (18-80hp) of Kubota tractors & UTVs for the past 20+ years without any sizable issues other than regular maintenance. I would guess their ZT diesels are of equal reliability but not cheap.

jkski
11-11-2013, 09:06 AM
Well, I found a deal that was too good to pass up and made the purchase. I picked-up a 2007 Exmark zero turn with the 60" deck and ultra-vac bagging system. We used it a couple of times over the weekend to pick up leaves and it does great but I will need to put new tires on it for spring. Any advice on the regular turf tires vs. something a bit more aggressive like the bar tires? I don't want to rip apart my lawn but I do have some decent hills we are mowing and I want to make sure I am not sliding down them sideways!!!

Josh approves of the mower and took his place upon it the night I brought it home!

Double D
11-11-2013, 09:30 AM
Well, I found a deal that was too good to pass up and made the purchase. I picked-up a 2007 Exmark zero turn with the 60" deck and ultra-vac bagging system. We used it a couple of times over the weekend to pick up leaves and it does great but I will need to put new tires on it for spring. Any advice on the regular turf tires vs. something a bit more aggressive like the bar tires? I don't want to rip apart my lawn but I do have some decent hills we are mowing and I want to make sure I am not sliding down them sideways!!!

Josh approves of the mower and took his place upon it the night I brought it home!

Damn, you don't screw around!! :D:D Good for you and Josh!!!

jkski
11-11-2013, 09:45 AM
Yeah, I try to make sure I buy with the outgoing season to get the best deals! Buy mowers and boats going into the winter!!! It was just too good of a deal to pass up but now I really need to build that pole building to store all of the stuff.