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LJN
08-06-2013, 12:58 AM
I have really enjoyed reading through all of the posts and gained quite a bit of knowledge & motivation (it is needed with the 100deg.+ days we have had recently) to keep slowly working on a 2000 Maristar 210 VRS I picked up from a neighbor last month. The boat made the long journey (2 houses down) on 7/2; exactly 13 days before my daughter was born. Needless to say the wife was less than enthused. I thought it would be a good idea to go ahead & start my own thread to help chronicle the work I am doing(and because I am sleep deprived & forget more than is coming into my head at the moment) as well as elicit suggestions about things I should or shouldn’t be doing (please interject with both).This boat has had a rather hard life in primarily salt water & being stored outside (occasionally with a cover). It has a leaking transmission (http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=55683) along with a bit of corrosion and rust on the motor, but it still started right up when I turned the key. I have removed the entire interior and spent a bit of time with the buffer & 3M buffing compound as well as a cleaner wax & then a non-carnuba based wax. I am pretty happy with the results for now, but will probably re-approach the finish with finesse-it & a fleet wax this winter. I will also start to get quotes for redoing the interior during the slower winter months. I have now also decided to pull the entire running gear (motor & trans) so that I can clean, inspect, & fix anything needed while not being cramped in the engine compartment. Here are a few poor pictures that I have taken over the course of the work.

As it came home:
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/boat.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/boat.jpg.html)
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/boat2.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/boat2.jpg.html)

Motor & Trans:
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/motor.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/motor.jpg.html)
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/trans2.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/trans2.jpg.html)

Swim platform refinished (washed, sanded, teak oil):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/swimdeck.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/swimdeck.jpg.html)

Break for having the little one (Evelyn):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/Evelyn.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/Evelyn.jpg.html)

After 2 passes with 3m buffing compound:
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/afterbuffing.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/afterbuffing.jpg.html)
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/afterbuff.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/afterbuff.jpg.html)

After cleaner wax (looks better, but not 100%):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/aftercleaner.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/aftercleaner.jpg.html)

Playing with speaker options (my trim rings to fit 6.5" speakers look really bad & I'm thinking about putting 2 8" subs up front for a little more fill.... not sure though... any suggestions?):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/subinfront-1.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/subinfront-1.jpg.html)

The beginnings of my motor stand... (should be pulling on Thursday or Friday):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/motorrack.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/motorrack.jpg.html)

That should be enough fornow. Any suggestions; please let me know!

Thanks,
Luke

FrankSchwab
08-06-2013, 01:04 AM
Looks identical to mine. Let me know if I can help out.

Aric'sX15
08-06-2013, 01:12 AM
to help us all out, give us the name and address of the previous owner.... haha

JMLVMI
08-06-2013, 01:22 AM
Congrats on the daughter, she's beautiful.

The boat...not so much 8p Hope you got it for a steal! The buffing looks good and the boat doesn't seem beyond repair, just a lot of elbow grease at boxes from skidim ahead of you. Best of luck!

LJN
08-06-2013, 10:34 AM
Looks identical to mine. Let me know if I can help out.
Thank you; I may have to take you up on the offer
to help us all out, give us the name and address of the previous owner.... haha
To chastise them for abusing the boat.... Please do!
Congrats on the daughter, she's beautiful.

The boat...not so much 8p Hope you got it for a steal! The buffing looks good and the boat doesn't seem beyond repair, just a lot of elbow grease at boxes from skidim ahead of you. Best of luck!
Thank you very much! She is a trip, changing & learning every day.
I picked the boat up for $2,000. So I should be ok on keeping the cost reasonable. Believe me, the list has already started!

Thanks,
Luke

hig
08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
Very nice project!!! I've been going thru my Maristar I bought this spring and my one big piece of advice for you is label, bag and take pics of EVERYTHING that you take apart. I've done a pretty good job recording things with mine but I could have taking more pics, the nice thing with a digital camera are pics are free but for reference they are priceless!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming!!

jsturvey
08-06-2013, 05:47 PM
Great platform to start with! Going to be a nice boat when you are done. Keep at it and it will all be worth it when it's finished. Don't be afraid to take the baby out when it's done either. Had my son out at 8 weeks old; now 2 year later, he is a boating addict. Good luck with the build. Congrats on the baby!

LJN
08-06-2013, 07:41 PM
Very nice project!!! I've been going thru my Maristar I bought this spring and my one big piece of advice for you is label, bag and take pics of EVERYTHING that you take apart. I've done a pretty good job recording things with mine but I could have taking more pics, the nice thing with a digital camera are pics are free but for reference they are priceless!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming!!

Thank you hig, I have followed your build since joining TT. I appreciate your insight & detail; it has helped greatly already. Yes, the wife has already "asked" a few times for her sandwich bags back.... she just shook her head when I handed her one full of bolts. She should be used to it by now, but... o-well. I have stepped up my game with the pictures, it is just hard to stop & snap pictures when you get into the zone while working.

Great platform to start with! Going to be a nice boat when you are done. Keep at it and it will all be worth it when it's finished. Don't be afraid to take the baby out when it's done either. Had my son out at 8 weeks old; now 2 year later, he is a boating addict. Good luck with the build. Congrats on the baby!

Thank you, that’s what I keep telling myself when faced with another stuck bolt!
I grew up on a trimaran down in St. Croix as well as playing around on skiffs & old aluminum V-bottoms in Galveston bay, so I want the kids to have some of the same experiences I hold onto (other than breaking down in my old 14’ V & waiting for an hour or so for someone to pass by & tow us in..). To have the connection and respect of the water at an early age is important.

Luke

LJN
08-09-2013, 08:52 AM
Had a chance to work a bit yesterday.

Here is picture of the motor almost ready to go:
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/motorreadytopull.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/motorreadytopull.jpg.html)

Testing out the member usage limits at the yacht club... (a few people stoped & watched, but didn't say anything)
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/liftingmotor.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/liftingmotor.jpg.html)

Its new home for a while:
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/motoronstand.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/motoronstand.jpg.html)

The fun begins! I had to cut all the manifold bolts off, and when I pulled the plugs there was light rust on 4 of them so.... i going to go ahead and have it freshened up while its out.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/cutboltheads.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/cutboltheads.jpg.html)

A quick picture outside with the wife & kids. While the buff isn't perfect, it will do till it's up and running again.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/afterwax.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/afterwax.jpg.html)

jsturvey
08-09-2013, 11:53 AM
That's a clever engine stand you built. I like how the engine sits on the stand / motor mounts the same way it would sit inside the boat on the stringers. Nice! Going for a total rebuild?

LJN
08-09-2013, 10:36 PM
That's a clever engine stand you built. I like how the engine sits on the stand / motor mounts the same way it would sit inside the boat on the stringers. Nice! Going for a total rebuild?

Thank you, I makes working on it pretty easy as everything is accessable. Yes, it is going to go for a full rebuild. I also found a few other concerns today.

Does anyone know where to find these motor mounts?

Thanks,
Luke

Greenster
08-09-2013, 10:39 PM
It looks great. Just a heads up. I have the same boat and my rub rail leaks. If you are doing that much work on it, you might as well redo the rub rail.

46Chief
08-10-2013, 01:20 AM
Very nice project!!! I've been going thru my Maristar I bought this spring and my one big piece of advice for you is label, bag and take pics of EVERYTHING that you take apart. I've done a pretty good job recording things with mine but I could have taking more pics, the nice thing with a digital camera are pics are free but for reference they are priceless!!

Good luck and keep the pics coming!!


This, and make sure you shoot several more angles of things you are pulling apart. Especially wiring, I have too many pics i can see all the red wires but not the color of the stripe.

Nice to see that finish come to life.

LJN
08-10-2013, 01:12 PM
It looks great. Just a heads up. I have the same boat and my rub rail leaks. If you are doing that much work on it, you might as well redo the rub rail.
Thanks for the heads up. Where does it leak at? & where did you buy the replacement?

This, and make sure you shoot several more angles of things you are pulling apart. Especially wiring, I have too many pics i can see all the red wires but not the color of the stripe.

Nice to see that finish come to life.


I have been taking quite a few pictures, but I think I may take the time to draw a complete diagram before I break it down any further.

Thanks,
Luke

LJN
08-12-2013, 11:43 AM
I haven’t had a whole lot of time to work on the motor, but here are a few mid-progress pictures.

I pulled the valve covers to find this…. (Remember that old Muppet song… “One of these things is not like the others”??):
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/colapsedlifter.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/colapsedlifter.jpg.html)

I have also been trying to clean all the grime & corrosion away from around the transmission coupling allen-head bolts. They have been soaking in penetrating oil for a few days; hopefully they will come out without stripping. Otherwise I was thinking about welding a bolt to the head of each one & see if that works. Any other ideas?
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/coupling.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/coupling.jpg.html)

I decided to hit the case with a wire-wheel to take off the peeling paint & corrosion.
Starting to look a bit better.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/cleaningtrans.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/cleaningtrans.jpg.html)

LJN
08-18-2013, 11:22 PM
I have found the amount of rusted bolts I have had to deal with on this is a pain, but it is to be expected with an unmaintained saltwater boat. The trans flange gave me the most trouble with stripped out allen head bolts. They finally came out with 5 days of soaking in penetrating oil, heat, & EZ-outs.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/transflangeoff.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/transflangeoff.jpg.html)

I finally picked up a blasting cabinet, as everything will be blasted & painted or powder coated before reassembly.

Which is better for a saltwater environment?

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/blastingcabinet.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/blastingcabinet.jpg.html)

The other times I have spent on odds & ends cleaning the bilge, interior, and other little parts here & there.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv7/Nelsonlt1/interior.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/Nelsonlt1/media/interior.jpg.html)

FrankSchwab
08-19-2013, 01:28 AM
Lot of work you've got into this. I'd love to be able to make suggestions, but saltwater is out of my league.

jsturvey
08-19-2013, 10:06 AM
Where do you plan on running...places like clear lake (which is half freshwater from what I remember), Galveston bay or somewhere else...just curious?

For a saltwater boat, a good coat of paint is good, powder coating is always better. Definitely need to keep a heat exchanger set up on the engine cooling system. I'd also add a freshwater flush kit before the raw water pump, and flush the engine after every use. A seawater strainer wouldn't be a bad idea either if you don't already have one. This may be a bit overkill, but if it was mine, I'd consider bonding (grounding) all metal components (rudder, strut, etc) together and installing sacrificials (zink anode) on the prop shaft and rudder. The key thing to remember, especially on a saltwater boat, is to stay on top of the maintenance, and take nothing for granted.

LJN
08-20-2013, 11:15 AM
I’ll be running out of Houston Yacht Club in Shoreacres (between Seabrook & La Porte) headed up the San Jacinto of into Clear Lake tributaries to do a little boarding. The boat will be cleaned & stored in the garage while not in use. Our plan is to move up to Austin area in the next 4-5 years (looking at Lakeway area, or maybe north side of the lake), depending on development, lake levels, & when I decide to change career paths. I really miss the fresh water!

I will be keeping the heat exchanger setup, & it already has a flush point (though it looks like it was never used….). My neighbor also has a powder coating set-up, so everything will be powder coated then if it is best.

I have been looking into the sacrificial anodes, is there one that can be added to the heat exchanger interior? I would think it would be beneficial inside the area with saltwater. Also you suggest bonding all parts together; how is this done? Any links to info on this?

I ride skis primarily in the ocean, so it seems like more time is spent cleaning & wrenching than actual riding!

Thanks for the tips!
Luke

jsturvey
08-21-2013, 01:37 AM
I'm not really sure if there is a sacrificial anode for the heat exchanger - my guess is it depends on who manufactured it. A good friend of mine has a full time salt water boat, and I'm trying to remember how the bonding system ran, but if you do use sacrificial anodes, everything metal needs to be bonded together, or else the zincs are useless. Basically, it's just a copper ground wire that runs from one of the rudder bolts, strut bolts, shaft log (if it's metal), and any other metal thru hull fitting that you may have and connect to the same post on the engine bell housing as the negative battery cable. As I said before, totally overkill, but helpful if the boat is going to be in salt water for an extended period of time. That and I am just paranoid about the corrosion that salt water can do.

Lakeway is nice, but lake Travis is way down right now. There is lake Austin in that area which is constant level. I live about a hour south of there on the NE corner of San Antonio and frequent Canyon Lake. Good luck on the future career endeavors.

The boat is going to be great! 12 years of dreaming and I finally got into mine 3 years ago, and I love it! You will to!

Joe

LJN
09-15-2013, 11:31 AM
Haven’t had a lot of extra time to work on the boat in last couple of weeks, but have been playing with the blasting cabinet a few minutes here & there.

Jsturvey, I actually found where the anode was supposed to be, but was all the way gone! That will be replaced after the tank comes back from the radiator shop from being tested. I imagine it is good as the antifreeze was very green & clean; surprisingly.

The next obstacle I am facing is the raw water pump is stuck on the pulley. I have tried wedging a chisel & blade between them & let them soak in penetrating oil for a week, but no luck yet. Anyone have any tricks to get this off?

I blasted a few of the brackets I have off already & had a friend down the street powder coat them with a stainless infused powder he hasn't used before. Best part is it was free.

Luke

jsturvey
09-15-2013, 05:22 PM
Have you considered maybe using a pneumatic air chisel on the water pump? The vibration from it might soften the bond between the 2. Which brings on another question being it the block still usable with that much corrosion on it? I don't envy you having to get all that stuff apart. A boat that was prior neglected in freshwater is bad enough, but when you add saltwater to the equation, the carnage is 5x worse. As expensive as these boats are (new), I just don't know how these owners can just let them rot away like that. Glad to see you are putting new life into one. :)