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Drake2785
06-14-2013, 11:13 PM
Anyone know what it's gonna cost me to have the stuffing replaced on a 2005 MasterCraft X2 leaking pretty good this summer. Just curious thanks for the info in any

CantRepeat
06-15-2013, 03:09 AM
You could order the rope from SKI DIM and do it yourself for about $20.

http://www.skidim.com/products.asp?dept=1118

Unless 05s came with the dripless system then you have to pull the shaft to change that seal but still a pretty easy job.

Drake2785
06-15-2013, 11:42 AM
Yes the shaft has to be pulled dealer said 1 hr labor and $155 for the part to fix ??????

mikeg205
06-15-2013, 11:46 AM
save yourself the $155... and do it your self... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UvyF-NRooQ

GoneBoatN
06-15-2013, 04:49 PM
removed double post

GoneBoatN
06-15-2013, 04:50 PM
You could order the rope from SKI DIM and do it yourself for about $20.

http://www.skidim.com/products.asp?dept=1118

Unless 05s came with the dripless system then you have to pull the shaft to change that seal but still a pretty easy job.

I think easy is a relative term on this one. With the V-drive you are likely to have very little room between the shaft log, the transmission and the general surrounding area. For myself I would work on it myself and enjoy the process. However, I think for many, they would find the $??.?? per hour of labor much worth it. I would think perhaps 2-3 hours and quite a few explicatives for a non-experienced boat mechanic.

You may want to ask what the labor rate and the max time to do the job.

mikeg205
06-15-2013, 05:16 PM
I think easy is a relative term on this one. With the V-drive you are likely to have very little room between the shaft log, the transmission and the general surrounding area. For myself I would work on it myself and enjoy the process. However, I think for many, they would find the $??.?? per hour of labor much worth it. I would think perhaps 2-3 hours and quite a few explicatives for a non-experienced boat mechanic.

You may want to ask what the labor rate and the max time to do the job.

Do it with a friend share some beers afters...

88 PS190
06-15-2013, 05:32 PM
Do it with a friend share some beers afters...

This is one of those jobs that witnesses are not always a good thing. Lots of contortions performed.

Drake2785
06-15-2013, 06:45 PM
Haha well I've done almost everything to the boat myself. This was one thing I have never done. I prob can do it just the first time is a little intimidating I guess once I tore into I believe I would have to call myself a chicken for doubting myself I guess. I plan on getting the stuff and with a older friend he says he can show me how it's done the first time. Thanks for the feedback guys

mikeg205
06-15-2013, 06:52 PM
Haha well I've done almost everything to the boat myself. This was one thing I have never done. I prob can do it just the first time is a little intimidating I guess once I tore into I believe I would have to call myself a chicken for doubting myself I guess. I plan on getting the stuff and with a older friend he says he can show me how it's done the first time. Thanks for the feedback guys

it will be fun.. ;)

tnewton
06-15-2013, 07:19 PM
I have the v-drive and it cost me $140 last year. We tried to do it ourselves but didn't go so well. Tim

Drake2785
06-15-2013, 10:32 PM
Tim just killed it I may just pay to have it done almost had my confidence built up but thanks Tim for the honesty lol

CantRepeat
06-16-2013, 08:24 AM
Have we established which seal type you have?

Is it a big brass nut or is it a dripless system?

CantRepeat
06-16-2013, 08:28 AM
save yourself the $155... and do it your self... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UvyF-NRooQ


Was this system ever OEM on MCs? I thought all the dripless systems in MCs were the OJ type with the graphite seal. I could be wrong about it as I've not been in a bunch of different models and years.

Drake2785
06-16-2013, 09:07 AM
Mine is the drip less system. The shaft has to be pulled as far as I can tell from the motor compartment where the shaft comes through the hull I have about 8 inches before it goes into the transmission. That eight inches 4 of has a blue piece of hose on the shaft with hose clamps on each end. I can see before it goes into the transmission but feels like it has a plastic sleeve or something just before it goes in. Maybe that will help us out here I'm gonna take some pictures today and post them so everyone can see.

Drake2785
06-16-2013, 09:15 AM
Was this system ever OEM on MCs? I thought all the dripless systems in MCs were the OJ type with the graphite seal. I could be wrong about it as I've not been in a bunch of different models and years.
The YouTube video posted
is similar to what I have on my boat already just minus the long shaft mine is a lot shorter but everything else looks like this

CantRepeat
06-16-2013, 09:48 AM
The YouTube video posted
is similar to what I have on my boat already just minus the long shaft mine is a lot shorter but everything else looks like this

Then you probably have this type. It's an OJ Prop dripless system.

http://www.mindspring.com/~bwmitchell/Boat%20Pics/Nautique/Aug%2015%203.jpg


You'd probably have to pull the prop so you could pull the shaft out far enough to replace the seal.

Drake2785
06-16-2013, 10:56 AM
Yes that's it

GoneBoatN
06-16-2013, 11:16 AM
Haha well I've done almost everything to the boat myself. This was one thing I have never done. I prob can do it just the first time is a little intimidating I guess once I tore into I believe I would have to call myself a chicken for doubting myself I guess. I plan on getting the stuff and with a older friend he says he can show me how it's done the first time. Thanks for the feedback guys

Good to hear. Not rocket science, just difficult given the location/position. Also, don't forget to protect the dripless unit from the splines on the shaft as you slide it over the shaft. From other posts that I read you do this by putting some (electrical) tape over the section of the shaft that has the splines. It appears that if you don't do this, you take the chance of damaging the seal.

CantRepeat
06-17-2013, 06:36 AM
Yes that's it

http://www.ojprops.com/

You can purchase a new seal straight from OJ.

mastercraft1995
06-18-2013, 04:18 PM
direct drive fairly easy, v-drive not so much.

Drake2785
06-21-2013, 06:01 PM
Well found out today that the water was not coming from the shaft it was coming from a busted check valve. Simple fix thanks for all the info though guys will have it replaced tomorrow morning.

mikeg205
06-21-2013, 06:36 PM
always love a simple solution... where was check valve.

Drake2785
06-21-2013, 07:07 PM
Underneath the engine. I let the boat sit a few days so was completely dry and when we put in today I emptied the back so I could watch it and sure enough it was pouring in like a waterfall so I just shut main valve off and auto bilge never came on all day which was nice for a change lol

Drake2785
06-22-2013, 09:57 AM
Here is the check valve 97280

thatsmrmastercraft
06-22-2013, 10:52 AM
Here is the check valve 97280
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=97280&d=1371909415


Looks like it froze. Maybe a little duct tape will seal it up. :rolleyes:

Drake2785
06-22-2013, 12:27 PM
Looks like it froze. Maybe a little duct tape will seal it up. :rolleyes:

Already put a new one on and replaced it. Just as FYI for everyone lowes has the same check valve that MasterCraft offers for $8 compared to $38 from MC. Don't really know how it froze when it was winterized and in a heated shop all winter but oh well it's fixed now

mikeg205
06-22-2013, 02:33 PM
Looks like it froze. Maybe a little duct tape will seal it up. :rolleyes:

lmao....

mikeg205
06-22-2013, 02:33 PM
Already put a new one on and replaced it. Just as FYI for everyone lowes has the same check valve that MasterCraft offers for $8 compared to $38 from MC. Don't really know how it froze when it was winterized and in a heated shop all winter but oh well it's fixed now

maybe it was random galactic neutron bombardment....;););)

Drake2785
06-22-2013, 03:44 PM
May have just been those random earthquakes we have haha just glad it's fixed and its not the shaft.

thatsmrmastercraft
06-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Already put a new one on and replaced it. Just as FYI for everyone lowes has the same check valve that MasterCraft offers for $8 compared to $38 from MC. Don't really know how it froze when it was winterized and in a heated shop all winter but oh well it's fixed now

Nice $30 savings there. Would be tough to free winterized AND in a heated shop.