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agarabaghi
06-11-2013, 03:16 PM
well i didnt want to spend $179 on the jabsco or $250 on the johnson pump so im going this route...

http://www.wake2moto.com/?p=detail&pid=2&cat_id=

$86 shipped... ill keep yalll posted...

JRW160
06-11-2013, 03:24 PM
Ignition protected? Isn't that why the jabsco and Johnsons are so expensive

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CantRepeat
06-11-2013, 03:26 PM
Good luck with it, but at 300 gallons per hour that pump would take almost 40 minutes to fill my surf sac. :(

It's not even half of what the other 2 can do.

88 PS190
06-11-2013, 04:00 PM
Yaaa.....

http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt-marine-utility-water-pump-94639.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_11850.jpg

88 PS190
06-11-2013, 04:01 PM
Point being if you want to try it go right ahead - but it is way cheaper to go to HF than a rebranded equivalent - and considering that you can see that it is even the same picture (see the haze from the red clip on the right)

MLA
06-11-2013, 04:20 PM
1) those are not ignition protected
2) just because a DPDT switch can be used to reverse the motor, doesnt make it a reversible pump. Contact Jabsco or Johnson and ask them. They make impeller pumps that are only intended to move water in one direction.

Id give it one season of regular use. And I agree with 88 PS190, it looks like the photo-shop'd out the handle and battery clips and shop'd in their logo.

agarabaghi
06-11-2013, 04:47 PM
dang you guys are def right. It is a rebrand of a harbor freight pump!

Hmm not being ignition proected might be a big of a problem as i planned on install it in the same factory location as the x1 pumps are (back transom behind the panel). Probably not safe to have something that isnt ignition protected.

agarabaghi
06-11-2013, 04:49 PM
I guess ill be returning it =(...

Whats the cheapest direct replacement pump? Ive seen the jabsco for $179 on wakemakers...

76S&S
06-11-2013, 06:12 PM
I guess ill be returning it =(...

Whats the cheapest direct replacement pump? Ive seen the jabsco for $179 on wakemakers...

That's a pretty good price on the jabsco. I was thinking that it usually cost more than the Johnson.

CantRepeat
06-12-2013, 08:59 AM
Wow not only is it rebranded it's not even 300 GPH. :mad::mad::mad:

88 PS190
06-12-2013, 11:46 AM
Wow not only is it rebranded it's not even 300 GPH. :mad::mad::mad:

It is - HF lists it as 300 gph with no head - the 260 is at a certain rise.

46Chief
06-12-2013, 12:31 PM
At 40.00 a pop you cold wire in 4 of them and have over 1000PGH for the price of one of the others.

CantRepeat
06-12-2013, 12:42 PM
At 40.00 a pop you cold wire in 4 of them and have over 1000PGH for the price of one of the others.

Yeah feed them with 4 thru hulls? That makes no sense at all. :confused::confused:

thamax
06-12-2013, 03:25 PM
i don't know where u been shopping ballast pumps but wakemakers and hodges marine have the best price all under $200 i went with the johnson pumps they seem to move water faster and always run super smooth good luck with harbor freight pumps i tried a house sump from them what a joke it ruined half of basement cause it failed wouldn't put much trust in cheap knock off pumps

http://www.hodgesmarine.com/Marine-Plumbing-Sanitation-Heads-toilets-pumps-s/114.htm
http://www.wakemakers.com/wakeboard-ballast-pumps

Rossterman
06-12-2013, 03:50 PM
i don't know where u been shopping ballast pumps but wakemakers and hodges marine have the best price all under $200 i went with the johnson pumps they seem to move water faster and always run super smooth good luck with harbor freight pumps i tried a house sump from them what a joke it ruined half of basement cause it failed wouldn't put much trust in cheap knock off pumps

http://www.hodgesmarine.com/Marine-Plumbing-Sanitation-Heads-toilets-pumps-s/114.htm
http://www.wakemakers.com/wakeboard-ballast-pumps

I bought the Johnsons from Wakemakers as you indicated above and was the best price I found around the web at the time (although the hodges link has a fantastic price). Quality of these pumps is clear the minute you take them out of the box. They are actually made in Finland or Sweden rather than China like everything seems to be made nowadays. The Jabsco ballast puppies they sell are slightly higher priced but that is because they come with a wired switch- adding to the cost. Wakemakers site actually has a video comparing the two and says the Johnson is actually the more expensive pump - it just doesnt have the switches so costs less overall.

You wont go wrong selecting one of these but I would be very hesitant to run a non sparkproof ballast pump (Technically couldn't the insurance company deny the claim if they found the cause of a fire or explosion was related to the owner installing non service approved parts? I know not very likely and the safety risk to my family would the main reason to pass on the HF versions)

agarabaghi
06-17-2013, 09:50 AM
Got the pump and it is a peice of crap! haha

I will not be install it into my boat, unfortunately the company doesn't take returns either... not sure what kinda bs that is but oh well...

willg
06-17-2013, 10:42 PM
I found a really cheap internet price (on a somewhat sketchy site) for the jabsco with the switch (around $145 I think) printed it out and took it to west marine and they price matched it, so I didn't have to pay shipping.
I can't remember the site, I'll see if I can find it later.

88 PS190
06-17-2013, 11:52 PM
Got the pump and it is a peice of crap! haha

I will not be install it into my boat, unfortunately the company doesn't take returns either... not sure what kinda bs that is but oh well...

Oh well... Perhaps it can be utilized for something else? Like draining pooled water off tarps?

thamax
06-18-2013, 05:34 PM
harbor freight don't except much they are great for cheap tools but anything power tool or electrical is something else we had a one of there drill press catch on fire once so be careful