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tex
06-16-2013, 11:15 AM
Happy Father's Day to all the Dad's out there. Now be a good dad and take your kids to the lake!

2RLAKE
06-16-2013, 11:41 AM
Happy Father's Day everyone

Wish I could go to the lake ... I'm 4500 miles away!

TxsRiverRat
06-16-2013, 04:09 PM
it'd be nice just to see or hear from your kid... been close to 2 years now since i did...

Rockman
06-16-2013, 05:42 PM
Was not out on the boat today but had a chance to have my helpers get the gear ready for next weekend...

Livi with her slalom ski and JD (Thee Deck Hand) with the clean fenders...:D

tex
06-17-2013, 12:17 AM
it'd be nice just to see or hear from your kid... been close to 2 years now since i did...

Make something happen!

Jerseydave
06-17-2013, 07:45 AM
Make something happen!

I agree. Life is too short. I wish that I spent more time with my dad before cancer took him away from us.
TRR, I don't know your situation but I hope you can move forward and put problems behind you.

Traxx822
06-17-2013, 08:52 AM
it'd be nice just to see or hear from your kid... been close to 2 years now since i did...

My father died of cancer in 09. It may have been what I needed to finally grow up. But it was the hardest lesson to learn. The lesson: life is short. He died at 49. Hr was my best pal. We talked almost everyday.

Tx, you make the effort. I can tell you first hand that at first your son probably thought it was easy for him to avoid you. Now it's embarrassing and he can't break the spell. You need to try. Try again. And then keep trying. It's your duty as his father. No matter who is wrong. He may die. You may die.

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TxsRiverRat
06-17-2013, 11:12 AM
My father died of cancer in 09. It may have been what I needed to finally grow up. But it was the hardest lesson to learn. The lesson: life is short. He died at 49. Hr was my best pal. We talked almost everyday.

Tx, you make the effort. I can tell you first hand that at first your son probably thought it was easy for him to avoid you. Now it's embarrassing and he can't break the spell. You need to try. Try again. And then keep trying. It's your duty as his father. No matter who is wrong. He may die. You may die.

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I agree. Life is too short. I wish that I spent more time with my dad before cancer took him away from us.
TRR, I don't know your situation but I hope you can move forward and put problems behind you.

Make something happen!


Read up on parental alienation. Courts are biased against fathers (they still think it's 1950). Add those two together, and you will either lose 100% of the time or you’ll spend your entire life and bank account fighting for it. And for what? Your own kid acting like a little b*tch towards you? No thanks, she’s rapidly becoming her mother, a life support system for a c.

I made the efforts, believe me, Tex / Kyle should know out of anyone on here that I did.

At some point, you have to live your life looking forward through the windshield rather than the rear view mirror. Cut your losses, pay the monthly babysitting bill and move on in your life. There is more to this, but as she may be reading along with us silently, I will refrain from elaborating.

If you want an almost perfect synopsis on my situation, read points #1, 2, 6, 11, 13, 16, 17, 19... Then you might start to understand why I will always lose.

http://www.innocentdads.org/alienator.htm

Traxx822
06-17-2013, 11:54 AM
Read up on parental alienation. Courts are biased against fathers (they still think it's 1950). Add those two together, and you will either lose 100% of the time or you’ll spend your entire life and bank account fighting for it. And for what? Your own kid acting like a little b*tch towards you? No thanks, she’s rapidly becoming her mother, a life support system for a c.

I made the efforts, believe me, Tex / Kyle should know out of anyone on here that I did.

At some point, you have to live your life looking forward through the windshield rather than the rear view mirror. Cut your losses, pay the monthly babysitting bill and move on in your life. There is more to this, but as she may be reading along with us silently, I will refrain from elaborating.

If you want an almost perfect synopsis on my situation, read points #1, 2, 6, 11, 13, 16, 17, 19... Then you might start to understand why I will always lose.

http://www.innocentdads.org/alienator.htm

Man I feel like I'm in your same boat with my mother. I have siblings much younger. And for a long time I helped financially to my mother etc etc. When the money train stopped the problems started. And my mother started using some of these tactics and things I read in this article with my younger siblings.

I understand your pain. I just think any amount of pain is worth the effort to at least try to keep communications going. Even if it's one sided. Eventually, they will realize that they have only seen one side. And yours might be greener

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LYNRDSKYNRD
06-17-2013, 12:01 PM
I was at the lake with my boys yesterday and took them out for some 7am wakeboarding sets. We went in for lunch and even found some good water mid afternoon, before heading home. It was a good day.

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h2oskifreak
06-18-2013, 01:16 AM
Man I feel like I'm in your same boat with my mother. I have siblings much younger. And for a long time I helped financially to my mother etc etc. When the money train stopped the problems started. And my mother started using some of these tactics and things I read in this article with my younger siblings.

I understand your pain. I just think any amount of pain is worth the effort to at least try to keep communications going. Even if it's one sided. Eventually, they will realize that they have only seen one side. And yours might be greener

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Didn't hear or see my son yesterday either. It hurts so bad when you love them and have done everything and all you get back is hate and rage. I don't want to give up but I have been through so much with him. I tell him I will always be here for him and I get nothing in return. His mother was a mess (moved recently), grandma is "harboring him", and he won't even see me. There is absolutely no reason, just because I have the most basic of expectations and evidently he has been running my ex's home for the last 5 years. Read the link about alienation and sounds like what I have been through the last 5 years, only now my ex. created a monster and left.

Traxx822
06-18-2013, 07:50 AM
Didn't hear or see my son yesterday either. It hurts so bad when you love them and have done everything and all you get back is hate and rage. I don't want to give up but I have been through so much with him. I tell him I will always be here for him and I get nothing in return. His mother was a mess (moved recently), grandma is "harboring him", and he won't even see me. There is absolutely no reason, just because I have the most basic of expectations and evidently he has been running my ex's home for the last 5 years. Read the link about alienation and sounds like what I have been through the last 5 years, only now my ex. created a monster and left.

Like I was saying to TRR.

I know it hurts. I hated my father from about 7-15 years old. My mother played games with him. Would tell us he was coming to get us on random days and he was none the wiser. He never showed and she would use that. Or how when I turned 13 and the week after I had my first gf I said I hated him and never wanted to visit again. I could tell you a hundred stories about the things my mother did to my father. But god and myself have forgiven her.

Now when it was my birthday, Christmas, Easter whatever day a holiday. He always called. Sometimes I'd say thanks for calling and hang up on him. Or just flat out hang up.

Now he always made an effort. Finally at 15 years old I realized my mother was a snake and couldn't be fully trusted. I needed help in a big way. And guess who answered the phone, took me in, loved me unconditionally, and never mentioned word one bad about my mother.

I had the best friend a man could ever have from 15-26 years old. In comparison I've been dating the same woman for 7 years. And I only knew my own father for 11 years until he died very horrible death to cancer.

So all I have to say. Is even though you need and I understand the need to move on with your lives, and keep looking through the front windshield and not back. You need to make the effort to at least let them know you are there. And one day an opportunity might present itself to where they need you. And they call.


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