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kenps190
06-29-2013, 08:19 PM
Hit a submerged tree today, wife was driving and didn't see the temp gauge needle reading over 220 degrees. I was skiing, By the time I got back in the boat the damage was already done.
The tree broke the water intake and clogged with debris restricting almost all of the water flow into the engine. It also did fiberglass damage on the stern. The engine got hot enough to warp the exhaust tips and lost both flappers.

Just got home with a new inlet but not sure if it is worth installing to hook up the fake lake.:mad:

My guess it's new block time.

mikeg205
06-29-2013, 08:24 PM
Sorry to read.... :(

JimN
06-29-2013, 08:26 PM
Hit a submerged tree today, wife was driving and didn't see the temp gauge needle reading over 220 degrees. I was skiing, By the time I got back in the boat the damage was already done.
The tree broke the water intake and clogged with debris restricting almost all of the water flow into the engine. It also did fiberglass damage on the stern. The engine got hot enough to warp the exhaust tips and lost both flappers.

Just got home with a new inlet but not sure if it is worth installing to hook up the fake lake.:mad:

My guess it's new block time.

Call your insurance agent.

There's no guarantee that it's all toast. Since it will require some exhaust parts anyway, make a list of what definitely needs replacing and start with the obvious. Test the compression but run it with a better water supply than a Fake A Lake will provide, especially if your water supply's volume isn't higher than what the raw water pump draws.

Ryan
06-29-2013, 09:07 PM
Yikes!

Jerseydave
06-29-2013, 11:40 PM
Call your insurance agent.

There's no guarantee that it's all toast. Since it will require some exhaust parts anyway, make a list of what definitely needs replacing and start with the obvious. Test the compression but run it with a better water supply than a Fake A Lake will provide, especially if your water supply's volume isn't higher than what the raw water pump draws.

^I agree!

Put your intake hose into a bucket and run the engine that way making sure the bucket is always full of water. You may get lucky since your engine is a cast iron.

Lumbergh
06-30-2013, 12:11 AM
Bummer, sorry to read that.

Hope it works out for you.

hondaprlud
06-30-2013, 12:20 AM
Sorry to hear

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kenps190
06-30-2013, 09:16 AM
^I agree!

Put your intake hose into a bucket and run the engine that way making sure the bucket is always full of water. You may get lucky since your engine is a cast iron.

Thanks guys, I'm going to try this today. Still waiting for my insurance guy to call me back.
Hopefully it won't be as bad as I think.

kenps190
07-03-2013, 12:10 AM
Spoke to my claims adjuster today. Have appointment at a dealer for the engine on Monday after the 4th. Trying to decide if I have the dealer do the fiberglass repair. The adjuster highly suggested a shop in Tulsa for the glass repair that specializes in boat and RV fiberglass repair.

What do you guys think?

88 PS190
07-03-2013, 12:23 AM
I'd have the dealer take a look first - my guess engine isn't toast - but who knows, most boat engines are run somewhat too cold most of the time, figure that most 350 small block chevies in cars run 190-210 as standard range.

Biggest issue with this in boats is that the open loop cooling system will boil at the same temp as water on the stove, the antifreeze with a pressure cap in a truck will keep the boil down.

So if the coolant boiled out in the heads, and particularly in aluminum heads - that can give you some issues, but then again... depends.

I've seen "boat" specialty guys screw up hulls, guy on our lake had an MC with a repair after a skeg strike - boat never skied properly again. They basically made a step in the hull.

etduc
07-03-2013, 12:14 PM
Spoke to my claims adjuster today. Have appointment at a dealer for the engine on Monday after the 4th. Trying to decide if I have the dealer do the fiberglass repair. The adjuster highly suggested a shop in Tulsa for the glass repair that specializes in boat and RV fiberglass repair.

What do you guys think?

Most retail boat shops, farm-out fiberglass repair.

Fixing the glass isn't that hard, matching existing gelcoat is.

Not that far of a drive from OKC to Tulsa. Tulsa kinda cool. Sooner (pun intended) you get the boat to the 'glassser, sooner it will get into work schedule. Probably looking at a 2 week turn around, once work is started.

Water inlet is very close to underwater gear, recommend checking strut/shaft,etc.

Sorry for your pain.

OHpage21
07-03-2013, 06:21 PM
Im just curious after reading this thread...

Your wife was driving and hit a submerged tree and did hull and intake damage while you were skiing behind the boat. This damage clogged the intake starving the engine of water causing it to overheat.


So, she hit the tree, heard the impact... and just kept going?

kenps190
07-03-2013, 06:59 PM
you a lawyer?? ;) Here is a better play by play:

No, I was driving, I hit the log, tree or what ever. We stopped, I got in the water and felt around on the prop to see if I could feel any obvious damage. Keep in mind the bump did not feel very hard.
I got back in the drivers seat, ran it for a couple of minutes and things seemed fine. Shut her down, floated a bit and just hung out ate a sandwhich. Looked and saw no water was coming in, did not feel prop damage so I made the assumption, we are good. Obviously, hind sight is a bit clearer.
That is when I jumped in and skied. When I got back in the boat, I smelled something, glanced at the temp gauge and panic set in. It wasnt until I put it on the trailer that I saw the inlet was damaged. When I was on the water, I assumed the water pump failed.

I don't have a over temp alarm on the boat or it doesn't work....will probably put one in after this.
My wife is an excellent driver but the differance between us is I always watch the gauges...I guess that is why I said she was driving when we over heated.

Soooo now you knowwww the rest of the story.

Hope that fills in your gaps, wasn't really in the mood for all the details when I wrote my post





Im just curious after reading this thread...

Your wife was driving and hit a submerged tree and did hull and intake damage while you were skiing behind the boat. This damage clogged the intake starving the engine of water causing it to overheat.


So, she hit the tree, heard the impact... and just kept going?

ultrark2004
07-05-2013, 08:58 PM
if you haven"t done any mods to your engine 351 fords have cast iron heads. the motors are pretty bullet proof

Indyxc
07-06-2013, 12:24 AM
Cast iron engines are a tank. 220 isn't that hot. You might be pleasantly suprised.

kenps190
07-09-2013, 08:00 AM
Just dropped my boat off yesterday at the dealer to get an estimate for repair. My plan is mechanical at the dealer and then to a place in Tulsa for the glass work. (Thanks TTU for the help there)

I know I'm a bit OCD but apparently the guy at the dealership thought he was going to "help" me drop the trailer. He stepped over pulled the chains off the truck and literally tossed them over the tongue of the trailer.....I'm sure most people do that but not the ones who the spent hours sandblasting, painting and restoring! What made it even worse is he gave me that......Wow, she is really clean........"for an old boat".
Just got the fingers crossed for a quick recovery!

cwarndahl
07-12-2013, 07:40 PM
Sorry too hear that. Glad you are both okay.

charrison327
07-12-2013, 07:56 PM
good luck and hopefully you will be back on the water soon

curtish
07-18-2013, 04:25 AM
Update?

kenps190
07-18-2013, 07:45 AM
Update?

Well, got the estimate for repair. Compression test said long block.
Marine adjuster was at the shop on Monday for final review for insurance.
Waiting for the go ahead from my insurance company. The dealer said once I release them 2-3 weeks.
Hope to get something going this week. I'll be in Asia for the next week and a half so hopefully back in the water shortly after I get back.

gr82bgreen
07-18-2013, 01:03 PM
Now would be a great time for a gt 40 head upgrade.

kenps190
07-23-2013, 07:30 PM
Well, just got the call from insurance and I released the dealer to start the work!:woohoo:
Maybe I'll salvage some of the season

kenps190
07-29-2013, 05:41 PM
Well, just got the call from insurance and I released the dealer to start the work!:woohoo:
Maybe I'll salvage some of the season

Carpet protection in and the dealer is scheduled to pull engine tomorrow, then off the the rebuilder....not where I would like to be but at least getting they are started.

If there is any good I guess a fresh engine is it. I had 817 hours on it.

Engine rebuild, prop recondition, complete new exhaust, service transmission, then glass work.

kenps190
09-13-2013, 02:11 PM
Still no Boat!
From the time I dropped the boat off the mechanic told me he would have it done "in a couple of weeks". I have gone in for updates pretty often, and I always heard "couple of weeks". Finally lost my cool last week, so I get a call yesterday........the new update has shifted to "definately this week or next week"............isn't that the same answer as before!:mad: