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CC2MC
05-23-2013, 10:25 AM
I have found a 2001 Prostar 205 VRS with the Indmar 310hp engine for $13k. However, it does have some reasons why it is priced this low. First it has no trailer, as it has been in dry storage for quite some time. Aside from being winterized and summarized every year, the boat has just been sitting in dry storage for at least two years according to the owner. I called the mechanic at the marina and he said he thought it was more like four years, but the boat does run great. I am a little concerned about the boat sitting for so long for fear that there may be things rotting away that should not be rotting yet. I am supposed to be getting some pics from the mechanic later today with some detail shots of a couple of, what he calls minor upholstery blemishes as well as other shots of the boat, including the engine hours. As I recall, 2001 was not a good year for their upholstery. The boat has a Monster tower, (unsure of which one) and bimini top but does not have PP. Not sure about tower speakers and ballast, but I am guessing it does not have it. The owner said it has normal wear and tear, but his normal may be totally different than my OCD normal. I guess the best thing about this boat is that it is a one owner and he has all the original documentation on it. Depending on how the pics look, I may go at least take a look at it this weekend.

Is there anything else on this particular boat that I should be concerned about, with the limited information given? I would really like to get into a v-drive boat but I am not sure if this kind of find has more negatives than positives. I will post pics as soon as I get them.

CC2MC
05-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Still no pics but I would love some opinions.

bturner2
05-24-2013, 07:09 AM
By the number of posts you have it looks like you've been around the block a bit so you should have a pretty good idea of what to look for in an inboard. This model has been around for a long time with different names (200v, X1, X2). Great hull for it's day and many still consider it to be one of the best MC hulls ever produced.

I believe you're correct on the vinyl so I'd pay attention to all the seams. I'd also start looking for a trailer (Lex at Rambo Marine seems to get a lot of used trailers) to see what that's going to do to your overall price. If you can't live with the interior you may want to call Viper Customs to see what he would charge to refresh yours for you. Once again looking to get a feel for what your "all in" cost is going to be.

Other thoughts.....

How many hours?
Any service history?
Any accidents, insurance claims, storm or water damage?
Any liens on the boat?
How does the boat run and steer?
How is the installation quality of the tower? Did they use backing plates for the legs?
What if any stereo is in the boat and what condition is it in?
If the boat has been sitting this long does it have a new battery? if not what condition is it in?
How's the gas? If it's been sitting that long I'd be concerned about it's condition.
If you want PP what will it cost to add it?
If you want ballast what will it cost to add a system?
What kind of cover(s) does it come with and what condition are they in?

With any older boat without a trailer especially one needing work I'm always looking for my total cost. There also seems to be some options that are not on this boat that you want that are a thousand bucks a crack to add. Doing some quick math this is what I'm thinking.....

Add PP - $1300
New interior - $4000
Trailer - $2000
Ballast system - $1200

That's $7500 with you doing the work (except on the interior) so you'd basically have about $21K into it to get it where you want it assuming all else is in good condition. Unless you like projects and plan to keep the boat forever sometimes it's better to find one already done and bite the bullet for the higher initial purchase price. That would be my .02 cents.....

CC2MC
05-26-2013, 12:28 AM
^^All fair questions and good things to consider.

I was finally able to take a look at the boat today. It looked great from 50' away and probably even 20' away. Upon further inspection, I think I would be wise to let this one go, although it may make a good project boat for someone. It does need a good cleaning, wet sanding and buffing out and that would make a world of difference, but then there is everything else. All service was done through the marina that stores the boat and the mechanic said it runs great, but after looking at the boat, I would have to see to believe. The vinyl was in okay condition and I could live with it through the summer, but I would replace it come winter time. The stickers could all use replacing and the stbd vent cover was broken. There was no ballast or bags present as I suspected. The tower was a Monster tower with two Monster quick release wakeboard racks and it did have speakers, although not nice ones. I did notice there were some spider cracks starting to develop around the tower feet, which probably meant it did not have backing plates. The stereo was a Sony, and looked fine, but I was unable to test it as the battery was dead, therefore I also couldn't get the engine hours. The interior speakers were Clarion and all looked to be busted. There was a little water sitting in the bilge, which I was unsure of bc it was supposed to be in "dry" storage. I don't think it comes with any cover of any sort. The prop was pretty dinged and dented up, which could lead to other possible issues. The front rub rail looks like a beaver got after it and then there is the hull and transom area. I am not sure what happened, but they do use a large fork lift to move the boats up and down and it looks like it could be damage from that. If it were not for the fiberglass damage, I think I could live with everything else, but that in itself shows me that they really do not or have not taken care of this boat.

I was really hoping I found one, but looks like the search continues.

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CruisinGA
05-26-2013, 07:56 AM
Looks like a good deal at $9k to me.

gsxrjtt
05-27-2013, 03:49 PM
cc2mc Just sent you a pm

CC2MC
05-31-2013, 11:23 AM
I just got an estimate back on the fiberglass work at $3-5k. That boat would almost have to be given away for me to justify, I think. I am still waiting to hear back from the mechanic on total hours.

ttu
05-31-2013, 11:28 AM
this one looks to be much cleaner. it is at marine world mastercraft in wichita, ks.

http://wichita.craigslist.org/boa/3792850484.html

Traxx822
05-31-2013, 11:31 AM
By the number of posts you have it looks like you've been around the block a bit so you should have a pretty good idea of what to look for in an inboard. This model has been around for a long time with different names (200v, X1, X2). Great hull for it's day and many still consider it to be one of the best MC hulls ever produced.



The 200V model is not the same as the 205v, x1, x2 models. Its wider and has integrated swim platform like the tristars.

Edit, actually, I'm not 100% sure on this as the 200vrs model did change in 98 from the 95-97 platform.

CC2MC
05-31-2013, 06:50 PM
this one looks to be much cleaner. it is at marine world mastercraft in wichita, ks.

http://wichita.craigslist.org/boa/3792850484.html

Thanks TTU! That is closer to what I am looking for, with the tower and PP. I wish it was closer to me. Is there anyone out that way that could take a look at it for me?

JRW160
05-31-2013, 08:50 PM
The 200V model is not the same as the 205v, x1, x2 models. Its wider and has integrated swim platform like the tristars.

Edit, actually, I'm not 100% sure on this as the 200vrs model did change in 98 from the 95-97 platform.

You are right. The 200vrs is a different hull. There was maristar 205vrs in 1999 only that had the 205v hull.

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ttu
05-31-2013, 08:55 PM
Thanks TTU! That is closer to what I am looking for, with the tower and PP. I wish it was closer to me. Is there anyone out that way that could take a look at it for me?

I have a cousin who can. he has a 89 prostar and marine world does all his work. trust me they are a good dealer and I didn't even buy my boat from them!

a good friend of mine who lives in salt lake city, ut came to Tulsa to buy a friends Moomba xlv and on his way back blew the turbo in his F250 in Wichita. they offered to keep his boat there while his truck was fixed. they even put his boat inside storage.

Traxx822
05-31-2013, 09:21 PM
You are right. The 200vrs is a different hull. There was maristar 205vrs in 1999 only that had the 205v hull.

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Thanks. Sorry to have thread jacked a little there. I've just always wondered where the 200 hull derived from or evolved to and that it is no 205. But that should be somewhere else.

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CC2MC
05-31-2013, 09:27 PM
I have a cousin who can. he has a 89 prostar and marine world does all his work. trust me they are a good dealer and I didn't even buy my boat from them!

a good friend of mine who lives in salt lake city, ut came to Tulsa to buy a friends Moomba xlv and on his way back blew the turbo in his F250 in Wichita. they offered to keep his boat there while his truck was fixed. they even put his boat inside storage.

I got to looking a little closer at the boat and it looks like that year or maybe just that Maristar model does not come with the L seating, which is what I prefer. It is hard to tell from the pics provided though. I will see if the dealer has any shots posted.

ttu
05-31-2013, 09:28 PM
I got to looking a little closer at the boat and it looks like that year or maybe just that Maristar model does not come with the L seating, which is what I prefer. It is hard to tell from the pics provided though. I will see if the dealer has any shots posted.

okay, just let me know.

CC2MC
05-31-2013, 09:33 PM
I saw the dealer does have it listed for $22,999 and the pics all have the cover on them. If that boat was a few hours closer, I think I may consider that one. Thanks for looking out, ttu.

Traxx822
05-31-2013, 09:53 PM
Are you dead set on this hull. Or just that price?

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Rossterman
05-31-2013, 10:14 PM
I got to looking a little closer at the boat and it looks like that year or maybe just that Maristar model does not come with the L seating, which is what I prefer. It is hard to tell from the pics provided though. I will see if the dealer has any shots posted.

All the 1999's didnt have the wrap around seating. That was a change in 2000,

CC2MC
06-01-2013, 12:55 PM
I am not dead set on anything. The price is nice, but I would ideally like to find a v-drive under $20k. Now is not the time of the year to be looking necessarily, but I am always on the lookout, so you just never know.

Rosterman, thanks for the info. Now I know what to look for. The only thing that concerns me about the 2000ish models is the upholstery.

Traxx822
06-01-2013, 01:26 PM
Sounds like you are looking for exactly what I was looking for. I wanted a V drive that could do it all. Nice surf, decent wake and decent slalom. When I bought it I was more into wakeboarding but as of lately we have been surfing more and more. anyways, I found an entry level Maristar that was rated to be pretty good as far as those sports were concerned. Now I didn't have $20k flat in my pocket so I bought a 95 200 vrs. It was listed at $10k and I swindled a little and got a good deal. Another $10k later I have 100% new interior, 100% crazy kick *** stereo all JL just like the new ones, NDT tower with bimini, snap on cover, new rub rail, boards, balast and more change for more upgrades to come like chartplotter with GPS and radar, perfect pass, underwater lights, and eventually plumbed in ballast. I know I might barely break even after $20k+ after its all said and done. But my boat is paid for. Its all brand new except for the engine with just over 550 hours. Its just as nice as any of the new boats, and any other MC owner that see's it appreciates its quality.

So I would say just find a 95-00 maristar for around $10k and make it yours. Schedule all your work for during the week. I had all my work done by others coordinated around the weekends.

I plan to keep my boat for a long time though. So it made more sense to me to build it the way I wanted than to buy something for $20k that isn't 100% upgraded and new.

CC2MC
06-01-2013, 02:51 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Traxx. I am always up for spending less, but just want to make sure I get the right thing for me. I have found a couple of mid 90s Maristars for a decent deal but I don't care for the built in swim platform. What year did that change?

Traxx822
06-01-2013, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the suggestion Traxx. I am always up for spending less, but just want to make sure I get the right thing for me. I have found a couple of mid 90s Maristars for a decent deal but I don't care for the built in swim platform. What year did that change?

No doubt. The swim platform is the number one thing I wish was different. However, for surfing it doesn't cut off the top of the wave like some of the other platforms do. Making most modify their platform anyways. So in hindsight I'm glad it is the way it is now. Also its not a tristar. So as soon as u get passed that it is a very roomy and capable 3 event boat. And the 225v is even bigger.

As far as what year it changed I think it was 98. My point wasn't to get my boat. My point was find something in that realm of price and add the things you want and make it yours. If you plan to keep it. I just, myself, couldn't justify a 2001 xstar, which was my original goal when I knew I wanted a vdrive MC, and have 12 year old everything when I found a better, bigger boat for half. And then made it all new everything. Not 12 year old speakers, vinyl, tower etc etc.

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Traxx822
06-01-2013, 03:43 PM
http://decatur.craigslist.org/boa/3731494639.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bod/3826756943.html

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/boa/3750369531.html

http://northmiss.craigslist.org/boa/3828346073.html

http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3796254660.html

http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3760539522.html

http://bham.craigslist.org/boa/3832794635.html

Here is some fruit for thought :cool:

CC2MC
06-01-2013, 09:31 PM
http://decatur.craigslist.org/boa/3731494639.html

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bod/3826756943.html

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/boa/3750369531.html

http://northmiss.craigslist.org/boa/3828346073.html

http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3796254660.html

http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3760539522.html

http://bham.craigslist.org/boa/3832794635.html

Here is some fruit for thought :cool:

Man, thanks for all those. Were you able to do a search and find them all without going into the different cities and looking? I really like the 230, but I think I am a little limited with the size of the boathouse. So that being said, I guess I am stuck at a 21' or maybe a 21.5' boat. I think the inside length of the boat house is 24' and the door is 9' wide x 7' tall.

I got what you were saying about making it your own. The trick there is finding a good enough deal to justify adding everything that I would want on the boat, which appears to be everything that you have added. In all honesty, I never even considered a MC before I rode in a friend's 205 like mine. I have always really liked MC but I did work for CC so I got a little partial to those. However, after learning more about the hulls offered by MC, I think they really did a better job getting into the wakeboard type of hull and seemed to offer a little more in the way of V-drives early on. There are really not all that many pre 2000 CC V-drive boats to be found. I really like my boat but just wish it was a little more versatile, ie surfable, but having more space would be my biggest thing. I may go all summer before I get another boat and that is fine. My friends tell me that I have an obsession with boats bc it always seems like I am looking at another boat. I went through three last year alone. I just enjoy looking.

SP Maristar
06-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Our 98 MariStar has the teak platform. Perhaps someone with a 97 will weigh in. Craigslist Helper (search for it) is nice for searching CL within a certain radius. This keeps you from having to search individual cities. I think it also returns Ebay results.

Traxx822
06-01-2013, 09:50 PM
I use searchtempest.com and use the dual windows view. I called on that 230. It sounds nice. Newer vinyl and all

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SP Maristar
06-01-2013, 11:44 PM
I use searchtempest.com and use the dual windows view. I called on that 230. It sounds nice. Newer vinyl and all

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Yes. Searchtempest. That's the one. My buddy once sold some Krauser bags for an old BMW Airhead to a guy on the east coast. We wondered how he ever found them. But then discovered searchtempest.

BWB-745-
06-02-2013, 11:34 AM
I use searchtempest.com and use the dual windows view. I called on that 230. It sounds nice. Newer vinyl and all

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I think that's HogWild's boat

BWB-745-
06-02-2013, 11:38 AM
http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3796254660.html

http://northmiss.craigslist.org/boa/3828346073.html

I've been looking and thinking hard on these two. I'm in the exact position as Traxx is/was in but I'm also looking at Sunsetters and SS/SAN along with Xstars but these Vdrive Maristars keep popping up at a lower price.


Can anyone tell what model that first link is?

Traxx822
06-02-2013, 11:52 AM
http://fayar.craigslist.org/boa/3796254660.html

http://northmiss.craigslist.org/boa/3828346073.html

I've been looking and thinking hard on these two. I'm in the exact position as Traxx is/was in but I'm also looking at Sunsetters and SS/SAN along with Xstars but these Vdrive Maristars keep popping up at a lower price.


Can anyone tell what model that first link is?

I was mistaken I called on the first link. Not the 230.

Also I think that red one is a 200v like mine. Might be a 225v

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BWB-745-
06-02-2013, 11:54 AM
I told myself I would keep saving and wait until the end of the season so prices would drop a little more, but that one just looks like an awesome deal.

Traxx822
06-02-2013, 04:02 PM
I told myself I would keep saving and wait until the end of the season so prices would drop a little more, but that one just looks like an awesome deal.

It says it has a new block with 400 hours on it that's good already has a tower with been any interior looks really nice it's definitely a 200 v. I would say 12 grand. It's a good deal. Comes with fat sacs, and newer stereo. I bought mine for 10k with none of that

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Cloaked
06-02-2013, 05:55 PM
I told myself I would keep saving and wait until the end of the season so prices would drop a little more, ...........Not a hard and fast rule of thumb that I have noticed over the course of years. If you get a decent deal,throw down the cash...

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Cloaked
06-02-2013, 05:58 PM
Other thoughts.....

How many hours?
Any service history?
Any accidents, insurance claims, storm or water damage?
Any liens on the boat?
How does the boat run and steer?
How is the installation quality of the tower? Did they use backing plates for the legs?
What if any stereo is in the boat and what condition is it in?
If the boat has been sitting this long does it have a new battery? if not what condition is it in?
How's the gas? If it's been sitting that long I'd be concerned about it's condition.
If you want PP what will it cost to add it?
If you want ballast what will it cost to add a system?
What kind of cover(s) does it come with and what condition are they in?

With any older boat without a trailer especially one needing work I'm always looking for my total cost. There also seems to be some options that are not on this boat that you want that are a thousand bucks a crack to add. Doing some quick math this is what I'm thinking.....

Add PP - $1300
New interior - $4000
Trailer - $2000
Ballast system - $1200

That's $7500 with you doing the work (except on the interior) so you'd basically have about $21K into it to get it where you want it assuming all else is in good condition. Unless you like projects and plan to keep the boat forever sometimes it's better to find one already done and bite the bullet for the higher initial purchase price. That would be my .02 cents.....+1
I'd offer up much less than $13k.

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Traxx822
06-02-2013, 06:30 PM
I got mine with ripped up seats and no stereo or tower etc etc. For 10k. Had every single piece of work done by a mechanic. Add everything I've had done + my wish list and ill be at $22k. I hopefully will break even.

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Hogwild
06-02-2013, 10:14 PM
I think that's HogWild's boat

Yeah that 230 is mine. Feel free to ask me questions if you have any? I'm an open book when it comes to mine.

CC2MC
06-03-2013, 10:13 AM
Yeah that 230 is mine. Feel free to ask me questions if you have any? I'm an open book when it comes to mine.

I see you have it hooked up to a 4Runner. Does it have the 6cyl or 8cyl and how does it do towing the 230? Why are you selling it?

Hogwild
06-03-2013, 10:45 AM
My 4runner is the V-8 version and it tows it reasonably well. That being said I wouldnt want to go cross country with the thing. Furthest tow so far has only been about 60 miles. As far as reason for selling, I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me upgrade but we are also looking for land to build on. So I may get out of boating for a year and then buy another MC. There is nothing wrong with the boat. In fact its running better than ever. I had it out for a spin again yesterday.

CC2MC
06-03-2013, 04:19 PM
My 4runner is the V-8 version and it tows it reasonably well. That being said I wouldn't want to go cross country with the thing. Furthest tow so far has only been about 60 miles. As far as reason for selling, I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me upgrade but we are also looking for land to build on. So I may get out of boating for a year and then buy another MC. There is nothing wrong with the boat. In fact its running better than ever. I had it out for a spin again yesterday.

The reason I ask is bc I have a 4Runner with the V8 and it tows my prostar 205 beautifully, but I would not want to go much larger, at least for a long haul. But I am really not towing it more than a couple times a year (85 miles each way), as it stays at my dad's boathouse which has a ramp right beside it.

Yours is a beautiful boat, but I think it is a little out of my price range for now and a little too large for my boathouse too. I only have 24' of interior length to work with, meaning I will probably have to stay with a boat smaller than 22', I think.

Hogwild
06-03-2013, 06:55 PM
I understand. If you only have 24 ft to work with the 230 would be an extremely hard fit if not impossible. I vamt remember its exact length including trailer. Well good luck in your search.


I do love my 4runner. 95k and counting.

CC2MC
06-05-2013, 06:41 PM
I understand. If you only have 24 ft to work with the 230 would be an extremely hard fit if not impossible. I vamt remember its exact length including trailer. Well good luck in your search.


I do love my 4runner. 95k and counting.

I believe I am at 95k and counting on my 4Runner as well. My only complaint with the 4Runner is that as my family grows, it seems to get smaller but we make due for now. If and when I get another dog, I may have to consider a larger vehicle. I have really enjoyed it for the past 6 years and plan to keep it for a while longer, especially with no payment every month.

Hogwild
06-05-2013, 11:43 PM
Yeah I was a little upset they made it bigger and discontinued the V-8. I need the horses and cant afford the sequoia or tundra.