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Mastercraft13
06-12-2013, 11:55 AM
Almost at the end of my 25 hour break in period. Manual states to do engine and tranny fluid/filter. Looking through the tranny manual it does not state a p/n or anything for the filter. Any ideas where I can find a filter for my tranny? Manual states this is the ZF 63IV transmission, also calls for ATF any recommendations for both engine and tranny? Was thinking of Mobil1. Any ideas would be appreciated!

CantRepeat
06-12-2013, 12:34 PM
I was told by a very reputable parts person that you do not need to change the transmission filter unless there is an issue with it. Just suck out the old oil and replace it annually.

Mastercraft13
06-12-2013, 01:03 PM
I was told by a very reputable parts person that you do not need to change the transmission filter unless there is an issue with it. Just suck out the old oil and replace it annually.

My dealer said the same thing, but manual says differently. My thought process is that the filter is there for a reason and since this is the break in period this would be the time period you would get the most material due to the gears seating themselves.

ncsone
06-12-2013, 01:06 PM
Filter is a metal mesh screen and only needs to be cleaned, not replaced. Since yours is new, it might be good just to take a look at it for anything significant; otherwise, clean and go.

CantRepeat
06-12-2013, 01:42 PM
Filter is a metal mesh screen and only needs to be cleaned, not replaced. Since yours is new, it might be good just to take a look at it for anything significant; otherwise, clean and go.


Yeah, it's a $150 metal filter that doesn't need to be changed unless it is damaged in some way.

Coolerking
06-12-2013, 02:52 PM
I asked my maintainer the same question and he said: they always remove the transmission oil and inspect it. If it is clean then put new in and leave the filter. He also said that you dont have to change the oil every year but unless you pull the oil out you dont get any early warnings of problems so a catch 22. if there is rubbish in the oil then he would fix the fault and change the filter.

onewheat
06-12-2013, 03:08 PM
ZF Marine Transmission Oil Filter OEM - link (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZF-Marine-Transmission-Oil-Filter-OEM-New-Fits-45A-63-63A-63IV-80A-80IV-85A-85IV/151034561603?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D11%26meid%3D8330582690961600255%26pid%3D100 011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D350786730494%26)

I am in the same place. I just did my oil change and was wondering about the trans filter. I have heard some people say they are metal mesh, but the pics I see for this filter in all of my searches don't appear that way. The part numbers I have found are 3312199031 or 463772. They are apparently the same part - one is a newer number, although I have seen conflicting reports about which one is newer. $50 is the cheapest I have seen and this is link has free shipping. I have seen this same part number up to $100 with $14.95 shipping or some BS like that.

I was also tossing around the options of which tranny fluid to replace it with, but I haven't seen anything pointing me one way or the other. I was leaning towards Mobil 1 as well though.

I also read that you can get more oil out of the transmission by sucking it out through the filter hole vs. using the dipstick hole. I don't know if that is true or not - it was on the internet, so it must be true, right?

megapea
06-13-2013, 11:07 AM
I replace my transmission fluid every Fall when I winterize the boat. I use a vacuum pump ( called "LiquiVac") that I got at Home Depot in the mower section, and it does a great job. My only complaint is that it only holds 3 quarts, and my tranny holds just over 4 quarts, so you have to empty into a larger container half way thru. I suck the fluid out through the hole under the filter, not the dipstick hole. I have never changed my filter. It is metal, and I just clean it good with brake cleaner, dry it well, and re-install. I changed over last fall from ATF to 15W40 after reading the bulletin from Indmar, but I haven't had it out on the water yet this year to post any opinions on the changeover.

blackhawk
10-02-2013, 10:00 PM
I have a 2006 X15 with the ZF 63IV transmission. The pictures of the 3312199031 filter looks like it has a paper element behind the metal housing on the outside. Has anyone bought one of these yet? Is there a paper element?

My transmission has a plug that faces to the port side that is right under the filter. Megapea says that he has to suck the oil out through this hole. I would think that the oil would drain freely out this hole???

MattsCraft
10-03-2013, 09:57 AM
The trans filter is metal, only needs to be cleaned. (Gas or carb cleaner) Once per year is sufficient. Indmar went to 15W 40 sometime around 2008 I think to help dampen the low rpm singing. My '09 had 15W40 from day one, changed it annually, 380 hours, never changed the trans filter only cleaned. My '09 still had the low rpm singing, my '13 does not.

Ilmor has gone back to ATF, not sure why.