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Dynamite Spike
06-24-2013, 02:36 PM
I'm planning on having all the upholstery on my 1996 Prostar 205 redone at the end of the season. I'd like to have Viper do the work but don't plan on towing the boat 6 hours to Tennessee. Therefore I would remove all the seating, pads, engine cover etc. myself and have the parts shipped to Viper. My question is, has anyone done this? What size box would I need and where would I get one?

nickespi
06-24-2013, 02:47 PM
Talk with 02ProstarSammyD. He did this.

Cloaked
06-24-2013, 03:04 PM
I'm planning on having all the upholstery on my 1996 Prostar 205 redone at the end of the season. I'd like to have Viper do the work but don't plan on towing the boat 6 hours to Tennessee. Therefore I would remove all the seating, pads, engine cover etc. myself and have the parts shipped to Viper. My question is, has anyone done this? What size box would I need and where would I get one?I'll tell you what I was told by Karl the Viper upholstery man. I too offered up to drive my interior components to Maryville (about 3/4 hour away). He said he'd rather have the boat to see how the seats etc fit and if they need tweaking when installed.

Jackson also told me had had several people send their stuff and he made no qualms about it.

$$ straight from the horses' mouths...at Viper

Don't get in a hurry. They are slow as Christmas, as is to a 5 year old waiting on opening the presents.



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Dynamite Spike
06-24-2013, 03:21 PM
Thanks for the fast replies. I was thinking that they might prefer to have the boat to make sure everything fit right. I guess I'll talk to 02ProstarSammyD and see how his experience was...then I'll call Viper direct.
Does anyone know of a good upholstery shop in Alabama?

BrianM
06-24-2013, 06:13 PM
Only 6 hours? Just drive it there and know the work is done as good as it can be done.

Dynamite Spike
06-24-2013, 10:42 PM
It's not the time that worries me....I'm concerned about my old truck not making the distance! :-)

76S&S
06-25-2013, 10:15 AM
Thanks for the fast replies. I was thinking that they might prefer to have the boat to make sure everything fit right. I guess I'll talk to 02ProstarSammyD and see how his experience was...then I'll call Viper direct.
Does anyone know of a good upholstery shop in Alabama?

Nope, that's the very reason that I took the trip to Viper. My boat is on Lake Tuscaloosa if you would like to see their work in person before making the trip. I will be there this Friday through the 7th or 8th.

drschemel
06-25-2013, 10:25 AM
I shipped the upholstery for my Tristar to them last Winter. In my case, the motor box and the side panels were the biggest parts and made the shipping about $300 each way. The crate was 4' x 3' x 8' and I had to rig an extension to let the side panels hang out a little. I decided to go with a rigid box on a palate base so I wouldn't have to worry about shipping damage. If you wanted to go a little cheaper, you could just wrap everything in plastic, put it on a palate and band it down.
There wasn't any problem installing them on my boat, everything fit perfectly.

Dynamite Spike
06-25-2013, 02:26 PM
@76S&S - PM sent

76S&S
06-26-2013, 03:33 PM
@ Dynamite - PM returned

Dynamite Spike
06-26-2013, 03:56 PM
@ Dynamite - PM returned

Thanks 76S&S! Will you be on the lake this weekend? I'll text you to arrange a place/time to meet. :)

76S&S
06-26-2013, 04:43 PM
I will, but I will be working on installing my new lift. You're welcome to drop by as the boat will be in the water.

Traxx822
06-26-2013, 04:54 PM
I just had my interior done. I went locally. I would swear the local guy I chose did as good if not better job than Viper.

I will tell you this, and it was already expressed by another TT member in this thread, is Viper will be able to give you a good product, but without the boat they cannot guarantee that you won't have wrinkles once installed.

My guy had to restretch the bow corners on my boat 3 times. After install on the boat there was a wrinkle. He had to remove and do it again to make it right. (not by my direction)

My advise is find a local guy to do your work for you and make him uphold the quality.

Check mine out here

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=929638&postcount=36

CruisinGA
06-26-2013, 04:54 PM
When you take your boat to viper, does it sit outside?

Cloaked
06-26-2013, 05:39 PM
When you take your boat to viper, does it sit outside?Typically no, He has a large building. It will just sit there for a long long time...

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76S&S
06-28-2013, 10:33 AM
Typically no, He has a large building. It will just sit there for a long long time...

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That all depends on the time of year that you take it to them. I dropped my boat off in March (later than I had wanted to) and had it back five weeks later. I don't consider that too bad given the time of year. During this time they were basically shut down a week for a boat show.

sheckski
06-28-2013, 10:54 AM
I shipped my 205v interior to Viper. Full pictures including shipping crate on my interior threads. Came out great. No fit issues. Saved some cash v local but more importantly got the vinyl and quality of work I wanted.

CruisinGA
06-28-2013, 11:03 AM
Maryville is just a pretty 2 hr mountain drive from our lake house, so I would probably take the whole boat. Only problem is the trailer has bad brakes and 12 year old Goodyear Marathons! It only travels less than a mile from storage to boat ramp 2x a year.

Do they do carpet too?

nickespi
06-28-2013, 12:00 PM
Yep, they did my carpet. We were going to do SeaDek, but he recommended against it because how hot it would get in comparison.

76S&S
06-28-2013, 12:28 PM
Maryville is just a pretty 2 hr mountain drive from our lake house, so I would probably take the whole boat. Only problem is the trailer has bad brakes and 12 year old Goodyear Marathons! It only travels less than a mile from storage to boat ramp 2x a year.

Do they do carpet too?

I wound up buying tires for a seperate trip. For a two hour drive I wouldn't consider anyone else but Viper.

They did my carpet as well.

CC2MC
06-28-2013, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the fast replies. I was thinking that they might prefer to have the boat to make sure everything fit right. I guess I'll talk to 02ProstarSammyD and see how his experience was...then I'll call Viper direct.
Does anyone know of a good upholstery shop in Alabama?

Yes, there is a guy on Lake Martin. He actually owns a MC 240 and has it for sale. I have not had anything done for me, but from talking with others, he does good work. I spoke with him on Monday and asked him about getting my whole boat redone and he said between $3-4k, which is probably similar to Viper. I have seen Viper's work and the amount of MC he does on a regular basis, so I would not hesitate to drive a little further to get a big job done, however, I do understand your need to find someone local. I would give the guy a call and see what he says. Depending on where in AL you are, that may be a better place for you. I am assuming you are south of Montgomery or thereabouts given the distance from Viper.

Pushwater Marine Upholstery
415 Dead Timbers Rd
Dadeville, AL 36853
256-675-0194
www.PushwaterMarine.com

Dynamite Spike
06-28-2013, 02:49 PM
Thanks CC2MC, I'll definately consider Pushwater. It's certainly closer than Maryville. I really think I will just remove all the parts and take them to Viper in my truck though. Nothings going to happen until the off-season so I have a while to decide.
@Sheckski: I checked out your thread. Wow, that was a big box! What did that cost to ship???

02ProstarSammyD
07-02-2013, 09:56 AM
Thanks for the fast replies. I was thinking that they might prefer to have the boat to make sure everything fit right. I guess I'll talk to 02ProstarSammyD and see how his experience was...then I'll call Viper direct.
Does anyone know of a good upholstery shop in Alabama?

Hey sorry I missed this. I usually stalk upholstery. I did not send all my panels to viper. I was in a similar situation that you are. I am about 6 hours from viper and weighed my options. I decided to do the interior myself as far as the demo/reinstall went. I was quoted somewhere around 1000 bucks (dont quote me my memory sucks) to send them everything and reinstall. When I coupled that with gas money and the p.i.t.a to drive up there I bought a 29 dollar pneumatic stapler, 40 bucks in SS staples, a 30 dollar steamer and went to town.

If you are curious about the process please feel free to hit me up and I can walk you through it. It is not a hard process but is time consuming. I'm a tinkerer and a love to learn new things so it was an easy choice for me. I mean adding 1500 bucks to a 2400 dollar order made it easy too. I think viper does extremely good work but I can't tell the difference in my install vs anyone elses. In fact mine came out far superior to some local small piece work I had done.

The only things I had to send viper were my rear hatches because the skins did not match up between the 2 due to a crappy previous job being done. I boxed them up for like 40 bucks and sent them off.

Another member did send the whole deal to viper and when I talked to him he said he had around 400 bucks in shipping + a free crate.

PLUS if you do it yourself you get to gut your boat and clean EVERY cubby hole. I rented a steam cleaner and literally steam cleaned every nook and cranny.

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s521/williamburell/user36164_pic4904_1359852942_zpsf8c67cf0.jpg
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s521/williamburell/user36164_pic4905_1359852942_zpsa9a0a538.jpg
Finished product
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s521/williamburell/photo3_zpsca0769fe.jpg
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s521/williamburell/HouseCreek-20130512-00330_zps9341c1bb.jpg
http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s521/williamburell/photo2_zps771f1b8e.jpg

Dynamite Spike
07-02-2013, 07:22 PM
Thanks for the info! I guess when the seasons over i'll give them a call and discuss the cost of installing the skins...then make up my mind.
Did you replace any of the foam? What tools did you use to get the old staples out?

02ProstarSammyD
07-03-2013, 10:39 AM
hanks for the info! I guess when the seasons over i'll give them a call and discuss the cost of installing the skins...then make up my mind.
Did you replace any of the foam? What tools did you use to get the old staples out?
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I had to replace one piece of foam and that was b/c whoever reupholstered before put some chit in it so it was completely a not normal issue. The foam should be in decent shape and if not you can buy it at your local sewing store in diff thickness, strength etc. Again should not be an issue.

As for the old staples they are a pain in the butt but its just time consuming. I didn't want to send the guys at viper a bunch of vinyl with staples in it.

You'll learn alot from just pulling the staples and disassembling the skins. You get a good bit of insight on where and how to staple.

Again if you decide to take this on talk to me about it. There are a ton of lil tricks to get it done fast and right that you won't read anywhere. No sense in being like me and not learning them until I was half way through
I used a nice precision small flatblade. It makes the process fly compared to using pliers etc. You literally just pop an edge under and pull. They just fly out. Think me and the girl removed all the staples in like 1-2 hours after the skins were pulled off.

Ryan
07-03-2013, 12:33 PM
Go to Uship.com and pay someone to haul it for you. Compare the cost of Uship with 2 round trips.

Call ahead and secure a slot in their project/production planning. They can always run into snags with other boats. Viper did my boat in 3 weeks, including a closure for the 4th of July. Would have been 2 weeks or less without the holiday, delay on getting some vinyl in stock and on the embroidery. Not bad for the middle of the summer.

For those who experienced slow process, did you coordinate with their que or just set the date to drop off?

Shane28037
07-22-2013, 12:09 AM
I removed all the interior pieces from my 87 PS 190 and made the 4 hour trip from Lake Norman to Viper Customs. Everything fit in my Freestar van with the rear seats removed. Transportation cost me two tanks of gas for the two round-trips and I got to meet Jim and Karl and go over details for the work. Jim told me up front it would be 5-6 weeks. I just put the interior back in the boat today with no issues.

Ryan
07-22-2013, 06:26 PM
I removed all the interior pieces from my 87 PS 190 and made the 4 hour trip from Lake Norman to Viper Customs. Everything fit in my Freestar van with the rear seats removed. Transportation cost me two tanks of gas for the two round-trips and I got to meet Jim and Karl and go over details for the work. Jim told me up front it would be 5-6 weeks. I just put the interior back in the boat today with no issues.

Lets see some pics!

Shane28037
07-24-2013, 05:16 PM
Lets see some pics!

Pics coming soon, waiting on speakers/grills for combing/side panels. Developing a mild case of that MCOCD thing people keep referring to.

Patsfan
07-29-2013, 11:35 PM
Take the hit and get the boat too Tn. You can be assured the fit and finish will be dead on. If your waiting till winter also check into Infiniti Fabrications/Leading Edge. Did a great job on my 87 Platinum PS
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