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hig
07-18-2013, 09:30 PM
I purchased an AC Delco water pump for a 92 Corvette from Ebay and when I compared it to the original one is seemed the same. After bolting it on I'm having clearance issues with the bolts and sleeves that hold the front thermostat housing on.

On this side of the water pump the bolt just fits, there is NO room for the sleeve:

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130718_202217_zps5afcdcc4.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130718_202217_zps5afcdcc4.jpg.html)

On the other side of the pump there is more room but it's tight:

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130718_202319_zpse813da84.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130718_202319_zpse813da84.jpg.html)

Has anyone run into this with a replacement water pump? Am I reassembling something wrong? I'm thinking of making a 1/2" thick spacer that I can countersink a cap screw and over from that tap a hole - basically trying to move the bolts up and out some.

Any advice? Unfortunately I already got rid of the old one to compare it to closer.

Thanks, Steve

mgs96ps
07-18-2013, 10:02 PM
Steve,

I just replaced my waterpump this summer and had no issues. My guess is that the pump is not seating properly on drive shaft gear.

billr
07-18-2013, 10:16 PM
I had to grind one of the brackets off a little, but I can't remember which one. Mine was a replacement from a Chevy dealer. It seems that the bracket was interfering with the extra hose fitting. My can't remember sh*t is acting up.

hig
07-19-2013, 07:41 AM
Here's a better pic with some notes:

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/WATERPUMP-2_zpsfb1401a3.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/WATERPUMP-2_zpsfb1401a3.jpg.html)


On the side pictured the bolt hits so there is no way to get the sleeve in there. Grinding will not help!!

The photo should say "THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THE SLEEVE"

Thanks, Steve

Jerseydave
07-19-2013, 07:52 AM
I've never changed my pump, but from your pictures it looks like you now need a thinner wall sleeve because the new pump casting is thicker. Try a good hardware store or machine shop, take the old sleeves with you and get ones that are 1/2 the thickness. Small pipe cut to length should do the trick I think.

mgs96ps
07-19-2013, 08:06 AM
I will not be with my boat until tonight where I can study my pump vs your pictures. Something does not look right to me as plate should slightly move independently from pump...(if I am remembering right). Tablerocker is the expert on this subject. Here is a couple pictures of mine for reference when I did the change in May.

mgs96ps
07-19-2013, 08:14 AM
It seems to me that your plate is upside down. Is there a chance that you positioned your lower T stat housing on the plate incorrectly?

Table Rocker
07-19-2013, 05:02 PM
I looked at mine and it is really close in there. I would pull the bolts, put the spacers over the bolts and see if they will thread up (taking care not to cross-thread). Also be careful when tightening, making sure it doesn't bind up too much.

Also, my plate has the dog ear taken out of it (as in mgs96ps's photos). I wonder why your plate is different.

hig
07-20-2013, 06:22 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I ended up having 2 - 1/2" diameter rods made up at work with threads on both sides and I also ground some of the aluminum away where it was hitting on the water pump.

Aluminum ground where the bolt was hitting (sorry, it's the shiny spot):

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_165944_zps3f8d7ad0.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_165944_zps3f8d7ad0.jpg.html)

Paint touched up and new 1/2" rods installed to replace the original 3/4" diameter sleeve

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_170830_zps5ecf9563.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_170830_zps5ecf9563.jpg.html)

Finished product, the one side still flares out a little bit from the 1/2" rod rubbing:

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_170927_zpsf7ed604d.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130719_170927_zpsf7ed604d.jpg.html)

Thanks again for all the replies and if some one thinks something is assembled wrong please let me know!! I purchased the boat with the motor out and unassembled so I'm not quite sure how it goes.

Steve

mgs96ps
07-21-2013, 08:24 AM
Did you figure out why you had clearance issues?

hig
07-21-2013, 08:59 AM
No, I'm assuming the new water pump was cast differently than the original. The pump aligns on those 2 pins and is held in place by the six bolts so I know the pump is in the correct place and it is tight to the block. There was a clearance issue even before I tried to put the thermostat bracket on, so I don't think that was my problem.

Thanks, Steve


Did you figure out why you had clearance issues?

jsturvey
07-31-2013, 01:02 AM
Interesting. I have the same boat you do and I used a pump for a 95 Corvette. No clearance issues on the pump or water manifold, but I did plug an extra heater hose output that was on the replacement pump.

nrojay
07-31-2013, 05:53 PM
Jsturvey
do you have a picture of yours with the plugged port?

jsturvey
08-02-2013, 01:11 PM
Jsturvey
do you have a picture of yours with the plugged port?

Here you go! Obviously I painted it red just to be different. The additional plugged port is the one on the lower left side.

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag145/jsturvey/85b8bc88-89ae-497e-8680-40981f76ec72_zpsb0e02379.jpg?t=1375463361

hig
08-02-2013, 07:56 PM
Interesting. I have the same boat you do and I used a pump for a 95 Corvette. No clearance issues on the pump or water manifold, but I did plug an extra heater hose output that was on the replacement pump.

I replaced mine with a pump from a 92 Corvette based on this thread (http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=54060).

Steve

hig
08-02-2013, 08:01 PM
Jsturvey
do you have a picture of yours with the plugged port?

This is how I plugged mine, I had a plug made at work but I like those caps that jstruvey used. I only had the one to plug not two.

http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/hig69/98%20Mastercraft/20130731_194549_zps3c501ace.jpg (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/hig69/media/98%20Mastercraft/20130731_194549_zps3c501ace.jpg.html)

Steve

jsturvey
08-02-2013, 10:05 PM
This is how I plugged mine, I had a plug made at work but I like those caps that jstruvey used. I only had the one to plug not two.

Steve

I bought the plugs at O'Reilly Auto Parts. They come in a box of assorted sizes for about $6, and 2 of each size. Used the largest size in the box (3/4") for both outlets.

Joe