View Full Version : Line Length / Speed - Your Favorite?

09-07-2004, 12:06 PM
I usually ski at 32 MPH at 22 off. What does everyone else like? There's a little bump at 22 off, but 15 is a hair long.

Obviously some experimentation is needed, but what do you guys think about 28 off?

east tx skier
09-07-2004, 12:09 PM
Free skiing, 32 mph at 15off. Need to drop it to 30 though.
Course, as slow as she'll go; 15 off.

09-07-2004, 12:11 PM
I free ski at 15 off and 32 to 34, but since I been on the course, I've gone to full rope and 28 mph. 3 balls is my best, but I'm getting real close to getting 4.

09-07-2004, 12:14 PM
Sorry, should have clarified my numbers a bit :) . Open water: 22 off @ 32 mph. Course: 15 off @ 30 mph.

09-07-2004, 01:15 PM
For me free ski at 32 at 15 off.

Start the course at 28 at 15 off. Best I ever did was 6 balls @32/15 off.

09-07-2004, 01:29 PM
6 @ 30mph consistantly best 3 @ 32mph, I tell you the balls swim away when they see me coming.

09-07-2004, 01:33 PM
Novice here no course experience, full rope length at 30-32, any shorter or faster and I feel a yard sale happening! :o

09-07-2004, 01:44 PM
Free ski at 22 off @ 35-36 mph.

tall_ andy
09-07-2004, 01:44 PM
Free skiing is 15 off @ 32. Still waiting to get the boat to the lake with the course. I'm sure it'll be full length @20 and still only get 2 or three though LOL

09-07-2004, 01:56 PM
Sking the course is a blast!! And I suck, I bet the guys and gals who can really ski do have a blast! Heck I can get 3 balls 95% of the time @ 0 off and 28 mph. My wife got 2 balls @ 0 off and 23mph on two skies??

09-07-2004, 02:04 PM
Through the course 28 off at 32 mph.and open water 35 off at 34 mph..Any length is good behind a mastercraft,but when i'm behind my brother's Nautique forget it!

John B
09-07-2004, 02:11 PM
As of last Tuesday,22 off 34 mph in a course.
In open water anywhere from 15 to 43 off, 30 to 34 mph. :eek3:
I hope to be at 28 off 34 mph in the course by the end of the week. :D

09-07-2004, 02:11 PM
I free ski at 35 [email protected] 34 mph. I'm skiing behind my trusty 1083, so there is no wake, no bump - just speed.
I have not skied a course in quite awhile, but my best was 3 ball @22 off/34 mph.

I like short line cause it's fast!

09-07-2004, 02:12 PM
I meant to type 1983, not 1083. Fat fingers.

09-07-2004, 02:17 PM
Nice shot, John. I don't mind my 22 off, but I guess I've heard people complain about a "bump". At 32 MPH, are there any lengths more preferable then others? I agree, the wake is butter behind the MC!

09-07-2004, 02:19 PM
Welcome aboard EricB, we always like to see the older boats still in use!

John B
09-07-2004, 02:30 PM
22 off is the worst to ski behind a MasterCraft.At 32 mph the BUMP is big it is not as bad at 34 mph.
From 28 off and 32 off the wake is better.
At 35,38,39.5,41 and 43 off there is no wake.
41 and 43 off are a kick in the arss to ski,give it a try some time. :D

09-07-2004, 02:44 PM
I have only slalomed about 7 times now, non of which have been in the course. I think I am going to start out at 39.5off @ 34 MPH just to get my a$$ kicked real good. That should make 0' off @ 25MPH seem like a walk in the park. :D

John B
09-07-2004, 02:50 PM
You might want to start out a little slower.
It could kick you hard 34 mph. :D

09-07-2004, 02:50 PM
John B,

Just for the fun of it, I have tried the really short lines at 34 or 36 mph a time or 2.

Once I made the gate but didnt make iit to the first turn, wasnt even close.

Makes you appreciate how good the Big Dogs really are!

09-07-2004, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I'm just kidding... I don't need the added difficulty! :eek:
I did try wakeboarding at about 35-40MPH. What a rush that was. Just went straight though, didn't try to cross the wake.

Robert Averyt
09-07-2004, 02:56 PM
John B

We tried 41 off last wednesday for the first time. You are right it really is fun. We had a contest to see who could get the gate and closest to 1 ball. I got within about 2 feet. I can not imagine getting around 1 ball and ever even having a shot at two. After a couple of sets of beating my self up at -28 it was a fun change.
We had Lucky Lowe and Chris Parrish at our lake a couple of years ago for a clinic. Chris holds our lake record @ [email protected] He makes it look so easy. Lucky was skiing and slapping the bouys with one hand @-35.

I only dream of ever running -35.

John B
09-07-2004, 02:59 PM
have not done that in a course.
I go under the pretence you have to earn the right.
Now open water that is deferent. :D

09-07-2004, 02:59 PM
35 off Heck, I dream of 15 off! I still don't ski as hard as I should in the course, I only busted my a$$ once! If your not falling, your not trying!

John B
09-07-2004, 03:03 PM
You got the right.This morning two sets 6 falls :(

09-07-2004, 03:07 PM
15 off 32mph warm up passes, then 15 off 34 mph, couple of passes then 3 @ 22 off a few days ago. Haven't had much TOTW this year, got 2 @ 28 off last year.

Robert Averyt
09-07-2004, 03:11 PM

After a while I found that I quite taking really bad falls. What happens now is I just loose the handle. I think I have developed a linkage from between my feet to my hands. When the angle of my feet gets to the point that I am about to go over the front of my ski my hands automatically let go of the handle. Must be some kind of survival instinct.

I strongly reccomend the thick neoprene life jackets for those just learning to ski the slalom course. They will sure help save your rib cage when you slam into the wake sideways.

09-07-2004, 03:30 PM
Tim keeps hurting his ribs, but I just haven't taken any falls. I can get around ball 3 and across the wake going to 4, I miss ball 4 by a few feet. I just can't get myself to cut loose and get after it? :confused: And sometimes I can miss ball 4 and make it back to ball 5, but I just turn around and miss ball 6. Talk about a bad side. Going from left to right I'm not bad, but right to left is what is killing me. I will just make it around ball 2, but I can get ball 3 easy. :confused: I need some help on my offside cutting! I'm generally early to ball 3 and will be finishing my cut at the ball. Maybe you guys should look in my gallary, the offside pic, and try and help me!

09-07-2004, 03:38 PM
here is the pic. HELP ME!

John B
09-07-2004, 03:46 PM
Wong thread, can you get a bigger picture?
All I can say is it will come with time.
I was talking to one of the big dogs on my little lake.
He told me for adults that you should stay at 15 off and slow the boat speed . :D

Robert Averyt
09-07-2004, 03:48 PM

I am not qualified for this but it looks like you need to bend your knees and get the ski out in front a little more and your shoulders back. All that from a 1" square pic. This is all worth what you are paying for it.

09-07-2004, 03:49 PM
I'll see if Tim has a bigger pic of me on that side!

09-07-2004, 04:21 PM
Brad hips forward, back leaned back. Take your rear knee and press it into the back of your front knee. This will help push your hips forward. Then concentrate on leaning back from the waist. However, becareful this will cause you to want to ride your back foot.

22-28 off 34 MPH and I'm a free skier on a river.

09-07-2004, 04:33 PM
And I thought I looked just like Mapple from the bank? :(

east tx skier
09-07-2004, 04:42 PM
Brad, also don't forget to keep your shoulders square to the boat during your pull across the wake, and keep the handle in close to your hips.

09-07-2004, 04:46 PM
No course around my lake so I free ski at 28' off at 35.


09-07-2004, 04:49 PM
Doug, dude, do you know how FAST you go when you do all of that:eek:

east tx skier
09-07-2004, 05:10 PM
Nope. The little guy that lives in my head won't let me go that fast. He's got his finger on the chicken switch!

Robert Averyt
09-07-2004, 05:15 PM

Chicken Switch. I really like that. Do you mind if I use that expression.

09-07-2004, 05:15 PM
A few six packs and that switch should be gone, but your eyesight may be as well!

east tx skier
09-07-2004, 05:28 PM
Have at it. Certainly not my expression.

Yeah, beer and buoys. You just thought I was rotten on the course.

"To alcohol. The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."
-Homer J. Simpson

09-07-2004, 06:07 PM
So you made your 22 off last week ,congrats.It took me 3 ski seasons to move from no course to 22 off @ 34 mph.
You did it in a couples of months :toast: .Can't nail my 28 off so far but going skiing in 15 minutes and will give it a shot again

John B
09-07-2004, 08:19 PM
I made it to 22 off. I haven't made it yet.
That is this week goal. My best is 3.5 balls at 22 off.
I made it around ball 4 but did not make it back to the wake in time.Tomorrow will be the day.( I hope and dream ) :D

09-07-2004, 09:14 PM
I'm at the same.Make 22 off 3 out of 4 times but 28 seems very far.
Do you find that everything begins to go real fast?...I know i do,no time to think of too much after the gates...

09-07-2004, 10:43 PM
FAST AND LONG! :headbang:

east tx skier
09-08-2004, 10:03 AM
Sorry, forgot to mention that it depends on the ski. On the Maherajah GS Longboard, I run at 75 on (150 ft) @ 40+ mph.

09-08-2004, 11:07 AM
I can consistantly do [email protected] off at 32-34mph....

15 off isn't much easier than 22 & the wake is much better for me at 22 - so I usually ski 22.

Although - it's amazing how the wake disappears when you're aiming for a ball :D

09-08-2004, 08:32 PM
Hey Doug...PUMP up you taters and lean and pull! You spend big $ for perfect ski, boat, etc. LEAN, PULL, QUIT BEING A WUSS!

east tx skier
09-08-2004, 11:08 PM
Brian, shouldn't you be changing a diaper or something. ;)

09-08-2004, 11:27 PM
LMAO. What goes around comes around:uglyhamme

09-09-2004, 09:06 PM
Doug, won't be long and you'll be shooting me emails and asking me how to do it. I heard MarkP is writing a book in his spare time: changing poopy diapers for dummies with MasterCrafts. :D

east tx skier
09-10-2004, 11:44 AM
MarkP must look like the keyboard player for the Edgar Winter Group. Typing with one hand, changing diapers with his feet, and writing a book with the other hand.

09-10-2004, 12:08 PM
Yeah, Doug, Brian sounds a little testy, like he may be needing a date! :banana:

east tx skier
09-10-2004, 12:09 PM
Man needs to get behind the boat.

09-10-2004, 01:22 PM
PB: [email protected] 15off I really really want into that 22off before the weather cools off but cannot shake the 5 ball monster!! (yes I am too old for 36!)

John B
09-10-2004, 01:52 PM
Just did my 22-off 34-mph full pass :woohoo: New PB 2 at 28-off 34-mph :D Monday I going back to 15-off 32-mph and finish paying my dues. Dues are make opener at 15-off 32 mph two of them (back to back) then 15-off 34 mph two of them.(back to back) then 22-off 34 mph. You have to earn the right to shorten the rope and I don't think I have earn it yet. :(
Next week goal is finish paying my dues at 15-off and not ski at that length till I'm in a tournament. :eek:

east tx skier
09-10-2004, 02:36 PM
Congrats, John!

09-13-2004, 06:06 AM
Congrats... That's a tough area... wish I could consistantly get 28off.... 34mph is darn fast. Not much time for mistakes :eek: