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JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 12:46 PM
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/3844407828.html

2000 Prostar 195 - $14,900...10 calls on it, I had to offer more to be in the driver's seat.
233 Hours
Predator engine (probably standard trans but unverified)
Vinyl in great shape, only problem is back seat seams are splitting.
Trailer good, fender damage on left side (not visible). Extensive but should be reparable.
No speed control
Owner and dealer performed maintenance, seen his garage and good vibes there.

Pending a lake test later in the week. What say you, TT? Good price from what you can see? Thanks!

rodltg2
06-03-2013, 12:50 PM
I say yep

east tx skier
06-03-2013, 12:52 PM
Nice boat. Great slalom hull. Have heard that the open bow hardened the wake slightly, but not enough to be of concern. Price seems a bit high, particularly with repairs necessary on the rear seat and trailer and considering that it doesn't have speed control.

Still, good boat. So if you like the price and can handle the repairs, go for it.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 01:10 PM
Always appreciate an East TX Skier response :)

Given that it's boat selling season and I have strict requirements (mid-90s open bow), it's a limited market for me :rolleyes: PerfectPass can be a Christmas present for a winter install, along with the fender repair.

Is it possible to repair seams on that seat, or will it need to be reupholstered? The foam seems to be in fine shape and there's no sag in the bench.

jk13
06-03-2013, 01:20 PM
I had those same requirements when I bought my boat 5 years ago. That is a fair asking price for that boat. If you can get down to high 13s or 14K final price I think you will have done pretty well for yourself. Not as versatile as the 205 hull but should slalom better. I certainly looked at the few of these that were around when I bought.

As for the seams I'm afraid those years were bad for all boat manufacturers due to the vinyl suppliers. You would be better to replace skins rather than repair and have it start again in a different area.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 01:27 PM
I had those same requirements when I bought my boat 5 years ago. That is a fair asking price for that boat. If you can get down to high 13s or 14K final price I think you will have done pretty well for yourself. Not as versatile as the 205 hull but should slalom better. I certainly looked at the few of these that were around when I bought.

As for the seams I'm afraid those years were bad for all boat manufacturers due to the vinyl suppliers. You would be better to replace skins rather than repair and have it start again in a different area.

Thanks...a 205 w/ MC tower and 400 hours went for $18k here in less than 24 hours. The fever is strong :D

I'll check the forums; hoping there is something I can do short of reskinning to preserve that seat and foam for a few years before a reskin.

Lumbergh
06-03-2013, 01:35 PM
Nice looking boat. $15k seems to be a good price to me on that boat, looks to be in well kept condition and low hours. Open bow tow boats are always in demand.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 01:47 PM
Nice looking boat. $15k seems to be a good price to me on that boat, looks to be in well kept condition and low hours. Open bow tow boats are always in demand.

That's what I want to hear! Hopefully you won't need me to come in on Saturday...yeahhhhh :D

(Only Office Space joke I'll make, I promise!)

TxsRiverRat
06-03-2013, 03:19 PM
Is it possible to repair seams on that seat, or will it need to be reupholstered? The foam seems to be in fine shape and there's no sag in the bench.

All upholsterers I've talked to always say they wont repair seams

east tx skier
06-03-2013, 03:37 PM
All upholsterers I've talked to always say they wont repair seams

Same here. It usually points to rot.

east tx skier
06-03-2013, 03:39 PM
Always appreciate an East TX Skier response :)

Given that it's boat selling season and I have strict requirements (mid-90s open bow), it's a limited market for me :rolleyes: PerfectPass can be a Christmas present for a winter install, along with the fender repair.

Is it possible to repair seams on that seat, or will it need to be reupholstered? The foam seems to be in fine shape and there's no sag in the bench.

For a 90s open bow, there may not have been a better one for slalom. But, again, I haven't skied a 195. Solid motor. Low hours. Have fun!

mayo93prostar
06-03-2013, 03:42 PM
I think that is a reasonable price give the low hours, barefoot boom, bimini, and good shape mastercraft cover. I think the cover is $700+ to buy new. Trailer and teak seem in good shape too. I like the color scheme. Go for it and enjoy, given you like it.

JohnE
06-03-2013, 04:12 PM
Seems like a good price to me. Hope that isn't Hammer's boat.

JohnE
06-03-2013, 04:22 PM
I had those same requirements when I bought my boat 5 years ago. That is a fair asking price for that boat. If you can get down to high 13s or 14K final price I think you will have done pretty well for yourself. Not as versatile as the 205 hull but should slalom better. I certainly looked at the few of these that were around when I bought.



The 195 evolved from the '95 Prostar hull - as did the 2nd generation 205. I would think it may be close to as versatile. A little smaller.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 04:48 PM
Seems like a good price to me. Hope that isn't Hammer's boat.

He is right in my neck of the woods, but I believe he has a 2001 and the seller is not a member on TT. Looking forward to skiing with him sometime this year, so I hope he's not selling!

east tx skier
06-03-2013, 05:09 PM
The 195 evolved from the '95 Prostar hull - as did the 2nd generation 205. I would think it may be close to as versatile. A little smaller.

The 195 is the 95--97 190 hull. The 205 is an evolution of that hull. I think the 195 will throw a better slalom wake than the 96--2000 205 hull if the 95--97 190 is any indication. The question in my mind is how the open bow affects the weight distribution.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 05:12 PM
No matter what, it will be better than the I/Os I've been skiing behind my whole life!

east tx skier
06-03-2013, 05:14 PM
No matter what, it will be better than the I/Os I've been skiing behind my whole life!

It'll be a great boat. 95--97 190 hull is among the best.

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 08:49 PM
Put down a deposit tonight, sale pending the lake test on Wednesday! Excited!!!

JMLVMI
06-03-2013, 08:50 PM
And the boss (wife) loved it. I made the 195 out to be a sardine can compared to similar sized I/Os, but she didn't seem phased.

madcityskier
06-04-2013, 10:10 AM
It'll be very easy to dunk the bow with passengers up there, watch for rollers. Great boat.

east tx skier
06-04-2013, 11:14 AM
Put down a deposit tonight, sale pending the lake test on Wednesday! Excited!!!

Congrats.

Here's a checklist (http://www.tylerskiclub.com/usedboat.html) to take with you.

JMLVMI
06-04-2013, 11:20 AM
Congrats.

Here's a checklist (http://www.tylerskiclub.com/usedboat.html) to take with you.

Already have it printed out from the FAQ thread :D Thanks!

east tx skier
06-04-2013, 11:25 AM
Good deal. I used it when I bought my current boat. I would have forgotten to check a lot of things without it.

CC2MC
06-04-2013, 11:42 AM
That is a nice looking boat. Good luck with the test drive!

JohnE
06-05-2013, 12:08 AM
The 195 is the 95--97 190 hull. The 205 is an evolution of that hull. I think the 195 will throw a better slalom wake than the 96--2000 205 hull if the 95--97 190 is any indication. The question in my mind is how the open bow affects the weight distribution.

Kind of my point. The 195 'evolved' from the 95-97 190 hull when they cut the hole in the bow. The 205 was just a more in depth evolution. Not to be confused with the evolution hull.:D

JohnE
06-05-2013, 12:11 AM
And the boss (wife) loved it. I made the 195 out to be a sardine can compared to similar sized I/Os, but she didn't seem phased.

If you want the performance of an inboard, it doesn't much metter how much roomier an IO is. Also keep in mind that an X2 is a similare sized inboard and it has a ton of room. Just remember what is drawint you to an open bow DD ski boat.

JMLVMI
06-05-2013, 12:44 AM
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. The price is a little high (maybe a K), but this boat rides great and with only 234 hours, it should give us many years of faithful service!

I should finalize the purchase on Thursday, and I'll do an introductory post with many pictures :)

wheelerd
06-05-2013, 02:47 AM
I sold my 01 X5 last month for $17,700. It sold within two days of listing and I could have sold it a half dozen times over within the next few days as calls kept coming in. It was a great ski boat and good beginner wake boat. You'll enjoy yours. (i redid the upholstery on the rear seat, observer seat and bow seats. Same issue as yours.)