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Stefan
06-10-2013, 09:10 AM
As most of you 2012 owners know, changing of the ballast timers for piggy backing was not possible until now.
After about eight weeks working with MC, programming last week and a affirmative lake test last weekend I can tell you it's working now. I have two 1100lbs bags in rear and two 400lbs bags piggy backed in front(center) in my2012 X-15 and filling and emptying them with the original ballast pumps works just great.
The process basically consists of installing the needed software, connecting to the Master lenco module, updating it's firmware and changing it's ballast pump values afterwards.

So to use the MC marketing speak "Go down to your dealer and get some"!
Please keep in mind the needed Hardware (MC part# 500766 and 500767) are in somewhat of a short supply I guess...
I was thinking of doing a write up of the whole process, but unless you're willing to spend $500+ on the programming hardware yourself for basicly just one programming it's no use, your dealer should be able to get everything needed from MC.

KahunaCraft
06-10-2013, 10:45 PM
What were the pulse values you used?

Thanks again Stefan!

Stefan
06-11-2013, 02:38 AM
These were the original pulse counts, 130.000 on starbord/port and 65.000 on center.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/picture.php?albumid=839&pictureid=5368

As of now I'm using 290.000 on starboard/port (1100lbs that fit but dont fully expand) and 200.000 on center (for 2x400lbs that fit but don't fully expand). If you have a BIG and a thumbdrive you can edit your ballast to the single percent afterwards (95% in my case).

lentiman
01-26-2014, 03:17 PM
Hi Stefan, I don't have the touchscreen but do have everything else on my X2 (attitude plate, surf tabs). I'll call MC tomorrow and try to get my dealer too, but they're at our local boat show this week. I wonder if this would work for an X2. I don't think it would be that difficult to figure out how much to reduce the fill pulses as opposed to using the touch screen to reduce the total fill by % amounts. If this can work without the touchscreen and my dealer will do it then I'll be pretty happy.

jgaither
04-25-2017, 05:15 PM
Lentiman,

Did you ever get this working on your X2? the dealer is telling me that MC part# 500766 and 500767 don't exist and that I need to add separate pumps for the bags.

I'll spend the $500 for the programmers if I can get them.

lentiman
04-25-2017, 07:29 PM
Nope. This only works if you have a specific setup. I only had the v-dig/g-dig and switches so Stefan's solution would not work for me. I think Stefan has the B.I.G. I had to go the extra switches, new pumps, and separate plumbing route. I made a thread about my ballast install. Shoot me an email if you have the same setup as me and have questions. But basically I added a new thru-hull, swapped around all the hoses, added a set of relays and switches and 3 new pumps for new rear locker and bow bags. The setup works quite well. 2012 was the worst year for MC but my boat is tuned nicely.

jgaither
04-26-2017, 09:39 AM
what is a BIG. vs. the v-dig/g-dig?



Nope. This only works if you have a specific setup. I only had the v-dig/g-dig and switches so Stefan's solution would not work for me. I think Stefan has the B.I.G. I had to go the extra switches, new pumps, and separate plumbing route. I made a thread about my ballast install. Shoot me an email if you have the same setup as me and have questions. But basically I added a new thru-hull, swapped around all the hoses, added a set of relays and switches and 3 new pumps for new rear locker and bow bags. The setup works quite well. 2012 was the worst year for MC but my boat is tuned nicely.

lentiman
04-26-2017, 01:15 PM
Which type of gauges n' stuff do you have?

BIG: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjyvL_qwcLTAhVOxWMKHZL4DZoQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seabuddyonboats.com%2Fboats%2 Fmastercraft-ski-wakeboard-boat-big%2F&psig=AFQjCNFYRM8V768rQyXl77YcEFfZy7Pl6Q&ust=1493309577437275

g-dig: https://www.google.com/search?q=mastercraft+B.I.G.&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRvfDkwcLTAhUOzmMKHRbtD_oQ_AUICSgC&biw=1660&bih=870#tbm=isch&q=mastercraft+medallion+g-dig&imgrc=lPZmrzceTuSKoM:

or this: https://theskimonster.com/files/theskimonster/ckfinder/images/MasterCraft%20Xstar%20Touchscreen.jpg

jgaither
04-26-2017, 01:55 PM
So, I don't have a large screen between speedo and tach. But I do have a touchscreen on right side of the cluster. But it is different than with no buttons on sides. https://theskimonster.com/files/theskimonster/ckfinder/images/MasterCraft%20Xstar%20Touchscreen.jpg

The small LCD in speedo says I hav GDIG v1.03

So you think I won't be able to change the timers?

lentiman
04-26-2017, 02:55 PM
If you have the touchscreen you have the ability to change timers I believe.